NEW YORK | One World Trade Center | 1,776' Pinnacle / 1,373' Roof | 108 FLOORS - Page 619

STR · #**12361** Posted **Feb 17, 2011, 4:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by NYCLuver

I need some paper towels and some Windex, STAT!

Traynor · #**12362** Posted **Feb 17, 2011, 6:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by jthornton17

such an awesome tribute to the original towers, that they made the height from the ground to the roof the same as the original 1 wtc. ...

Speaking of the "Roof"... Since when is a parapet considered a roof? Why is the height as measured to the top of a glass parapet, counted as the roof.

All four of the new WTC towers 1 through 4 have ri-donk-ulous glass parapets that are several floors higher than the actual "You can walk around and look at the sky above" roof. Yet they call the higher height the "roof height" in official talk.

CTBUH has 3 categories for height and "Roof" is not one of them.

1) Height to Architectural Top - Includes Spires and parapets
2) Highest Occupied Floor - Public access space
3) Height to Tip - Includes antenna, flag poles and stuff

Link to CTBUH Website Criteria Page:
http://www.ctbuh.org/HighRiseInfo/Ta...S/Default.aspx

Don098 · #**12363** Posted **Feb 17, 2011, 6:33 PM**

I think these were my reactions when reading this post...

Stop talking about this. Please show some mercy. Please!

CoolCzech · #**12364** Posted **Feb 17, 2011, 9:54 PM**

So...

Anyone think that railing on the rooftop should count as structural height?

Obey · #**12365** Posted **Feb 17, 2011, 10:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by Traynor

Speaking of the "Roof"... Since when is a parapet considered a roof? Why is the height as measured to the top of a glass parapet, counted as the roof.

All four of the new WTC towers 1 through 4 have ri-donk-ulous glass parapets that are several floors higher than the actual "You can walk around and look at the sky above" roof. Yet they call the higher height the "roof height" in official talk.

CTBUH has 3 categories for height and "Roof" is not one of them.

1) Height to Architectural Top - Includes Spires and parapets
2) Highest Occupied Floor - Public access space
3) Height to Tip - Includes antenna, flag poles and stuff

Link to CTBUH Website Criteria Page:
http://www.ctbuh.org/HighRiseInfo/Ta...S/Default.aspx

When will you shut the @#$% up?

brian.odonnell20 · #**12366** Posted **Feb 17, 2011, 10:23 PM**

i remember about a year ago when steel installation for the office floors had just begun... Where did those 36 floors come from?

Traynor · #**12367** Posted **Feb 17, 2011, 10:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by Obey

When will you shut the @#$% up?

Hahahaha

Never.

You and others' schoolyard-style bullying tactics on this thread, will not dissuade me from posing honest, thought-provoking questions, worthy of posting.

The inconsistencies of New York's buildings and their official "Roof Heights" begs the question. Please note how the New York Times building's glass parapets are NOT counted as its roof height.

To outside observers this is inconsistent and needs explaining.

(Oh, and thanks for re-posting my words verbatim and in their entirety.)

sw5710 · #**12368** Posted **Feb 17, 2011, 10:36 PM**

Only 1078' till it's topped off at 1776'.

Obey · #**12369** Posted **Feb 17, 2011, 11:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by Traynor

Hahahaha

Never.

You and others' schoolyard-style bullying tactics on this thread, will not dissuade me from posing honest, thought-provoking questions, worthy of posting.

The inconsistencies of New York's buildings and their official "Roof Heights" begs the question. Please note how the New York Times building's glass parapets are NOT counted as its roof height.

To outside observers this is inconsistent and needs explaining.

(Oh, and thanks for re-posting my words verbatim and in their entirety.)

You don't understand is that no one cares. Your posting nonsense. Its annoying. Stop it.

JACKinBeantown · #**12370** Posted **Feb 17, 2011, 11:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by Obey

You don't understand is that no one cares. Your posting nonsense. Its annoying. Stop it.

