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Old Posted Dec 7, 2018, 5:23 PM
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The fact it is probably going to take decades to develop all the land right around the airport calls into question spending billions on roads so we can open up greenfield development locations farther from the airport.
I may be wrong but it looks like they could and may integrate the current Landside Terminal into the plan once the new terminal opens. I would be for this re-use instead of a tear down.

The light rail and BRT shown in the renderings is comical. They expect a 10 year build out. For the light rail or even BRT to happen is a long shot.
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This has been reported in various places, but this article has a picture of the new hydroelectric facility Pitt is going to use for 25% of its power:

https://www.nextpittsburgh.com/city-...ropower-plant/

This is amazing! I don't even remember hearing about it.
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Old Posted Dec 7, 2018, 7:51 PM
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I don't necessarily love the aesthetics of 3 Crossings II, but the overall layout, density, and use of the plan is pretty sweet:



Similar Google 3D view:

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.4601.../data=!3m1!1e3
Agreed, the massing is excellent. I like it.
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This has been reported in various places, but this article has a picture of the new hydroelectric facility Pitt is going to use for 25% of its power:

https://www.nextpittsburgh.com/city-...ropower-plant/

Does anyone know if any of the other dams in the region are suitable for this kind of hydro power?
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Does anyone know if any of the other dams in the region are suitable for this kind of hydro power?
Absolutely.

There is a link in that article to this older article, where the developers of that project talk about the potential for more such projects in the region:

https://www.alleghenyfront.org/are-w...-three-rivers/

It includes this map--this is converting one of the proposed sites, and it looks like there are 8 more on this map:

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Thank you. That's exactly the kind of thing I was looking for.
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Drove around the city today, taking photos of most new developments, I think I got most of the major stuff, but obviously missed a ton of smaller developments. I don't know the names of most of this stuff but Im sure others do.

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New housing next to the abandoned St. Peters and Paul Church in Sliberty.

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Wilkinsburg Train Station restoration

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Sort of recent historic restorations in Wilkinsburg on Kelly Ave.

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New development on Butler Street in Upper Lawrenceville.

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School restoration in Upper Lville.

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Upper Lville

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New restorations in Upper Lville

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Butler St and 55th Street, Upper Lville

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Newly renovated house in Lower Lville on 45th St

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Newish brewery where that ugly used car lot used to be on Butler St and 45th

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Historic 1860s or so school that was abandoned forever restored in Lawrenceville on Hattfield St. Also, the housing on the right is brand new, which was recently just a vacant lot.

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New restorations in Lower Lville on 45th St

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Lower Lville

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Doughboy Square development, Lville

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38th St, Lville

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Across the street from the above photo

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School conversion to hotel on 40th St, Lawrenceville

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Our Lady of the Angels Parish development along Butler St, which is hardly urban and set about 30ft back from the sidewalk on Butler, which is kinda ridiculous.

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Butler Street, Arsenal development

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Butler Street

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Bakery Square

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Strip District

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Restoration (I think) of historic building on Smallman and 33rd.

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Smallman and 30th

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15th St, Strip District

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Not sure if the redevelopment of the Terminal Building has begun or not, but Smallman street is closed down and has been for a few weeks.

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AC Hotel at Smallman and 11th.

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Penn Ave

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Historic house slowly being restored at Armandale and Buena Vista St in the Mexican War Streets

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Newly renovated houses on N. Taylor St., Mexican War Streets

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New renovations on Buena Vista Street

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Renovation on N. Taylor Ave in Mexican War Streets

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Allegheny Commons Park

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Newly renovated houses across from the new fountain above.

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New renovation going in Allegheny West on N. Lincoln Ave.; they've beautiful restored the windows which were messed up in the 50s and replaced with those ugly tiny 50s windows.

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These buildings are supposedly being restored soon in Allegheny East on East Ohio St

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East Ohio St.

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Historic houses being renovated on Middle St in Allegheny East

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New houses by October Development on Suismon St, Allegheny East

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Foreland St and Middle St, Allegheny East

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Restoration on Cedar Ave.

