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Old Posted Aug 15, 2019, 3:05 PM
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That Office Max is right up there with the lot at Illinois/Wabash as urban enemy #1a/1b in my book. I HATE it.
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Old Posted Aug 15, 2019, 3:28 PM
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That Office Max is right up there with the lot at Illinois/Wabash as urban enemy #1a/1b in my book. I HATE it.

Office Depot.

Entirely different animal.
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Old Posted Aug 15, 2019, 3:33 PM
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Office Depot.

Entirely different animal.
Not to mention Staples, or did they merge with someone one.

I can't tell any of them apart - sort of like PetCo and PetSmart.
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Old Posted Aug 15, 2019, 3:52 PM
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^ Nobody can - or should be able to - tell any of them apart (or any category killer national retailer in the US!). I was being facetious....may not have translated
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Exactly! When he said that I just started laughing. Anyone who sees my posts, is well aware how pro-preservation I am in 95% of cases. This one is one of those 5% unworthy cases... I love brick pre-war buildings, but the best ones that haven't been converted at this point are in the neighborhoods, not downtown. My heart hurts every day I'm driving around McKinley Park, Back of the Yards and other southwest side neighborhoods where we are letting these beauties crumble away. Those are the buildings we can point to your average person and go, "Look! That's our history dying, but we can turn it into something better and give it a new life if we don't ignore it!"

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I'm glad to know you've got it all figured out, but you don't have to be an asshole about it. This forum can get mean when there's a dissenting POV.

Advocating for 300 N Michigan was more of a thought experiment than anything else, because where to draw the line for preservation is gray not B&W. Some people vehemently want to preserve buildings like Lakeside Center, Thompson Center, others say tear that tired shit down.
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Old Posted Aug 15, 2019, 5:18 PM
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I'm glad to know you've got it all figured out, but you don't have to be an asshole about it. This forum can get mean when there's a dissenting POV.

Advocating for 300 N Michigan was more of a thought experiment than anything else, because where to draw the line for preservation is gray not B&W. Some people vehemently want to preserve buildings like Lakeside Center, Thompson Center, others say tear that tired shit down.
I'm not being an asshole. I genuinely go out of my way to not be mean to people here. If you interpreted me as being mean, I'm sorry, but that certainly wasn't my intention.

As a side note, the reason those two are debated at such great lengths is because of location, who built them(Helmut Jahn has a big fanclub), rarity in their type and size. Apples to oranges.
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Old Posted Aug 15, 2019, 5:46 PM
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That Office Max is right up there with the lot at Illinois/Wabash as urban enemy #1a/1b in my book. I HATE it.
That property is actually owned by Office Depot, right? I feel like their financial problems (or God-forbid bankruptcy) should push them to a sale eventually. Their stock is down over 60% in just the last 4 months. Their market cap is just $740m. This location alone could represent a non-insignificant part of their market cap.

I wonder if a grocery store could work as the anchor of a tower there. I used to live in that pocket of RN and getting groceries wasn't the easiest task.
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Old Posted Aug 15, 2019, 7:55 PM
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That property is actually owned by Office Depot, right? I feel like their financial problems (or God-forbid bankruptcy) should push them to a sale eventually. Their stock is down over 60% in just the last 4 months. Their market cap is just $740m. This location alone could represent a non-insignificant part of their market cap.

I wonder if a grocery store could work as the anchor of a tower there. I used to live in that pocket of RN and getting groceries wasn't the easiest task.
I like that line of thinking, and with how many more people will be moving there every year, it only makes sense. Hopefully Office Depot people understand the plot's value
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Office Depot.

Entirely different animal.
Office Max and Office Depot are the same company. They sell identical selections of products, but maintain them as two separate brands.
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Old Posted Aug 17, 2019, 4:58 PM
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Very nice roundup by Curbed on the West Loop / Fulton Market building boom. I've long lost track and simply can't keep up.

Mapping the West Loop’s development boom:


https://chicago.curbed.com/maps/west...on-development

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Old Posted Aug 18, 2019, 4:31 AM
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Very nice roundup by Curbed on the West Loop / Fulton Market building boom. I've long lost track and simply can't keep up.

Mapping the West Loop’s development boom:


https://chicago.curbed.com/maps/west...on-development

Yeah, after seeing that article I ran around the West Loop... I'll have an update for tomorrow with some of the projects
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^Really looking forward to seeing 1043 W. Fulton, 375 N. Morgan, 1000 W. Carrol, 345 N. Morgan, 800 W. Fulton, and 330 N. Green.

SOM has a nice showing in this hood.

The Amy-Lu Collection looks like straight garbage.
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Apparent (conceptual?) office tower proposal designed by JGMA for John Buck, which would have included a park over a decked portion of the Kennedy. Hopefully whatever is built here is equally ambitious.
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^^ Man, modern architecture is getting more retarded by the minute. It's like an exercise in mental masturbation. Like "yea, we have run out of ideas. try this obnoxious design on for size" That thing is grotesque. Just stop. Find a new medium.
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^^ Man, modern architecture is getting more retarded by the minute. It's like an exercise in mental masturbation. Like "yea, we have run out of ideas. try this obnoxious design on for size" That thing is grotesque. Just stop. Find a new medium.
What are you on, I would be ecstatic if this was real.
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Old Posted Aug 18, 2019, 10:13 PM
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Various West Loop projects:



























What is this big crane for?













Thought this was neat... a concrete truck inside a warehouse building























Yellow crane in the bottom lefthand corner of that Wabash project... also am I crazy or did they just repaint the Lux apartment building? The red looks good. Red seems to be a growing South Loop trend.

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Old Posted Aug 18, 2019, 10:21 PM
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Thanks for all the pics.

Even though the West Loop is on fire, boy it still has a long ways to go. Still a lot of underutilized lots
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