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I'm sure there will be mixed feelings on this, but it BETTERS our city.

Project gives public housing curb appeal

By Julie Arrington
Montgomery Advertiser




Ceramic tile. Ceiling fans. Underground utilities. Community center.

If this doesn't sound like public housing, well, that's the goal.

All four phases of Tulane Gardens, a public housing project on Hall Street, will be complete by the end of the month. Tenants will move in by June 1. The development consists of 52 buildings with 102 apartments.

Bill Burnett of Dawson Building Contractors in Rainbow City, the company hired to build the development, said the apartment buildings are worth about $250,000 each and the entire project about $12 million. The development was paid for through the Montgomery Housing Authority's capital improvements fund.

"This is a far cry from any public housing I've ever seen," Burnett said. "I didn't see anything this good when I was in college."

The land where the new project is standing originally was part of Victor Tulane Court. Charles Bailey, modernization coordinator for the Montgomery Housing Authority, said tenants who lived there before and kept their apartments up are eligible for new apartments. There will also be a waiting list for those who qualify.

"We've been trying to change the image of public housing," Bailey said. "Most of our projects are very old and dense and were built back in the 1940s and 50s. We wanted to get something updated and more along the lines of what the average person in Montgomery looks for in apartments."


The units include two-, three- and four-bedroom apartments that are all-electric. When finished, they will have refrigerators, dishwashers and other much-needed amenities. The apartments also have washer and dryer hook-ups, closet and storage space and the bathroom floors are all done with ceramic tile. Some of the units have ceiling fans in the living rooms. The units have underground utilities.

Montgomery carpenter Ernest Yelder has worked on the project since its inception two years ago. He agrees with Burnett that the development will make a nice home for its new tenants.

"These are like townhouses really," Yelder said. "They are nice, definitely nice."

The complex also has a community center with offices for the project and maintenance managers, a kitchen and a meeting room that can be divided in half for separate events.
Will the ppl that live in here just be "given" these apartments and be allowed to do as they wish with no modivation for upkeep?

That's my biggest worry; that this is not a solution to the BEHAVIORS of the ppl that live in the area.
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Will the ppl that live in here just be "given" these apartments and be allowed to do as they wish with no modivation for upkeep?

That's my biggest worry; that this is not a solution to the BEHAVIORS of the ppl that live in the area.
I actually think this may be for people that are gradually increasing there income and can step into "affordable" housing... in the report it says there is plenty of plan for maintenance and unkeep. I think this is a positive thing for that area of the city, and hopefully it's a growing trend.
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I actually think this may be for people that are gradually increasing there income and can step into "affordable" housing... in the report it says there is plenty of plan for maintenance and unkeep. I think this is a positive thing for that area of the city, and hopefully it's a growing trend.
Ok see now I'm on board for that; as long as it's like that.
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EastChase Shoppes and Plaza Acquired by NP/I&G Institutional Retail Company, LLC


