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Old Posted Jul 27, 2007, 11:59 PM
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Jeez that's not good. Could be the canary in the cave type moment for DTP. With that asswipe Mohana holding up the landswap deal for the forseable future, how long can the mall limp around by itself. It might not be long before we see check cashing businesses, nick-nack stores, and generic chinese fastfood places with the faded, lamented pictures of their "yum" offerings dominate the place.
but remember Moe has said he is the good guy here and is being bullyied.....
hmmmm has Moe ever developed anything or is he just a slum lord driving big cars off of cheap rent??
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Great....

K Street land owners win round one
Sacramento Business Journal - 12:04 PM PDT Wednesday, August 15, 2007
by Michael Shaw

Downtown property owner Mohammed "Moe" Mohanna and an affiliated group of developers have won an initial round in a dispute with Sacramento's redevelopment agency over a stalled land swap of property along K Street that had been slated for redevelopment.

The judge in a lawsuit filed by the city in February has issued a preliminary ruling that the city was not justified in recording what's known as a "lis pendens" on property owned by Mohanna and others in the 700 block of K Street -- essentially a notice that the property is tied up in litigation and buyers or investors should be wary.

The city is suing Mohanna and others, trying to enforce a land swap that has been stalled since a fire gutted properties on the 800 block and others were demolished. Mohanna filed to have the lis pendens notice expunged.

The land swap would've allowed Zeiden Properties LLC to build a Z Gallerie furniture store and other retail shops on the 700 block on four properties currently owned by other developers, in exchange for giving those developers property in the 800 block. Property owners then balked at a transfer, saying they would receive property of lesser value after the fire and demolition.

Superior Court Judge Loren McMaster plans to hear arguments at 2 p.m. Wednesday on the matter, but has issued a preliminary ruling that the city has not shown it would win on the merits of the case. McMaster wrote that the developers expected a "value-for-value" transaction, but that the value of the property was affected by the fire and subsequent demolition. A condition of the land exchange agreement was that Mohanna and others receive value for value.

Mohanna and others are also seeking attorney's fees for having the lis pendens notice expunged, but the judge has not ruled on that issue.

The overall court case is still pending.
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Old Posted Aug 15, 2007, 8:37 PM
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I guess the city was just a wee bit overly optimistic that stretches of a redeveloped K street would be shopable in time for Christmas this year. I wouldn't go making plans to holiday shop anywhere on K street other than DTP anytime in the next 5 years or so.
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Old Posted Aug 15, 2007, 9:15 PM
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From what I have heard from someone who owns a restaurant just off of K Street
is that several well known restaurants in the area are not doing well. As it was
explained to me, they are hanging on month to month. Business has dropped
off dramatically from the year before.

NOT a good sign

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Old Posted Aug 15, 2007, 11:03 PM
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Sadly it seems like K steet improvements are going to get stalled into eternity...

The city REALLY needs to expedite the K street pedestrian improvements. That will go along way to increasing the desireablity of the area for business owners and customers.

What is the status of the K street improvements anyway? Why havent they started? Lack of money?
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Old Posted Aug 15, 2007, 11:28 PM
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It'll probably be easier just to pay this bastard off.
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Old Posted Aug 16, 2007, 3:21 PM
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Yeah, I don't see the city wanting to go through the protracted time or legal wrangling trying to ED all of Mohanna's rag tag collection of buildings. It might be a different story if we were talking about one building here. It looks like Mohanna has the city right where he wants. Forced to pay whatever inflated pricetag to move K street forward.
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Old Posted Aug 16, 2007, 4:47 PM
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K Street land deal hits legal setback
Sacramento is unlikely to succeed in bid to force developer to swap property, judge finds.
By Terri Hardy - Bee Staff Writer
Published 12:00 am PDT Thursday, August 16, 2007

A judge's ruling Wednesday dealt a major blow to development of two critical blocks on the K Street mall in downtown Sacramento, setting the stage for a potentially lengthy legal battle or an eminent domain fight.