The problem with speaking in absolutes is that you easily get proven wrong. It's not true that no one cares. I agree with Traynor.
I also agree that I've been guilty of having this discussion on this thread and that there is another thread for it.

p.s. - The correct spelling of "your" in this case is the contraction "you're." (And "It's.")

p.p.s. -

xnyr · #**12371** Posted **Feb 18, 2011, 1:47 AM**

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Originally Posted by JACKinNYC

The problem with speaking in absolutes is that you easily get proven wrong. It's not true that no one cares. I agree with Traynor.
I also agree that I've been guilty of having this discussion on this thread and that there is another thread for it.

p.s. - The correct spelling of "your" in this case is the contraction "you're." (And "It's.")

p.p.s. -

Thank you - Jack & Traynor

Obey · #**12372** Posted **Feb 18, 2011, 2:10 AM**

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Originally Posted by JACKinNYC

The problem with speaking in absolutes is that you easily get proven wrong. It's not true that no one cares. I agree with Traynor.
I also agree that I've been guilty of having this discussion on this thread and that there is another thread for it.

p.s. - The correct spelling of "your" in this case is the contraction "you're." (And "It's.")

p.p.s. -

This isn't about my grammar but about a stupid redundant discussion that hides any update when I check this thread. And why do you keep bringing it up? Why? It's never ending! The inclusion for the parapet as part of the roof is incredibly insignificant! Why does it matter? Traynor literally used the word 'roof' to give life to the discussion again! If you guys are so obsessed with the height of the roof, why don't you make a new thread?

Obey · #**12373** Posted **Feb 18, 2011, 2:17 AM**

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Originally Posted by xnyr

Thank you - Jack & Traynor

What were they saying that you couldn't say better for yourself?

Domamania · #**12374** Posted **Feb 18, 2011, 2:17 AM**

Can you all PLEASE stop arguing here, Lets all of us here enjoy this thread instead of seeing and reading all this hate and bikering. So lets all of us stay on subject here and non of this would continue.

Zensteeldude · #**12375** Posted **Feb 18, 2011, 2:21 AM**

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Originally Posted by Traynor

Hahahaha

Never.

You and others' schoolyard-style bullying tactics on this thread, will not dissuade me from posing honest, thought-provoking questions, worthy of posting.

The inconsistencies of New York's buildings and their official "Roof Heights" begs the question. Please note how the New York Times building's glass parapets are NOT counted as its roof height.

To outside observers this is inconsistent and needs explaining.

(Oh, and thanks for re-posting my words verbatim and in their entirety.)

I can see that you suffered by being harassed by a low class of bully.

Nothing about the official roof or spire heights has anything to do with New York officials.

If you took a minute to research anything, rather than shoot off your holyer than thou mouth you might learn something.

(Waits for the return rant.)

Obey · #**12376** Posted **Feb 18, 2011, 2:23 AM**

^^^ Thank god, someone understands. Traynor thinks he is so smart by repeatedly bringing this up.

JACKinBeantown · #**12377** Posted **Feb 18, 2011, 2:36 AM**

Gather around, everyone. It's time for a group hug.

Zensteeldude · #**12378** Posted **Feb 18, 2011, 2:57 AM**

AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!

Big hug for (((((((JACKinNYC))))))))

No one should take themselves too seriously here or anywhere else.

AutoBrad · #**12379** Posted **Feb 18, 2011, 3:19 AM**

This question also probably doesn't belong in this thread, but here goes: I was walking though my small town the other day and noticed some large ice chunks that had fallen from one of our modest 2 or 3 story buildings. I thought that it could have done a lot of damage had someone been under it when it fell.

Then I wondered: Does a skyscraper like this one have any sort of ice mitigation system? I can imagine ice falling from a building of this height into a populated plaza would spell disaster! A problem you would think happens all over NYC, but yet I've never heard of a single account of it.

uakoops · #**12380** Posted **Feb 18, 2011, 3:43 AM**

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Originally Posted by AutoBrad

This question also probably doesn't belong in this thread, but here goes: I was walking though my small town the other day and noticed some large ice chunks that had fallen from one of our modest 2 or 3 story buildings. I thought that it could have done a lot of damage had someone been under it when it fell.

Then I wondered: Does a skyscraper like this one have any sort of ice mitigation system? I can imagine ice falling from a building of this height into a populated plaza would spell disaster! A problem you would think happens all over NYC, but yet I've never heard of a single account of it.

It does happen, and occasionally they have to close some streets (and even bridges) because of it.

Here's a recent example http://www.dnainfo.com/20110202/manh...harous-commute.