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Old Posted Mar 6, 2019, 5:19 PM
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IMO Atlanta qualifies as east coast because the sphere of influence in which Atlanta is the primate city extends to the coast. This is different from Pittsburgh or Nashville of Buffalo, which is why I don't think of them as east coast cities.
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atlanta would be an exception for me as well. it just doesn't register as "coastal" in my mind.

at 230 miles inland, that's inland enough for me to lump it in the "inland city" category, just like pittsburgh.

similarly, on the other side of the country, las vegas is about 240 miles inland, and i certainly don't place LV on the "west coast" in my mind.
I agree about LV, but it's not in a state that actually touches the ocean.

I don't have a strong opinion about whether Atlanta is an "east coast city" but I do consider it part of the east. I think most people would agree with that, but what makes it a little weird is that Atlanta sits directly south of the Midwest, not the Northeast.
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In my mind, east coast is generally anything east of the Appalachian mountains. However, I'm not using the term "coastal".
I like this definition.
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I agree about LV, but it's not in a state that actually touches the ocean.
others have mentioned the whole "atlanta is in a state that touches the ocean" thing too.

that doesn't really resonate with me because i'm from chicago, and we don't think in terms of "states".

again, no right or wrong answers here, just different perspectives.
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uh yeah east coast to me means *does the city or metro have a port on the atlantic*
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never ever ever have i thought of atlanta as being an east coast city. its way up on a plateau in the interior, a rail city built like a leggy, supercharged kansas city.
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to qualify - a port or harbor historically or currently directly navigable by ocean going vessels within a reasonable distance of the atlantic.
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Washington, Boston, Miami only. No other cities on the US east coast register internationally.
Philadelphia does. No question there.
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^^If they missed "The Wire" in Europe, they missed a good show and they missed an impression of Baltimore, R&D capital of America ( ).
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to qualify - a port or harbor historically or currently directly navigable by ocean going vessels within a reasonable distance of the atlantic.
Then Montreal makes the list

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Philadelphia does. No question there.
I think Philly should resonate, but I suspect it doesn't.

I think Philly would get blank stares among most Germans. They might know Rocky and Philly cream cheese.
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to qualify - a port or harbor historically or currently directly navigable by ocean going vessels within a reasonable distance of the atlantic.

that's essentially my definition of a "coastal" city, as well.

which makes me question Washington D.C.

is it globally influential? absolutely. does it have a port capable of serving large ocean-going vessels? I honestly don't know... for example, the District Wharf doesn't seem to have room for, say, an ocean liner.
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that's essentially my definition of a "coastal" city, as well.

which makes me question Washington D.C.

is it globally influential? absolutely. does it have a port capable of serving large ocean-going vessels? I honestly don't know... for example, the District Wharf doesn't seem to have room for, say, an ocean liner.
historically it was navigable to ocean going vessels, however, and technically still is.
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I think Philly should resonate, but I suspect it doesn't.

I think Philly would get blank stares among most Germans. They might know Rocky and Philly cream cheese.
Perhaps among the population that doesn't know the sun is a star but i suspect most people have heard of Philly. I never went anywhere overseas and people not know about Houston. Even more obscure than Philly.
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Philadelphia doesn’t really register here, and I’m in an English-speaking country.

And Brits would only know Baltimore if they have access to an American Netflix account and watched The Wire, or are a big fan of Edward VIII.

Of course I am talking about the average reasonably informed person here. I work with a lot of pharmaceutical companies and so both are more well-known, but that’s industry-specific.

Houston resonates more than either because oil and Texas.
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that's essentially my definition of a "coastal" city, as well.

which makes me question Washington D.C.

is it globally influential? absolutely. does it have a port capable of serving large ocean-going vessels? I honestly don't know... for example, the District Wharf doesn't seem to have room for, say, an ocean liner.
If we are debating whether Washington DC is an East Coast city, then SSP has reached a new level of pedantry. It’s part of Bos-Wash. That is the East Coast.
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Philadelphia doesn’t really register here, and I’m in an English-speaking country.
Maybe they need to re-read the Declaration of Independence from there.
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^ Selective memory with Philly and the Brits. It was that blasted city where those quarrelsome colonists got together cracked some bell and then invented cheesesteaks.

As for Texas it's pretty well known everywhere and I have to explain to people in Paris that I do not have a horse and then there's Dallas...because of this guy and this guy but Houston, not as much.
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that's essentially my definition of a "coastal" city, as well.

which makes me question Washington D.C.

is it globally influential? absolutely. does it have a port capable of serving large ocean-going vessels? I honestly don't know... for example, the District Wharf doesn't seem to have room for, say, an ocean liner.
I'd say that if the city experiences tides, it qualifies as coastal. Therefore, DC counts.
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I find it still interesting and amazing that outside the Bos-Wash area, the most notable city on the East Coast coastally is Miami.


Most of the other major Southern cities are either inland in the Appalachian/ Piedmont highlands and surrounding areas ( Atlanta, Nashville, Charlotte), on the Mississippi (New Orleans, Memphis), part of the Gulf Coast ( New Orleans again, Tampa, Houston via Galveston) or in Texas ( Dallas, San Antonio).

Although Savannah and Charleston do exist, they aren't as populated and notable at the coast as Miami. I wonder why the lower East Coast has developed in such way like that.
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