Sacramento Superior Court Judge Loren McMaster found that the city wasn't likely to prevail in a lawsuit to force a development team headed by property owner Moe Mohanna to go through with an agreed-upon land swap.

The city wanted the exchange so that a development team fronted by Joe Zeiden, owner of the Z Gallerie furniture retail chain, could revamp the historic buildings in the 700 block of K Street and install them with well-known retailers.

The exchange would have paved the way for Mohanna's team to transform the street's 800 block with condos and retail.

But McMaster found that a fire and demolition of buildings in the 800 block lowered the property value and wouldn't have resulted in a fair exchange.

The city's lawsuit still is pending, but the ruling will trigger discussions on the next steps, said James Gilpin, the private attorney representing the city. Options include the city using its powers of eminent domain, he said.

"We're at a fork in the road," Gilpin said. "We have to decide which way to go to get K Street redeveloped."

Gilpin said it was possible to go forward with the lawsuit, and noted that not all evidence had gone to McMasters before he made his ruling.

Mayor Heather Fargo, through a spokeswoman, said she hadn't been briefed on the ruling and could not comment.

The attorney representing the Mohanna team called the lawsuit "frivolous" and said the victory Wednesday all but kills the land swap. And, they said they are preparing for a fight.

"If they try it (eminent domain) we'll be ready for that, said Myron Moskovitz, attorney for Mohanna and his team.

"My clients want to see the redevelopment of K Street. They have the ability to redevelop the 700 block themselves, and they'd still like to do that."

If the case goes forward, it would likely take a year to go to trial, Moskovitz said.

City officials have said the land swap is crucial to make redevelopment possible in the area. The city already has spent more than $24 million to speed up the process by buying property in the area from other owners and relocating merchants.

"At this point we're left with scattered parcels of ownership," said Leslie Fritzche, the city's downtown development manager. "We're left to explore our options. Do we fold our tent, lick our wounds and go home? I don't know."

Wednesday's setback could also mean developer Zeiden pulls out of the project. Fritzche said Zeiden has so far remained committed, but they would have to look now at whether he wants to go forward if land can't be consolidated.

Zeiden's spokeswoman, Wendy Hoyt, did not return a call for comment.

Redeveloping the 700 and 800 blocks, among downtown's most blighted blocks, is crucial and the main concern for the Downtown Sacramento Partnership, said executive director Michael Ault.

"Whatever the ruling, progress has got to be the priority," Ault said. "Further legal wrangling impacts our ability to move forward."

Movement has been slow in coming. In January 2005, the city took a get-tough approach.

It gave property owners of the run-down businesses and empty lots a tight deadline to produce viable redevelopment plans or face the possibility that the city would appropriate the property under the power known as eminent domain.

In court Wednesday, the Mohanna team's attorney complained to the judge about the tactics, and said his clients didn't like the land swap deal.

"(The city) said 'you're not good enough, we're going to take it away from you and if you don't like it we'll use eminent domain,' " Moskovitz said. "They were under pressure, under threats."

After a fire in November and subsequent demolition, Mohanna has said banks have been unwilling to transfer $4 million in loans he has on property in the 700 block to the 800 block. Mohanna went to the city to ask for more financial help but that was rejected, he said.

"My client was left with rubble," Moskovitz said.

At issue in Wednesday's hearing was a legal document the city filed against the properties that were to be part of the exchange. The "lis pendens" warn the land is tied up in litigation and make it difficult for properties to be sold or for money to be borrowed on the land.

The judge ruled that the lis pendens be removed.

Mohanna also has filed a countersuit against the city, seeking to recover damages. His attorney said he's losing $40,000 in monthly rent from tenants the city evicted.

And Mohanna is suing Zeiden, claiming the developer was negligent in his oversight of his buildings, leading to the fire.

Despite these complaints, Mohanna's team hasn't said officially it won't accept the land swap.

"We're not claiming the agreement is terminated," Moskovitz told the judge. "Maybe we will, and maybe we won't."
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Old Posted Aug 16, 2007, 6:57 PM
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What we really need is an F-5 twister that runs directly down K from St.Rose to the Cathedral and just suck it all out of there. Mo would be happy with all the FEMA money he would fraudulently claim, the city could pick up all the lots for dirt cheap, and the rubble could be used for construction materials of a "sea wall" for the riverfront development!