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Restoration on a long abandoned building on Avery St., Allegheny East

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East Ohio St in East Allegheny

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N. Shore Drive

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Historic restoration on 3rd Ave

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Fort Pitt Blvd

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St. Casimir Catholic Church, which is being converted into apartments in the Southside.

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I dont know why they have made the windows so tiny on the building on the left. I think the finished product may be horrendously ugly, but at least it adds a ton of density to Oakland.

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Crappy photo of the Hazelwood development.

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Technology Center, Oakland by the river

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Old Posted Dec 10, 2018, 1:40 AM
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A lot of kickass things going on in Pittsburgh! Great update!
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Old Posted Dec 10, 2018, 8:20 PM
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Great photos Chris! Thanks for keeping us up to date on construction in the 'burg.
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Old Posted Dec 10, 2018, 8:26 PM
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Ditto--thanks so much for the great range of photos.
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Old Posted Dec 10, 2018, 10:43 PM
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The fact it is probably going to take decades to develop all the land right around the airport calls into question spending billions on roads so we can open up greenfield development locations farther from the airport.
This falsely assumes of course that the primary purpose of the Southern Beltway and MFE is to open up greenfield development as opposed to its real purpose of increasing the region's connectivity, especially in the southern suburbs; linking the southern and northern parts of the metro; and taking traffic off the parkways.

Still waiting for an explanation on how to mitigate the following major deficiencies wrt aerial gondolas:
-the fear of heights, which reduces its appeal to a segment of the population.
-high winds, which reduces its reliability.
-thunderstorms, which reduces its viability.
Its only success has been found to be in VERY extreme close up elevation change (La Paz; Pittsburgh is Kansas in comparison), the Pablo Escobar tourism trail (Medellin), and ski resorts.
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This falsely assumes of course that the primary purpose of the Southern Beltway and MFE is to open up greenfield development as opposed to its real purpose of increasing the region's connectivity, especially in the southern suburbs; linking the southern and northern parts of the metro; and taking traffic off the parkways.
Of course one could, say, look at a map, and see the route circles well outside most of the actual developed portions of the metro.

Or one could look at the traffic projections used to justify the project, and see they explicitly depended on greenfield development.

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Still waiting for an explanation on how to mitigate the following major deficiencies wrt aerial gondolas:
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-the fear of heights, which reduces its appeal to a segment of the population.
Which of course is why we shouldn't build airports, right?

Some people aren't going to like any given mode of transportation. But generally many more people than not actually quite like aerial gondolas, since it is a more pleasant and interesting experience than being stuck in traffic or in a tunnel (something which other people fear, I note). In fact, they often get positive TripAdvisor reviews as attractions.

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-high winds, which reduces its reliability.
That's a design/engineering problem. You look at the wind profile in the area you are building and use a sufficiently robust version of the technology for that application.

I note surface transportation has all sorts of weather-related reliability issues they can avoid. Again, no mode is perfect, they all have potential tradeoffs, but well-designed aerial gondola systems actually tend to have very little out of service time. Also very few accidents.

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They are grounded, which of course is why they can be used in so many places which have storms.

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Its only success has been found to be in VERY extreme close up elevation change (La Paz; Pittsburgh is Kansas in comparison), the Pablo Escobar tourism trail (Medellin), and ski resorts.
You are missing many cases. Caracas, Mexico City, Cali, Ankara (Turkey), Manizales, Constantine (Algeria), Nizhny Novgorod (Russia), Bogota (upcoming), and so on.

I note the fact these systems have not only been built but keep being expanded with more cities starting new systems shows the technology does in fact work and is in fact popular. So it is less a matter of whether they work at all, since they obviously do, but when they make the most sense.

And with that in mind, there are really three things they do particularly well--elevation changes, crossing rivers, and fitting into already well-developed areas. As I always point out, though, they are way slower than most forms of transit operating on dedicated ROW. They make up for that a bit with straight-line routing and low wait times, but ultimately they are only going to have so much practical range--they can't replace longer-range commuter rail, bus routes, and so on.

