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Old Posted Jun 15, 2018, 10:47 PM
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Here's a quick mockup of how Angel's Landing will look in the skyline from the south, I'll try and make a few more in the future!



Original photo taken by Logan Selinski: https://www.flickr.com/photos/133681...2/41458648194/
That view will be spectacular if this comes to fruition.
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Just the latest update on this project. I posted in the main DT thread as well.

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https://urbanize.la/post/dtlas-angel...t-loses-height



DTLA's Angels Landing Development Loses Height

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Angels Landing, the $1.2-billion development slated for the coveted Bunker Hill Y-1 parcel, is getting design tweaks, according to an initial study published today by the City of Los Angeles.

Angels Landing Partners - a team comprised of MacFarlane Partners, the Peebles Corporation, and Claridge Properties - won the development rights to the property at 4th and Hill Streets in 2017, beating out competing proposals from three other teams. When their project was officially submitted to the City of Los Angeles last year, it was imagined as a 1.26-million-square-foot development featuring 120 condominiums, 450 rental apartments, 480 hotel rooms, a charter school, and commercial space. Plans call for two buildings - towers of 88 and 24 stories - the larger of which would have stood approximately 1,020 feet in height.

Now, according to the project's initial study, Angels Landing Partners has changed its plans to include towers of 64 and 48 stories, rising to architectural peaks of 854 and 542 feet respectively. The programming within the two buildings would remain largely the same - plans now call for 180 for-sale condominiums, 261 market-rate and affordable rental units, two hotels with a combined total of 509 guest rooms, approximately 36,000 square feet of commercial space, and nearly 39,000 square feet of flex space that is likely to be used for an elementary school. Nearly 57,000 square square feet of public open space is also proposed in the form of a street-fronting plaza at 4th and Hill, and a connection to California Plaza at-grade with Grand Avenue to the west.

A diagram crafted by Handel Architects, which is designing Angels Landing, shows that the two hotels - an SLS and a Mondrian - would be located in separate towers, with residential uses to occupy the floors above. Retail would be located at ground level along Hill Street, and at-grade with California Plaza.

The project, which will abut an entrance to the Pershing Square subway station, would include up to 750 parking spaces in as many as seven subterranean levels.

Project construction is anticipated to be completed in 2028.

The Angels Landing development is one of several high-rise projects planned near the Pershing Square Metro station, including a 53-story tower at 5th and Hill Streets, and a proposed 33-story building at the opposite corner of 4th and Hill. Across the street from Pershing Square itself, construction is nearing completion for the Park Fifth development, which is highlighted by a 24-story tower
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Old Posted Mar 30, 2019, 12:12 AM
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The height cut is unfortunate but still a really awesome addition, can't wait to see some renderings.

The two other planned ~300 meter buildings seem to have some potential so not such a loss
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This is still huge for LA, don't care much about the height reduction honestly.

There are a lot of great projects to look forward too as well. While it'll never be NYC or Chicago it's nice to see LA stepping up its game
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Could be so much better with a little more thought and refinement. For the tall tower, finish the taper to the top, for the shorter tower.. start over. It really looks like shit. Additionally, the base and street level implementation needs a major revamp and the integration of Angels flight needs to be completely redone. Lastly, the materials must be high end or else this will look cheap and dated the day it opens.
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Relative to the surroundings in the rendering, this tower is quite complex. The surrounding towers are somewhat bland, but Angels Landing really stands out.
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Looks just stunning. But where the place is? If it won't bother you, can you just name a postcode area according https://worldpostalcode.com/united-s.../san-francisco ? I'll find the exact place. Want to have a look at what's near using google maps.
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Looks just stunning. But where the place is? If it won't bother you, can you just name a postcode area according https://worldpostalcode.com/united-s.../san-francisco ? I'll find the exact place. Want to have a look at what's near using google maps.
399 S Hill St, Los Angeles, CA 90013
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I am so sick of hearing this excuse. Not attacking you Spocket, but we keep hearing the same nonsense. Los Angeles is not Panama City. There is PLENTY of money in this town, and plenty of financing available to build in America's 2nd biggest city and doorway to Asia. There is clearly another reason that we are not being told.

