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Old Posted Jun 1, 2023, 12:03 AM
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Personally, I love the palm trees of Vancouver and am very pleased to see them growing on street sides, and in parks and gardens. That said, they are almost all "trachycarpus fortunei" or 'Windmill Palm,' and it gets a little monotonous.
I wish pindo palms could survive here, but they are not quite cold-tolerant enough to grow as easily as the ones we already have.

Secondly "trachycarpus" likes cool, temperate summers, and rain, and can tolerate winter cold snaps, as they are native to the lower slopes of the Himalayas and mountains of southern China.

The palm tree seen on Google Maps may have been a "Washingtonia Robusta" which line many Los Angeles streets, but are not cold-tolerant enough to grow here, and prefer hotter summers, being native to NW Mexico.

(Love to see some more variety though; it's always the same thing).
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a lot of the palms in Surrey are just leafless trunks, and many others are trunks topped with dead brown palms. The English Bay ones are really the only healthy-looking ones I have seen recently.
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a lot of the palms in Surrey are just leafless trunks, and many others are trunks topped with dead brown palms. The English Bay ones are really the only healthy-looking ones I have seen recently.
All the palms I have seen from Vancouver proper and the North Shore this spring on here all look good and healthy. Same for the Victoria area.
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Okay, going to post this again. Hopefully the conversation isn't over (which often seems too be my luck for when I chime in).

As others have said on here. from all the pics and videos I have seen this spring the palms at English Bay are healthy as normal. If a palm is able to bear fruit it is healthy. In fact the English Bay palms are more what Windmill Palms look like in their natural state, simply because they have not been pruned properly.

Where I am working today has some Windmill Palms that are pruned properly, so I will take a couple pictures of them and post them later today.

As for those Windmill Palms in Brentwood, they have suffered a triple hit.

First is the heat dome, the Brentwood area was considerably hotter than the downtown peninsula, likely hitting around 41 or 42 degrees (like the rest of the suburbs and valley). That did a number on them, since Windmill Palms are from moist mid altitude mountain areas that never experience temps that high.

Second was the cold snap, temps hit around -16, which isn't an immediate death sentence if brief enough, but its not good, and is very dangerous for the reproductive organs especially.

Now, either of these alone is bad, but together in the span of a year or two, is really bad.

Then there is the nail in the coffin, drought. Windmill Palms need moisture. The location of these palms is particularly bad, they are under the guideway! This means without adequate watering, they will suffer greatly. In fact, you can even see that the closer you get to the station house (with a greater rain shadow) the more unhealthy the palms become.

And here are the Windmill Palms at my workplace today. This is how they are propoerly pruned every spring:

image_16904449 by Ian, on Flickr

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This goes a long way in removing any confusion for what some may think is a "dead" look with last season's (and seasons' prior) dead fronds hanging on.
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Old Posted Jun 1, 2023, 4:57 AM
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The story behind the palms on the beach at Dundarave:

https://www.nsnews.com/local-news/no...f-mind-3149109

There are supposedly like 10,000 in the Lower Mainland.
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A bit late to the discussion but here are some of my pics of palms around Vancouver over the last eight months or so.

Dead or near dead palms are not very photogenic so of course you won't see them illustrated so much.
I would say they are in the minority but they sure stick out like sore thumbs.
How many years do we give them to come back?

Generally, I would say the palms on private property are doing the best.





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Hopefully somebody from the Palm society can save this specimen. I'm not sure it will survive the eventual redevelopment of that space.
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This goes a long way in removing any confusion for what some may think is a "dead" look with last season's (and seasons' prior) dead fronds hanging on.
I travelled to both LA and Hawaii last year. It was incredible to see what some pruning can do to make a palm tree look "healthy", as the palms in Kihei are pruned and the majority of palms in LA are not. The difference is night and day.
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Hopefully somebody from the Palm society can save this specimen. I'm not sure it will survive the eventual redevelopment of that space.
I pass by that one daily. I quite like it. Is it on private or city land?

I hope these ones can be saved as well. They're probably 30+ years old.

https://www.google.com/maps/@49.2635...8192?entry=ttu
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I pass by that one daily. I quite like it. Is it on private or city land?

I hope these ones can be saved as well. They're probably 30+ years old.

https://www.google.com/maps/@49.2635...8192?entry=ttu
I would guess it's private land since it's on the inside of the sidewalk, who knows though.
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The one on W 2nd is on public property, the existing building has zero setback from the property line.

The ones on Broadway in on the private lot, property line is at the sidewalk edge.



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I also hope those palms can be transplanted elsewhere. Those are ones that should be donated to the city / parks.

As far as trees go, Windmill Palms are among the easiest to dig up and transplant.

And yes, all the palms that mcminsen posted are healthy as can be, they ... just ... need ... to ... be ... pruned.
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I travelled to both LA and Hawaii last year. It was incredible to see what some pruning can do to make a palm tree look "healthy", as the palms in Kihei are pruned and the majority of palms in LA are not. The difference is night and day.
I was in Kihei ten years ago, and yes, they prune their palms immaculately in Hawaii.

Vancouver definitely takes the LA approach in palm care!
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took these pics today they aren't looking very good. Scott Road and 88th

one of the better ones
2023-06-13_08-18-45 by snub_you, on Flickr

2023-06-13_08-18-39 by snub_you, on Flickr

2023-06-13_08-18-51 by snub_you, on Flickr

2023-06-13_08-18-57 by snub_you, on Flickr

2 soso and 2 not so good
2023-06-13_08-29-33 by snub_you, on Flickr
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The ones that still have green fronds are doing okay, they just need to be cleaned up (and maybe better watered).

The others are dead and should be replaced.

Looking at the “planters” they are in some more TLC will be needed for any replacements.

Drought is just as bad for these palms as our cold snaps. The heat done also wasn’t their cup of tea.
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This one is pretty tall if it's planted on ground level.
Next to Dolce Vita.
Pic by me today.

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