SAN DIEGO | Boom Rundown, Vol. 2

[staplesla]

Horton Plaza park, the center of so much local history, will undergo a $14.3 million expansion under a plan given final approval Tuesday.

The City Council approved the final design and authorized advertising of bids, but noted a $726,000 funding shortfall that has yet to be bridged.

The plan by Civic San Diego, the city's revitalization arm, calls for mall owner Westfield to demolish the department store building, formerly occupied by Robinson's and then Planet Hollywood restaurant and Sam Goody's record and video store.

A new hardscape plaza will be extended south from the historic park to the Balboa Theater at E Street and result in a 57,000-square-foot park.

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/...gets-final-ok/

[mello]

Originally Posted by Derek

2015? Wow.....


Wasn't that proposed like 2 years ago?

Utterly pathetic that a large tourist city like SD does not have a signature bridge lit properly. Also did you guys see the Monday Night Football game last night? The Pittsburgh skyline is lit up so much better than ours. Their tall towers have bright colorful lights on the top, and they are not a tourist destination at all. I just don't understand this city sometimes... Oh and its the 40 year anniversary of the "Coastal 30 foot height limit"

Somewhere Miami is laughing its ass off *30 foot coastal height limit* wtf

[aerogt3]

Originally Posted by XtremeDave

I still am a little disappointed in San Diego that this election was more about pensions and unions rather than the future of this city (with very little said by the candidates regarding transportation and land use), and how the city is going to be able to make the necessary changes to bring San Diego into the 21st century.

Pensions and unions are billion dollar issues, I think that warrants trumping talks about how many bike paths to build.

[spoonman]

Originally Posted by HurricaneHugo

Also, what's that GIANT hole by 15th and Island? I don't think those towers have broken ground yet right?

Good question. Any have intel on this?

[kpexpress]

Originally Posted by spoonman

Good question. Any have intel on this?

The giant hole at 15th and Island is the Pinnacle Development project. Two towers (phased) each at almost 600 units, and a public park.

[staplesla]

Originally Posted by kpexpress

The giant hole at 15th and Island is the Pinnacle Development project. Two towers (phased) each at almost 600 units, and a public park.

So has this development officially started? The CividSD (CCDC) site and others says "no timeline for construction has been established."

[HurricaneHugo]

Passed by again, it said something about environmental cleanup.

Looking at the map it looks like it's the park portion of the development?

The hole is on the west side of the block

[kpexpress]

Originally Posted by staplesla

So has this development officially started? The CividSD (CCDC) site and others says "no timeline for construction has been established."

Yes, they have started excavating.

[SDfan]

Originally Posted by kpexpress

Yes, they have started excavating.

For the park, or for the towers?

[kpexpress]

Originally Posted by SDfan

For the park, or for the towers?

The developer has an agreement that if they build and maintain the park they can use a portion of the land for their below grade parking structure. So yes, that means they're excavating to build their parking and also the park...They will build one tower first.

[tdavis]

Here is a video and article about the 15th & Island project. What is going on now is the environmental cleanup. The development won't occur for at least 2 years according to the reporter, and the project was scaled back from the proposed 900+ units, to 230 apartment units with 23,000 sq. feet of retail.

http://www.10news.com/news/grant-awa...p-east-village

[Derek]

I remember like 4 years ago, that was my favorite proposed project. Now, after reading how much it's scaled back, it's just.....eh. Plus, another 2 years? Jesus...

[HurricaneHugo]

Finally upgraded my phone...

Downtown from Sherman/Golden Hills.

[SDfan]

Wait. Someone is wrong here.

15th and Island was, and to my knowledge is still, a Pinnacle Development project, as listed here:

http://www.ccdc.com/projects/major-d...-a-island.html

The adjoining park is here:

http://www.ccdc.com/projects/major-d...land-park.html

The article says that OliverMcMillan is the developer, and that the property for their 230-unit project was bought back in 2007.

That's funny, because Pinnacle just resubmitted the two tower project proposal, what? Last year? I'm too lazy to look back through our threads, maybe kexpress knows the time frames better.

So can someone clear this up, because I'm pretty sure someone (either 10news, forumer, developer) is wrong.

[Urbanize_It]

The environmental cleanup they are talking about in the February 2011 video was on the Southeast side of the 15th & Island intersection. (The one that still has a sign on it saying “15th & Island Environmental Cleanup”.) That was old news. The current excavation is occurring on the Southwest side of 15th & Island on the “mega block” that will eventually be a park and two Pinnacle towers. I believe kpexpress is correct that they are building out the underground parking, park and tower one of the project now.

[staplesla]

Anyone know the status of this project? This posting says it is to start contruction in 2013.

http://skyvillagerealty.com/real-est...ruction-condos

[staplesla]

Civic San Diego, formed in June to take over downtown and Southeastern San Diego redevelopment efforts, added 11 other areas to its portfolio Monday.

The areas covered are: Barrio Logan, City Heights, College Grove, Crossroads (taking in eastern El Cajon Boulevard, University Avenue, College Avenue and other nearby corridors), Grantville, Linda Vista, the former Naval Training Center in Point Loma, North Park, North San Diego Bay (taking in Pacific Highway, Morena Boulevard and parts of Loma Portal and Clairemont), San Diego State University area and San Ysidro.

Mayoral aide David Graham, who has been coordinating the transition, said CivicSD will assume control as of Dec. 1.

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/...nded-citywide/

[Derek]

Originally Posted by staplesla

Anyone know the status of this project? This posting says it is to start contruction in 2013.

http://skyvillagerealty.com/real-est...ruction-condos

Ah, I remember that one....from like 4 years ago.

[spoonman]

Originally Posted by Derek

Ah, I remember that one....from like 4 years ago.

I believe the next project Bosa will build is Kettner and Ash, which I recall from an article detailing the progression of his projects. If you dig around a bit you should find the info.

[kpexpress]

Originally Posted by staplesla

Anyone know the status of this project? This posting says it is to start contruction in 2013.

http://skyvillagerealty.com/real-est...ruction-condos

This is a BOSA project, but no the Kettner and Ash project. Here's the latest I know about all BOSA projects:

The two projects on the West side of downtown (Kettner/Ash & Pacific highway/Kettner) are both going through a peer-reviewed performance structural design so they can build taller than 240' without doing a dual structural system. They are blazing the trail in the city for doing this...the process takes about a year but could shorten for subsequent projects.

The project pictured is on Island/3rd....this project is totally up in the air because part of the deal for developing this project was a land swap (or something equivalent) between BOSA and CCDC.....the land is still tied up in the State oversight processes (unwinding redevelopment) and the whole thing is unpredictable. I'd have to do more research and asking..

To my knowledge BOSA is putting their efforts most into Pac/Kettner and would like to see this tower go under construction first. Kettner/Ash is really nice tower as well.