Montgomery, Ala – Jim Wilson & Associates, Inc. (JW&A) and Alfa Insurance Companies (Alfa) of Montgomery announced today that they have agreed to sell their interest in The Shoppes at EastChase and The Plaza at EastChase in Montgomery to NP/I&G Institutional Retail Company, LLC, a joint venture between New Plan Excel Realty Trust, Inc. and JPMorgan Fleming Asset Management. New Plan Excel Realty, based in New York, is one of the nation’s largest real estate companies, focusing on the ownership and management of community and neighborhood shopping centers. The company operates as a self-administered and self-managed REIT, with a national portfolio of 466 properties, including 150 properties held through joint ventures. Jim Wilson and Associates, Inc. and partner Alfa developed EastChase; a 330-acre master planned development adjacent to Interstate 85 between Taylor Road and Chantilly Parkway in East Montgomery. The first phase, The Shoppes at EastChase, opened in November 2002. The 432,000 square foot Shoppes, the first open-air design regional lifestyle center in the region, is anchored by Dillard’s, Books-A-Million and Linens ‘N Things and over 50 specialty retailers, many of which are exclusive to the area. The Plaza at EastChase, the 200,000 square foot power center adjacent to The Shoppes at EastChase is home to Montgomery’s only Target and Kohl’s stores. Tenants also include PETsMART, Ross Dress for Less, Pier I, World Market, Dress Barn, Rack Room Shoes, Sport Clips, rue 21 and Sally’s. The Plaza opened in October 2003. JW&A and Alfa retain the ownership of approximately 170 acres in the EastChase development to be developed for retail, office and multi-family use. Future plans call for the construction of a 500,000 square foot retail power center, 15 retail outparcels, 500,000 square feet of office space and multi-family residential units. Since its founding in 1975 by Jim Wilson, Jr., JW&A has developed and managed over 21 million square feet of commercial space in nine southeastern states including such premiere properties as the 2.4 million square foot Riverchase Galleria in Birmingham, Alabama and the first open-air regional lifestyle center in the Memphis, Tennessee area, The Avenue Carriage Crossing, that opened October 19, 2005. Alfa Properties, Inc., an affiliate of the Alfa Insurance Companies, is among the leading development and investment companies for commercial, residential and industrial properties in the state of Alabama. The company owns and operates more than 24 properties and investments in Alabama, Florida, Texas and the District of Columbia. “We are proud to be partners with the Wilson’s and look forward to the full development of EastChase,” said Kevin L. Ketzler, President of Alfa Properties, Inc. “New Plan is an excellent company with industry leading retail expertise” said Will Wilson, Vice President for Development for Jim Wilson & Associates, Inc. New Plan’s other properties are strategically located across 39 states and include 446 community and neighborhood shopping centers, primarily grocery or name-brand discount chain anchored.
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Is this necessarily a good thing?

I thought it was a bad move at first, but then understood that Jim Wilson sold it to invest in other parts of his EastChase development. In fact he is about to add another shopping center there called EastChase Market Center (500,000 sq ft).

Also, I talked to Planning director Ken Groves last Thursday about development along a new road between Ray Thorington and Taylor Roads, and he said that Wilson is planning another huge mixed-use development along the new road just south of Ray Thorington.
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Ok.... now it's time for someone to explain "sprawl" to me and how is it going to benefit Montgomery? We seem to be nearing 100% urban development in the city of Montgomery.
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To me, sprawl just means a strain on a city's infrastructure. Unfortunately, much of a city's tax revenue comes from its sprawling areas moreso than from its urban core (sales tax from shopping centers and property tax from high value real estate).

And until peoples' mindset begins to change, sprawl has become sort of a necessary evil for tax revenue. But when it's so out of control, the tax revenue that's generated by it gets eaten up just to try to provide infrastructure for the sprawl itself. So, back to square one...
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Here's a different pic of the new convention center hotel and performing arts theater from the Montgomery Advertiser...

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Very impressive. Looks like something in a BIG city.
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A few Hyundai related articles.......

This one shows plans and development for the South & West side like discussed earlier in the thread.


Hyundai may revive Montgomery's west side

By Sebastian Kitchen
Montgomery Advertiser


Gateway Park

The financial might of Hyundai's car manufacturing plant could energize a struggling economy in Montgomery's west side and the corridor along Interstate 65, elected officials and business experts say.
Amid a sprinkling of new companies to the area, business coalitions have formed to tap into the promise of a larger development payday. They hope Hyundai Motor Manufacturing America's choice of location and giant payroll could help reverse what many people believe has been a decades-long neglect on the west side as east Montgomery continues to flourish.

"It really is going to drive economic development," said Ellen McNair, vice president of corporate development for the Montgomery Area Chamber of Commerce.

Along with Hyundai came a stream of automotive suppliers. Of those that landed in Montgomery, nearly all are housed along the I-65 corridor, bringing throngs of employees, vendors and other visitors daily into the city's west side.

In the past three to four years, there has been $1.7 billion in development in the I-65 corridor. Most is linked to Hyundai and some of its suppliers, but Popeye's Chicken and Biscuit, 84 Lumber and the Gas Depot also are among newcomers.

McNair said Hyundai's location in Montgomery was a factor in Continental Airlines' decision to start flights from Montgomery Regional Airport. The carrier began offering twice-daily direct service between Montgomery and Houston this month.