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What we really need is an F-5 twister that runs directly down K from St.Rose to the Cathedral and just suck it all out of there. Mo would be happy with all the FEMA money he would fraudulently claim, the city could pick up all the lots for dirt cheap, and the rubble could be used for construction materials of a "sea wall" for the riverfront development!
and who says Sacramentans can't think BIG????

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Old Posted Aug 17, 2007, 5:05 AM
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Moe is why......at least the 7th and 8th street issues


btw? I have eaten lunch on k street for 8 yrs.......a few places are busier than ever.....a few have changed hands and a few need to close(just plain bad food and serv etc).
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and who says Sacramentans can't think BIG????

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I'm flattered Tower however, I live in the no-one-wants-it land between Sacramento and Rancho better known as Rosemont... Get us annexed and I'll consider it!

And would it kill the city to disinfect the alley by St. Rose Park? Summertime heat does not react well with that open air latrine... Blech! I have to hold my breath walking through that section of K...

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Old Posted Aug 17, 2007, 4:26 PM
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At this point, I really have no idea what Mohanna wants. I thought he just wanted to get bought out..but the more and more it looks like he just wants to keep his property and keep being a slumlord in the area. If he wanted to get bought, I can't see how that couldn't have happen by now.

Anti-tax group eyes K Street
If eminent domain is used by city, it would be issue in a state ballot measure.
By Terri Hardy - Bee Staff Writer

A push for the renovation of K Street has turned ugly, pitting the city against Moe Mohanna, the owner of several blighted downtown properties.

If the city were to use its biggest stick and try to forcibly take Mohanna's land, it could set up an unintended result: turning Mohanna into the poster child for a ballot initiative looking to crack down on the use of eminent domain.

Mohanna's legal fight with the city, according to sponsors of the statewide ballot initiative, would certainly be prime fodder for their campaign.

"Moe Mohanna's case won't just be a local issue then, it will be a statewide issue," said Jon Coupal, president of the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Organization, one of the initiative's sponsors.

Already, Coupal said, Mohanna has contacted him about his legal wrangling with the city.

The city is suing Mohanna and his development team to force them to go through with an agreed-upon land swap with another developer. The deal was devised to allow the revitalization of two of K Street's worst stretches -- the 700 and 800 blocks.

A court ruling this week put the success of the city's suit in question when a judge found Sacramento wasn't likely to prevail at trial. Superior Court Judge Loren McMaster found that a fire and demolition of buildings in the 800 block lowered its value, making it an unfair trade for Mohanna and his team.

City officials have said consolidation of the land is crucial to the redevelopment plan. To speed the process, the city has spent at least $24 million to buy portions of the blocks and to relocate merchants.

The property exchange would allow Mohanna and his development team to revitalize the 800 block of K Street. And it would mean a development team fronted by Joe Zeiden, owner of the Z Gallerie furniture retail chain, could revamp the historic buildings on the 700 block of K Street and install retailers in them.

John Dangberg, assistant city manager for economic development, said city officials had yet to determine the implications of McMaster's ruling. He said he believed the lawsuit, still in its early stages, would continue.

Dangberg said he believed the city could continue with the suit and pursue eminent domain at the same time. Any decision to go through with eminent domain would be a public process, with a final vote made by the City Council.

"Eminent domain is a tool of last resort, but that said, our goal is to get K Street developed," Dangberg said. "We are prepared to recommend to the council that we use every tool available to get us to that end."

City Councilman Ray Tretheway, whose district includes K Street, said the council has yet to be briefed. However, he said he thinks the city should continue with the lawsuit, even if it takes a year or more to come to trial.

"I think we should stay the course," Tretheway said.

Myron Moskovitz, the attorney representing Mohanna's development team, said his clients are preparing to fend off an eminent domain push.

"That's the word we get back from the city," Moskovitz said. "They haven't formally begun the procedure, but they're absolutely considering it."

