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Originally Posted by Le Charbonneur
I am obsessed by urban decay, you are obsessed by redevelopment.......
We'll never be agree lol.....
Sure i focus on decay it's the title of my thread, whatever, i was clear about la Chapelle/Stalingrad, if you read between the pics i said most of the area has been renovated and i've shown before/after examples.....
Your pics of Plaine Saint-Denis are 500M south west of mine and that's a big difference if you really know the neighborhood. Read again my first answer to you about my pics of Landy area....
I had a look at your old thread about Aubervilliers and you made a prowess: I thinked i was in Issy Les Moulineaux (a pretty middle class suburb south of Paris) with just a bit more "brown" people....
I tease you.....
You're still welcome...
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I understand the point of this thread and I don't necessary disagree with that.
This is why I helped you to post your pics but in my opinion, it needed a few explanation.
This what I give.
I am not that obseded with urban redevelopment, infact I am not so a fan of many new building built in Plaine Saint Denis area, especially the office buildings.
Not enough retail space in the ground floors, so the area near the the RER D station is quite empty even in the middle of the day despite the number of office workers office.
There is nothing to do.
It seems closer to a dense version of a suburban office park district than a real urban district.
I wait for more pictures of urban decay's in Paris area, there is some good areas for this in Gennevilliers.
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Originally Posted by mousquet
I was thinking these didn't look bad at all. I think that's some of the early 20th century brick we're quite used to and I like it. They're not going to demolish them, right?
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In my those big bricks building will stay.
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Originally Posted by lio45
Thanks for the info! But I have to say, I'm still skeptical that the dire urban scenes shown in Le Charbonneur's pics can be coexistent with successfully rehabbed areas. That kind of decay usually has deep roots and reversing it is a very hard and long process... so all in all, I wasn't really surprised to hear that your St Denis pics are actually ~0.5 km away and from a different type of sector altogether.
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I could find the same things just next to place where Le Charbonneur pics and in my opinion, it is exactly the same area.
I agree that redevelopement take times but it is definitively happening.
Infact many of the shabby buildings are just waiting demolition for a bigger redevelopement of the area.
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Originally Posted by Le Charbonneur
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This is exactly the same place that the quoted picture from an other angle.
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Originally Posted by Le Charbonneur
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Originally Posted by lio45
Are there private developers active in rehabbing those areas (rue de Landy between St Ouen/Aubervilliers, I gather...) ? Or is it only government-funded brand new commie blocks, one at a time?
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Both private and public.
Those areas are quite attractive to developpers, cheap lands close to Central Paris and quite well served by public transportation.