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Apathanoia · #**3581** Posted **Sep 23, 2008, 1:45 AM**

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Originally Posted by 37TimPPG

It's really difficult to say at the moment how everything will work out. It is in NO ONE'S interest to have a 16-acre hole in lower Manhattan. New York City needs this area to be developed AND completed as quickly as possible.

OK, Mayor Bloomberg....time to crack the whip

But doing so...could that mean 16 acres, zero (non-government) tenants?
Who knows how long this crisis will last...2 years, 5 years, maybe a Second Great Depression, maybe a Japanese-style bear market, maybe Zimbabwe-style hyperinflation.

Maybe the WTC will be scaled back...FT/1 WTC loses its spire/antenna, while 2-4 are half their height, and the DB site is a park? Chicago Spire may be scrapped or reduced 50%? I don't know, but I am kind of paranoid about the economy and pessimistic about all of this.

Lt. Washburn · #**3582** Posted **Sep 23, 2008, 8:44 AM**

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Originally Posted by jjk1103

......given the meltdown in the economy over the last month......we may all be looking at the WTC "big hole" for many years to come.........no matter how this is funded, it's going to cost NYC a lot of money.......and I think NYC just had a "big hole" put in its' budget.......

I'd find it unlikely that the freedom tower and the memorial wouldn't be finished. I don't have a good reason to believe the other buildings won't get built, but they're more believable for getting delayed somehow.

RockMont · #**3583** Posted **Sep 23, 2008, 5:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by jjk1103

......given the meltdown in the economy over the last month......we may all be looking at the WTC "big hole" for many years to come.........no matter how this is funded, it's going to cost NYC a lot of money.......and I think NYC just had a "big hole" put in its' budget.......

http://www.wtc.com/news/port--wtc-to...inancial-storm

nygirl1 · #**3584** Posted **Sep 23, 2008, 11:13 PM**

Lt. Washburn, don't you know? It is so in fashion to panic. I don't think jjk will see much of a slow down in NYC.

PhxPavilion · #**3585** Posted **Sep 24, 2008, 12:30 AM**

Considering the dumbasses in our government are wasting upwards of a trillion of the taxpayers dollars bailing out the morons running our banks I think it's unlikely the FT is in any danger of not being completed, especially considering the spotlight on it.

CHAPINM1 · #**3586** Posted **Sep 24, 2008, 5:08 AM**

Taken by me Sunday around 4:00 PM at ground level. I'd probably say were now up to 20 to 30 feet...

photoLith · #**3587** Posted **Sep 24, 2008, 5:24 AM**

Only 1337 feet to go!

Patrick · #**3588** Posted **Sep 24, 2008, 5:30 AM**

Oh lordy what a failure.

CHAPINM1 · #**3589** Posted **Sep 24, 2008, 5:40 AM**

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Originally Posted by photolitherland

Only 1337 feet to go!

More like 1,736...

NYC4Life · #**3590** Posted **Sep 24, 2008, 4:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by CHAPINM1

More like 1,736...

...And 5 more years

37TimPPG · #**3591** Posted **Sep 24, 2008, 5:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by NYC4Life

...And 5 more years

Patience, my friends!.....patience.....

NYC4Life · #**3592** Posted **Sep 24, 2008, 5:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by 37TimPPG

Patience, my friends!.....patience.....

Difficult to have patience after seven long years

Lt. Washburn · #**3593** Posted **Sep 24, 2008, 7:25 PM**

Will they build through winter. Do constructions sites shut down when it snows?

theWatusi · #**3594** Posted **Sep 24, 2008, 7:45 PM**

They will build all year long

androo3 · #**3595** Posted **Sep 25, 2008, 4:15 AM**

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Originally Posted by NYC4Life

Difficult to have patience after seven long years

They built Burj in less time

CGII · #**3596** Posted **Sep 25, 2008, 2:31 PM**

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Originally Posted by androo3

They built Burj in less time

They also built the Burj with near slave labour in an environment where safety precautions are relaxed. Also the Burj was not built to be explosion proof or built on a majour transit hub. So really you are comparing apples to oranges.

In any case, I was watching the sunrise from DUMBO the other day and I was thinking about the skyline and how much it is going to change over the next few years. Everyone should just settle down and enjoy it the way it is now, it's in a very rare state, between World Trade Centers. Today will be, historically, that short and awkward period in the history of the downtown NY skyline where there were no Twin Towers but there also wasn't a new WTC. Like how there was a brief time where there was a Chrysler Building but no ESB. It's a unique period, historically, and we should be enjoying it while it lasts.

Bergenser · #**3597** Posted **Sep 25, 2008, 2:35 PM**

Good to see it rising!
We have waited long enough.

Surrealplaces · #**3598** Posted **Sep 25, 2008, 6:22 PM**

It's taking a long time, but now that it's above ground we should see it start moving faster.

ardecila · #**3599** Posted **Sep 25, 2008, 6:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by PhxPavilion

Considering the dumbasses in our government are wasting upwards of a trillion of the taxpayers dollars bailing out the morons running our banks I think it's unlikely the FT is in any danger of not being completed, especially considering the spotlight on it.

People love to blame the banks for screwing up our economy, and set this up as an us vs. them situation. None of you realize that the individual prosperity of Americans is directly linked to the financial well-being of banks and other financial institutions...

The better the situation of your bank, the more likely they are to extend you that loan on the bigger house or nicer car - major purchases and uses of credit that nearly ALL Americans require today. Even if you have good enough credit to get that loan/mortgage you need in this economy, you're probably getting a higher interest rate.

NYC4Life · #**3600** Posted **Sep 26, 2008, 12:47 AM**

More rebars in place

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