For years, some properties in the 700 and 800 blocks of K Street have been allowed to fall into disrepair, even collapse. At the beginning of 2005, the city took a get-tough policy saying if property owners in those blocks didn't submit workable redevelopment plans, the city would take the land through eminent domain.

The city then awarded Mohanna and his team the right to develop the 800 block and Zeiden the opportunity to redo the 700 block.

The city has been forced to use eminent domain to take possession of crime-ridden properties it could not obtain through other means, said Lisa Bates, director of housing and development for the Sacramento Housing and Redevelopment Agency.

The Franklin Villa housing area in south Sacramento was turned into affordable housing owned by a nonprofit agency. Washington Market, a liquor store in Oak Park, was seized through eminent domain and torn down. The store had been a magnet for drug crimes, robberies and prostitution, police said.

Dangberg said the city would lose a vital tool if local governments lost the right to use eminent domain for economic development.

In response to the Howard Jarvis eminent domain initiative, the Assembly Constitutional Amendment 8 has been proposed. Both are still gathering signatures to qualify for the June 8 statewide ballot.

ACA 8, like the Howard Jarvis measure, would prohibit the state or local government from taking land from a homeowner if it is to be transferred to a private party. But ACA 8 would not prohibit taking property from small business owners. Instead, it would require the owner first be given a chance to participate in a revitalization plan.
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At this point, I really have no idea what Mohanna wants. I thought he just wanted to get bought out..but the more and more it looks like he just wants to keep his property and keep being a slumlord in the area. If he wanted to get bought, I can't see how that couldn't have happen by now.
Mohanna he's doing Sacramento a favor by holding onto these properties. He's also got a spin-doctor over on the Sac Bee comments; some weirdo named Mazi1120 (in one comment he says, "Mr. Mohanna has remodeled the buildings on 700 and 800 block for the past 20 years or so" ). It's ridiculous. At least the gang members who hang out in front of his property can admit they're thugs.
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Yeah, some of the comments are there are pretty suspect. If you take a look at some of the other comments some of those people have made, it's only on articles about K Street or Mohanna, and they are all saying he's a saint.
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Besides owning land in downtown Sacramento what major projects has Mohanna done to improve the area? I was just curious.
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Old Posted Aug 19, 2007, 10:00 PM
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That Record place which was bought out and now is in the old tower records on broadway AND Joe Sun are laughing all the way to the bank.......

the city did get to close out the tatoo place but now some other places are moving in......

Moe for Mayor!

alas Moe has basically done nothing but claim he is a saint and collect rent.
what does this man actually do?? Is he Nassi's valet or something?
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Old Posted Aug 20, 2007, 7:34 AM
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I say forget about the land swap for the moment. Offer Zeiden a big ass subsidy to develop the 800 blk property then rezone Moe's block for manufacturing only, declare all the buildings historical landmarks and get on his ass about keeping up to code. Because it's zoned for industry the publik needs to be kept away from a 'hazard' area so a wall is going to have to be built around his buildings with limited access.
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Old Posted Aug 20, 2007, 7:47 AM
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If that dosen't work maybe someone should "encourage" a pyro tweaker from San Diego to indulge his obession at Moe's prized possessions. Opps..Don't blame us Moe: "We Didn't Start the Fire".
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The tattoo shop, piercing studio and comic shop that were in the building also relocated: the tattoo shop to J and 23rd, the comic shop to J and 17th, and Sub-Q piercing/tattooing to I and 17th. The record shop wasn't actually "bought out" but they did get some relocation funds and a good deal on the new location. Joe Sun laughed all the way to the bank, albeit a bit sadly considering they had to close a family business open for something like 70 years for pretty much no reason.

The buildings on the 700 block are already listed as historic buildings in the Sacramento historic structures register, but that actually means very little when it comes to enforcing minimum maintenance standards. I'm all for a far stricter interpretation of those standards, as well as a "carrot" in the form of Mills Act tax subsidies for historic properties, but right now owners of historic properties can pretty much let their buildings fall apart with little or no repercussions from the city. It's called "demolition by neglect."

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