The most visual evidence of progress is the construction of Gateway Park, said Keith Karst, area manager for Alabama Power and chairman of the I-65 Corridor Development Task Force, created by the Montgomery Area Chamber of Commerce to stimulate west side commercial growth.

"That will be something to visually improve that area and hopefully encourage other investments and development on this side of town," Karst said.

Work continues on the complex, which will include a nine-hole golf course and fields for football, soccer, baseball and softball. There also will be a pavilion, a lodge and lakes.

The Montgomery Regional Airport is undergoing a $32 million renovation. Work to widen Interstate 65 from the Alabama River bridge to U.S. 80 will begin later this year to relieve existing congestion and to handle the constant stream of trucks that soon will traverse the city to serve Hyundai and its suppliers.

Aerial of Gateway


Mayor Bobby Bright said about eight hotels have located in Montgomery since the Hyundai announcement, although not all of them are directly related to the plant. He said more are looking seriously at building in the city, but only a few are locating along Interstate 65.

Although there is no hard data to prove there is a demand for housing on the west wide, Realtor Sandra Nickel believes the new jobs created by Hyundai will ignite that interest.

The demand could be used as a tool to help find financing for a new development, she said. Two or three developers have approached property owners on Interstate 65 about mixed use of the land, she said.

"The slow pace at which this is occurring is frustrating for a lot of us, but we understand this is the nature of the beast," said Nickel, who co-chairs the housing subcommittee of the I-65 Corridor Development Task Force.

"It is just as expensive to build in west Montgomery as it is in east Montgomery," she said. "Right now, the market does not seem willing to pay as much for a house in west Montgomery as east Montgomery."

Most officials agree that Hyundai alone cannot create an economic renaissance on the west side. That is why business coalitions have formed to resolve other root impediments to future growth. Activism among businesses and efforts to improve perceptions of the area are key elements of their platforms.

"The members of the committee truly believe for there to be any significant change in west Montgomery and this corridor, the people that run businesses and live there have to be fully engaged in the process," said Karst, the I-65 Development Task Force chairman.

The West Fairview Business Coalition and the South Boulevard Business Coalition are taking those measures. The groups comprise owners and managers of businesses in the area.

The coalitions meet with city traffic, engineering, and planning and development departments to discuss how to improve the environment and business climate along West Fairview, said Lee Willcoxin. He is a property and business owner in west Montgomery and a member of the West Fairview Business Coalition.

Willcoxin said there are several new businesses along Fairview and several are among the top producers in their chains.


INTEREST IN THE INTERSTATE

Investment and interest in the Interstate 65 corridor and west Montgomery continues.

Investment has totaled more than $1.7 billion and added more than 3,900 jobs

The Hyundai investment is $1 billion

New investment in downtown Montgomery and the riverfront is about $786 million

Several Hyundai suppliers have located in the area and invested about $180 million

Development continues along West Fairview Avenue and South Boulevard with $8.2 million in new and expanded capital investment. There are plans for an additional $55.2 million over the next five years.

Interstate 65 is the most traveled corridor in the city and the only north- south corridor

Source: I-65 Corridor Development Task Force

"One thing about Fairview Avenue is it is a very densely populated and underserved market," he said. "The businesses that are over there are very successful."

Improving the perception of Fairview Avenue is a key component of further growth.

"We're trying to clean up the area, make it look better, make sure any vacant lots are kept clean and keep the trash off of the ground," Willcoxin said.

Willcoxin said in the years he has been in business on Fairview there have been minimal problems with crime despite some contrary perceptions.

"It is really just a good place to do business," he said. "There is a lot of traffic. It is a heavily traveled area."

Some days Fairview Avenue has more traffic than South Boulevard with more than 20,000 cars per day traveling on the street.

Shana Beck, a member of the South Boulevard Business Coalition and an owner of Wood's RV and Campground, said the area has a lot of potential.

"The perception of this side of town is really what you want to see changed," Beck said. "It is not as bad as everybody thinks it is."

She said she has had no problems in the nine months she has

But Pat Latham and her husband have endured the same problem other Montgomery motorists encounter daily -- a continued increase of traffic.