I suspect that there must be some financial arrangement between the current tallest and the city (whether LA, NY, or any city), that prevents other towers from surpassing that height limit unless they reach a more favorable deal....just guessing here, but no other explanation makes sense to me.
But as excuses go, it's a pretty good one.

These guys don't make their money by investing in peoples' vanity projects. People don't get rich by making stupid business decisions. If they saw a need to spend the money then they would. It's not some conspiracy nor is it being pushed by the Lizard People. LA is in big earthquake country so building anything doesn't come cheap. Hell, look at Tokyo...bigger than half the countries in the world and didn't get a supertall until relatively recently.

We care about tall buildings. That doesn't mean anybody else really does.
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Sort of an update from Peebles...


https://www.jioforme.com/in-nyc-mino...story/1047798/

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Do you have any other new projects you are working on?

Peebles: We’ve got a project we’ve been working on for a number of years, going through land use and planning. It’s an air rights project, partially on land but mainly air rights, in the Back Bay in Boston, Parcel 13. We’re finally getting through the process there and it has taken years. That will be a life sciences and residential building and that’s about a half-billion-dollar project and will be our first in Boston. Hopefully the first of many.

We also have Angels Landing in downtown Los Angeles that we have gone through the cumbersome environmental impact and land use entitlement process that California has. We have completed our environmental impact report, it’s been accepted, and we’re just about done with the land use. That will be one of the tallest buildings in the United States. It will be two towers with a hotel in each, and luxury residential.
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Sounds like the height may have been bumped back up?
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Sounds like the height may have been bumped back up?
This?

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That will be one of the tallest buildings in the United States. It will be two towers with a hotel in each, and luxury residential.
It either got a lot taller or they haven't taken a good look at the list of tallest buildings in the US.

I suppose "one of" is also subjective, top 10? top 100?


Good to hear news on this project though, LA needs more buildings like this
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This?



It either got a lot taller or they haven't taken a good look at the list of tallest buildings in the US.

I suppose "one of" is also subjective, top 10? top 100?


Good to hear news on this project though, LA needs more buildings like this
Outside the Top 50 if it's less than 900 ft.
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Ha! Yeah, I don't think there's been a height increase, so I think it's just a matter of Peebles not being a member of this forum...
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At 854', it'd be #19 nationally excluding NYC and Chicago, so still top 20 on that score.

#64 including the two big dogs.
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...et-on-recovery

Los Angeles Greenlights $1.6 Billion Downtown Project in Bet on Recovery





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March 28, 2022


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Los Angeles has approved a $1.6 billion downtown hotel and apartment development, the biggest project to move forward since Covid-19 walloped the city two years ago.

The developers of Angels Landing, Don Peebles and Victor MacFarlane, say groundbreaking is about two years away as they look complete the two-tower project before the Olympics in 2028.

“It’s the biggest new project in LA coming out of the pandemic and it’ll create jobs in an industry -- hospitality -- that’s been decimated,” Peebles said.

Angels Landing, which still needs financing, wound its way through the city approval process for several years. It includes a 854-foot (260-meter) building that Peebles and MacFarlane say would be the third-highest in Los Angeles and the tallest ever built in the U.S. by Black developers.

The project will feature two hotels, apartments, condos and retail space. It will test investor appetites to bet on downtown Los Angeles at a time when crime and homelessness have complicated the pandemic recovery. While apartment demand has recovered, hotel occupancy still lags behind pre-pandemic levels, according to data provider STR. Office buildings, meanwhile, remain largely empty and numerous restaurants and shops never reopened.
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At 854', it'd be #19 nationally excluding NYC and Chicago, so still top 20 on that score.

#64 including the two big dogs.
Really shows the massiveness of the big ones. And (NYC at least, I don't keep that close track of Chicago) they just keep getting bigger and bigger. Hopefully LA really starts to bring the some tall towers.
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This project is great! I always love to see LA density and get taller, hopefully the trend continues!
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