Let me know if you have more questions! I am happy to help.

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A photo look around the abandoned Western State Penitentiary:

https://rockyroadfamily.com/2018/11/...in-pittsburgh/
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Interesting article I found on curbed
Why do all new apartment buildings look the same?
https://www.curbed.com/2018/12/4/181...form=hootsuite
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Interesting article I found on curbed
Why do all new apartment buildings look the same?
https://www.curbed.com/2018/12/4/181...form=hootsuite
Very interesting indeed.

I'll say I do think there is often a sameness to buildings from the same era, particularly when they are going up quickly in response to undersupplied demand. And I do think they tend to get more valued when they are older, but that is a hard thing for people to imagine until it actually happens.
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Very interesting indeed.

I'll say I do think there is often a sameness to buildings from the same era, particularly when they are going up quickly in response to undersupplied demand. And I do think they tend to get more valued when they are older, but that is a hard thing for people to imagine until it actually happens.
Yes, older buildings do tend to be more valued as they get older because the newer architecture in comparison appears bland. (Something to look forward to) But as the article states most of these building won't be around in 40 years.

Speaking of Architecture. Here is another well written piece from the city paper on the new Tepper Quad.
After $205 million and three years of construction, Carnegie Mellon University's David A. Tepper Quad is complete
It's a praiseworthy achievement across many of its stated goals, but it also falls terribly short in some crucial areas of architecture
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https://www.pghcitypaper.com/pittsbu...t?oid=12558890
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You are missing many cases. Caracas, Mexico City, Cali, Ankara (Turkey), Manizales, Constantine (Algeria), Nizhny Novgorod (Russia), Bogota (upcoming), and so on.
Don't forget NYC has the Roosevelt Island Tramway going across the east river since 1976. And recently there has also been talk of putting an aerial gondola from Manhattan to Governors Island.

https://www.timeout.com/newyork/news...-island-033018
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Interesting article I found on curbed
Why do all new apartment buildings look the same?
https://www.curbed.com/2018/12/4/181...form=hootsuite
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Yes, older buildings do tend to be more valued as they get older because the newer architecture in comparison appears bland. (Something to look forward to) But as the article states most of these building won't be around in 40 years.
I found the article interesting as well and chalk up the lack of architecture to the finances, as stated:
“Critics don’t understand what we’re working with, the parameters and the financial constraints,” says Black. “It’s like any other business: If you’re selling autos or selling widgets, there are certain costs, and a certain profit you need to make to do business in the future.”

Basically, they can't spend a dime more or they won't turn a profit. And the city or community where the project is located has to live with it for a long time - maybe 40 years (maybe)? I dunno, but someone said the most sustainable building is the one that is already there, unless it's a developer's folly that doesn't last long enough to be revered. Let's build (and maybe require) a structure that doesn't look bland and will last. (sorry for the sarcasm)
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After some false starts, it looks like things may finally be moving forward on redeveloping the old school building at the corner of Grandview and Bigham on Mt. Washington. This is a great piece of property with a lot of redevelopment potential.

According to the Patch article on the sale, the properties were purchased by the owners of Castle Shannon's Mindful Brewing. An "upscale brewery" may be in the works.

Of course, the site and adjoining buildings are far too massive for a brewery alone. I presume condos or apartments will be part of the development at some point as well.

https://patch.com/pennsylvania/pitts...Jn7ruXJlsj6S80
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Apple to add jobs in Pittsburgh

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Apple did not specific exactly how many jobs it is adding in Pittsburgh, but a graphic released by the company indicates it will have somewhere between 100 and 250 employees in the Pittsburgh region by 2022.
https://www.bizjournals.com/pittsbur...ittsburgh.html

Not a ton of new jobs (though I've seen other websites say "up to 1,000"), but it's nice to end up on lists like this and keep the tech momentum going. Great things happening in this city.
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