Since they moved outside the city limits to Snowdoun Chambers Road in 1992, "It has changed a lot," she said. The neighborhood is within a few miles of the Hyundai and supplier plants, and it's buzzing with traffic.

The Lathams look forward to the building of the outer loop, a limited-access, interstate-quality highway intended to relieve some of the traffic congestion in Montgomery.

"It'll have a good bit of impact until they get the outer loop built on account of that traffic coming through there," Latham said of the Hyundai-related traffic. "The outer loop will straighten a lot of it out."

She believes the plant will be positive for the neighborhood, which has continued to grow. Several houses have been built in the last two years, Latham said.

But with all that traffic comes potential shoppers, a necessary element of the master commercial development plan.

"We view the Hyundai project as a southern bookend and the downtown redevelopment as a northern bookend, and we will try to fill in in between," said Robert Gilpin, a local attorney and chairman of the economic development subcommittee of the Interstate 65 Corridor Committee.

Gilpin, who has been working with the corridor committee for five years, said some residents have yet to feel the impact, which will continue to increase as the plant boosts production.

City Councilman James Nuckles agrees. There has been positive growth around automotive plants in other cities, he said.

"We expect the same in our area and in southwest Montgomery, which lends itself to favorable growth," he said. Nuckles said land on the west side is cheaper, and there's access to the interstate, railways and water.

Nuckles and Bright said they are willing to offer incentives to bring business to the area.

"Everything you can imagine is what we're interested in doing," Bright said. "We will do everything we can financially to make it happen."
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Rural Hope Hull lifestyle in jeopardy

By Dan E. Way
Montgomery Advertiser


Benny Hitch came putting around the corner on the riding mower he just repaired, bursting with enthusiasm through an impressive sea of weeds.
His older brother, Andy, was not far behind, parking his pickup in front of the two-story house with mammoth white columns to contribute a can of gasoline to the grass-cutting cause.

It was just another country afternoon on the sprawling family estate in Hope Hull, where the brothers were reared decades ago.

That rural lifestyle could be altered irrevocably because of what's just across the highway -- a skyline that is the Hyundai Motor Manufacturing Alabama plant. "For sale" signs are omnipresent in this tiny community. Prospective buyers have been crawling all over the landscape. The choicest spots of land soon might fetch more than $20,000 an acre. Everything from hotels to restaurants and retail stores are popping up or rumored to be coming.

"As far as the impact, time will tell" whether there will be a local business and building boom spun off from the Hyundai plant, said Benny Hitch, a manager with the state Department of Agriculture. "Is reality going to be what the anticipation was? I don't know."

"My take on it is when I left to go to Kosovo with the (National) Guard it was a two-lane country road" in front of his house, the former Blackhawk helicopter pilot said. "When I came back it was a four-lane, so change is coming whether we want it or not. Hopefully, it will be good."

He has had offers for his 320 acres, but there was not enough money to tempt him to part with the property his father bought in 1945, the year before Benny Hitch was born.

"I have a time plan and a money plan," he said, and neither are right just yet.

Brother Andy, a builder for Lowder Homes, said his wife frets about an explosion of development, but he's not losing sleep over it.

"Go to Spring Hill, Tennessee. It's just developing there. How long has Saturn been there?" he said. That plant began production in 1990.

And whatever business growth may befall the area he's called home for all or parts of seven decades, he is doubtful it will get his business.

"I shop in specialty stores," he said. "Probably what I'm interested in wouldn't come down here."


Gaines Slade leases space to Burger King and Subway franchises amid his gas pumps and store.

Exactly what plans are on the horizon, or even proposed for a sweeping patch of prairie near the Hitch homestead, are guarded zealously.

Shawn Saylor of Re/Max All-Stars in Atlanta said he found a buyer for land with 7,000 feet of frontage road near the Hitch place.

"We do have a contract on it," Saylor said, without naming the buyer, the price or the proposed use. "There's not a whole lot I'm allowed to say."


What he would divulge was the interest displayed in the land.

"We've had a tremendous number of phone calls and interest in that land over there. It seems like so many different groups, both residential and commercial, multifamily and industrial. About every call you could think of has come in," Saylor said.

