NHL Thread: Season 2018-2019 - Page 24

Calgarian · #**461** Posted **Nov 5, 2018, 7:51 PM**

Gaudreau has 19 points in 15 games and Monahan and Tkachuck have 18 while Lindholm has 17, generational numbers for our top 4 guys!

DoubleK · #**462** Posted **Nov 5, 2018, 7:56 PM**

That's only because Calgary hasn't had a legit superstar for over a generation.

Calgarian · #**463** Posted **Nov 5, 2018, 7:58 PM**

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That's only because Calgary hasn't had a legit superstar for over a generation.

Iginla wasn't a superstar?

suburbanite · #**464** Posted **Nov 5, 2018, 8:31 PM**

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Originally Posted by Calgarian

Iginla wasn't a superstar?

No doubt he was. Good durability too in his prime. Never played less than 70 games during his time in Calgary while being one of the last members of the "old guard" of all-stars that could put up 90 points while still playing an extremely physical game and dropping the gloves if they needed to.

Calgarian · #**465** Posted **Nov 5, 2018, 8:40 PM**

Yep, Iggy was a beast, not many power forwards like him in the game anymore.

logan5 · #**466** Posted **Nov 5, 2018, 10:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by Calgarian

Gaudreau has 19 points in 15 games and Monahan and Tkachuck have 18 while Lindholm has 17, generational numbers for our top 4 guys!

Al due respect to those guys, but any gm in the league would trade any of those guys in a heartbeat for Pettersson.

Calgarian · #**467** Posted **Nov 5, 2018, 10:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by logan5

Al due respect to those guys, but any gm in the league would trade any of those guys in a heartbeat for Pettersson.

Are you really this big of a homer? Why can't you understand that Pettersson has played 9 GAMES! and he already has had a concussion. This is FAR TOO SMALL of a sample size to really determine a players worth!

Pettersson may become the player you want him so badly to be, but anyone that makes trades like you are suggesting based on 9 games of total NHL experience is an idiot.

logan5 · #**468** Posted **Nov 5, 2018, 10:42 PM**

Well, if you wouldn’t trade lindholm for Pettersson, I don’t know what to say. I guess you wouldn’t trade any of those guys for Rasmus Dahlin then, since he’s only played a handful of nhl games. I think people are greatly underestimating what he did in Sweden as an 18 year old going into last season.

Calgarian · #**469** Posted **Nov 5, 2018, 10:59 PM**

At the end of the season I might be all over it. What you don't seem to understand is that 9 games is nothing, and nobody cares how well he did in the Swedish league. Lots of players who dominated in the KHL (A better league than the Swedish League) have struggled here. The only experience that matters is NHL. All everyone is saying about this is wait and see before you proclaim him the greatest Swede of all time.

ST1 · #**470** Posted **Nov 6, 2018, 1:51 AM**

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Originally Posted by logan5

Al due respect to those guys, but any gm in the league would trade any of those guys in a heartbeat for Pettersson.

How long have you been following hockey? No offense, but that's just plain stupid, no GM would make that trade. Maybe Pettersson for Lindolm, and that's a maybe. Nobody would trade Monahan or Gaudreau for a guy who looks good but has only played 9 games.

ST1 · #**471** Posted **Nov 6, 2018, 1:52 AM**

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Originally Posted by logan5

Well, if you wouldn’t trade lindholm for Pettersson, I don’t know what to say. I guess you wouldn’t trade any of those guys for Rasmus Dahlin then, since he’s only played a handful of nhl games. I think people are greatly underestimating what he did in Sweden as an 18 year old going into last season.

No they aren't. It's more like your overestimating Pettersson. You might be right in a year or two, but right now 9 games in.

Coldrsx · #**472** Posted **Nov 6, 2018, 3:00 AM**

Iggy was legit. Few, if any, could replicate.

theman23 · #**473** Posted **Nov 6, 2018, 4:02 AM**

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Originally Posted by logan5

Al due respect to those guys, but any gm in the league would trade any of those guys in a heartbeat for Pettersson.

How do you know???

theman23 · #**474** Posted **Nov 6, 2018, 4:02 AM**

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Originally Posted by JHikka

Dahlin also plays defense.

And is 2 years younger.

Firebrand · #**475** Posted **Nov 6, 2018, 4:51 AM**

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Originally Posted by Calgarian

Are you really this big of a homer? Why can't you understand that Pettersson has played 9 GAMES! and he already has had a concussion. This is FAR TOO SMALL of a sample size to really determine a players worth!

Pettersson may become the player you want him so badly to be, but anyone that makes trades like you are suggesting based on 9 games of total NHL experience is an idiot.

People like Logan5 are the reason I stopped watching GDTs in r/canucks and r/hockey. The vitriol from Canucks fans just tunes me out every time and ruins the vibe.

logan5 · #**476** Posted **Nov 6, 2018, 6:30 AM**

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People like Logan5 are the reason I stopped watching GDTs in r/canucks and r/hockey. The vitriol from Canucks fans just tunes me out every time and ruins the vibe.

I'm extremely impressed with Pettersson, and I've definitely expressed that here, but I'm pretty sure I haven't expressed any vitriol towards anybody.

Lots of players are capable of the plays he makes, and any player looks good in a highlight package, but he is capable of doing these things a lot more frequently than almost anybody. He gets such a good shot away very quickly. The tying goal in the last minute of the Colorado game being an example.

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BlaineN · #**477** Posted **Nov 6, 2018, 6:50 AM**

Logan, I'm gonna be polite here, I think you're jumping the gun. Everyone agrees the kid has talent, and will no doubt be a good player, but at this early stage nobody knows how good. Nobody.

As a Leafs fan I'm still not ready to call Matthews a generational player, or maybe even a superstar yet. He's already played 155 games and has great numbers for a stretch that long.

Maybe it's because I'm a Leafs fan and my people have suffered for years. But it could also be that I've watched hockey since I was a kid and have seen lots of players light it up in junior/college, Europe, etc... and and lots of players get off to hot starts and all the buzz it creates, but buzz is cheap. Great careers aren't.

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Originally Posted by logan5

Al due respect to those guys, but any gm in the league would trade any of those guys in a heartbeat for Pettersson.

That would never happen. No GM with half a brain would trade a guy like Gaudreau who is a gifted player, but more importantly a proven one, or a proven goal scorer like Monahan, for an unproven guy who looks good in his first 9 games. Lindholm maybe.

rotten42 · #**478** Posted **Nov 6, 2018, 3:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by logan5

Al due respect to those guys, but any gm in the league would trade any of those guys in a heartbeat for Pettersson.

hahah..thanks for the morning laugh. A kid that's played 9 games and every GM would trade their best guys for him. May I suggest you apply for the Edmonton Oilers GM job...please!!

Calgarian · #**479** Posted **Nov 6, 2018, 4:11 PM**

Chicago fires Quenneville... Damn!

BlaineN · #**480** Posted **Nov 6, 2018, 4:48 PM**

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Chicago fires Quenneville... Damn!

Not surprising. He had a good run with the Hawks, but the last couple of times I saw the Hawks play (Calgary and Edmonton) they didn't look very inspired.