In this tight-knit corner of the county, where everyone knows everyone else, speculation ran rampant in mid-April that Jim Henry, who advertised his property on the south side of the four-lane Hyundai Boulevard, also made a deal.

"I can't comment on that. It's all confidential," Henry said. "It's still on the market."

On the other end of the conversational spectrum, Gaines Slade is more than eager to talk about his ambitious vision.

He owns Slide's Kountry Korner, a country-style plaza just off the Hope Hull exit of Interstate 65, where he leases space to Burger King and Subway franchises amid his gas pumps and convenience store.

Slade said by next March he plans to open a "really upscale" tire and rim store that also will sell four-wheel-drive vehicle accessories such as bumpers, winches, tools and steps. It will have 10 installation bays in which to work on vehicles. The architecture will be California showroom style -- an oval-shaped building with a lobby leading to the store's showroom, and leased office space surrounding that.

The offices could be from 1,000 to 2,000 square feet or built to order. The building could be two or three stories -- or higher, if zoning allows.

Slade plans to build a two- or three-story, climate-controlled storage building and is helping one of his employees to finance a barbecue, fish and soul food eatery nearby. He said he has received "some real strong nibbles" from a firm interested in opening a medical clinic on his property.

"Everybody thinks I'm crazy" with so many plans, Slade said, but he's convinced it's a good investment. "We're going to be a little city down here. Ten years from now, this is going to be a booming area."

Mark Dauber of John Stanley & Associates, which is selling lots near Slade's complex, has similar thoughts.

"We are fixing to put 'Sales pending' signs up on two of those lots," Dauber said. "You've got another motel interested in going there, which looks like that will happen, and probably a convenience store situation."

He believes even more growth is on the way.

"All the big food people are looking down there right now, McDonald's, Arby's and Wendy's," he said. Once Hyundai is in full operation, "More people are going to be driving past that corner, a very predictable pattern, and people in the business community like predictable patterns."

Dauber, an 18-year resident of the Hope Hull area, does not believe there will be a run on residential housing.

"People are generally going to want to live where the rest of the people live" so they can be close to things such as a YMCA, shopping malls and schools, he said.

Grant Sullivan, co-owner of Sullivan & Wills Real Estate, is not so sure about that.

He is marketing a 330-acre slice of property across Hyundai Boulevard from the Hyundai Training Center.

"That piece, we're thinking, is going to be about $20,000 to $22,000 an acre," Sullivan said.

Developers from Atlanta and Montgomery have contacted him about the land, he said, but have not come up with the right offers.

"They're probably going to put up some residential, some apartments, some retail, some commercial, warehouses," he said. "They're telling us that's what they're looking for."


Sullivan has some definite notions about what could be coming.

"I think that there will be opportunities for banks, financial institutions that will want to service the people who live and work out in the area. I see some fast-food restaurants that would want to feed those people, (and) there's a possibility for a hotel," for leased offices and warehouses, he said.
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Hyundai ignites tri-county real estate market

By Dan E. Way
Montgomery Advertiser



Clear out that clutter in the garage. That may be prime rental space when the Hyundai job boom depletes all the available lodging in the tri-county area.

At least that's the prediction by Glenn Ferguson, president of Cascade Realty Trust in Salt Lake City, who has been steering tens of millions of dollars in rental business here from around the nation.

And the economic cycle that has Montgomery bursting at the seams could grow even larger as Alabama's Hyundai-enhanced image is projected onto the global market, according to Sam Addy, associate director for the Center for Business and Economic Research at the University of Alabama.

"For people to be attracted to a place, they need to know about a place," Addy said of one of the first rules in economic development. "Having all this interaction with the rest of the world provides us with more opportunities for development."

"And in Asia, we now have a face. You're talking Japan, Korea, Hong Kong and the big China," all of which could increase trade with Alabama as a result, he said.

For now, what's changing hands at a dizzying pace is local real estate.

"What I think you're going to see in the next year is very little vacancy in rental. You're going to see home prices spike, you're going to see rental prices going up," Ferguson said. "There's going to be a housing shortage. We anticipate people might be renting out their garage because there is such a demand."

If that sounds far-fetched, Ferguson, an economic analyst with an advanced degree in real estate, has heard it before. His company has earned a reputation for identifying cities that are about to mushroom, and getting in ahead of the crowd to meet the needs of its real estate investment clients.

But don't just take his word for it. Ask Mark Dauber of the local John Stanley & Associates real estate firm.

"So far he's been dead on the nail, and it's been pretty impressive," Dauber said. "Since they first came here, we have probably sold $40 million in multifamily housing."

Ferguson said that figure is probably a conservative one. John Stanley & Associates represents about 90 percent of the business his firm has transacted in the Montgomery area as of mid-April.

Dauber said the investors working with his office are snapping up properties throughout the tri-county area.

"I've seen people coming in here buying duplexes and fourplexes that rent for $450 and $500 a month, and now they're getting $700 and they're not doing anything to fix them up," he said.

"You've got a mom and pop coming in from Syracuse, New York, buying an eightplex and hiring a manager to manage it," Dauber said. "There's a lot of people from out of town crawling all over this city."

The housing crunch is only going to grow worse as Hyundai and its supplier plants shift into full production, Ferguson said.

"For every Hyundai-related employee, there will probably be four to five service employees" hired in nonautomotive businesses as the local economy brims with the multimillion-dollar auto industry payrolls, he said.

"People have more money circulating in Montgomery and they're going to go out and spend it," Ferguson said. That is why Wal-Mart and Publix are adding stores here.

"They're doing that because they know what we know, and that is the ripple effect of all this Hyundai growth is going to be spread through the community," he said. Smaller businesses also will reap the rewards. For example, a doctor's office may need another nurse or two and a certified public accountant might add staff members, he said.

Using a conservative projection, there would be 7,000 automotive jobs and 28,000 total new jobs created, Ferguson said.

"Those are staggering numbers, I know," he said. Many of those new employees will come from outside Montgomery and will need housing.

To accommodate that demand, Ferguson said, downtown apartments will open up. Condominiums will explode on the scene and urban renewal will continue the trend already begun in Cloverdale and Highland, where young couples buy old, deteriorating homes and fix them up because that is the most affordable housing they will be able to find.

Meanwhile, Keivan Deravi, professor of economics at Auburn University Montgomery, conducted an economic impact analysis that, he has said, shows all Hyundai-related jobs will generate an estimated $280 million in new income, and $85 million to $90 million in new retail sales. He has predicted that Montgomery County's population may multiply from 223,510 in 2000 to 350,000 by 2025.

All of that is hard for Corrine Pettaway to swallow, even though she lives in the just-built and already filled Chase Park Apartments in Montgomery.

"I just don't see it," she said. "They say a lot of stuff, but it just don't happen."

But Linda Phillips of Deatsville is a believer and sees every indication that new growth will rock Millbrook, where she just opened Oak & Ivy Dreams wedding and reception center on Main Street.

"I think this community is ready to explode," Phillips said. "The attitude of the community is we have welcomed the newcomers with open arms."

Her husband, Carl, is seeing the residual benefits of the Hyundai phenomenon. He recently bought the Lakeside Country Club in Tallassee, and officials from the auto plant already have paid him a visit.

"They actually want to book the course three or four days a week exclusively," Phillips said.

Addy, the research economist who helps run the Center for Business and Economic Research, said the Hyundai-spawned jobs "will have a big impact in greater Montgomery instead of just looking at Hope Hull or the city."

That shotgun impact is similar to the effects of the Mercedes plant in Vance, and that's why those who claim that auto factory didn't create a boom are wrong, Addy said.

"When you're talking about Mercedes, it has had a broad impact statewide" but mostly in Jefferson and Tuscaloosa counties, Addy said. "A lot of their workers live in these two counties."

The growth of the auto industry in Alabama, which now has four plants -- the others are Honda in Lincoln and Toyota in Huntsville -- is good news for the state's ability to sell itself to overseas trade partners, Addy said.

"I think they will also help project Alabama's image very well," he said. "Investors' perception is really important in economic development. We don't want people sidestepping us and taking business to Mississippi or Georgia or Florida."

Domestically, Addy said, "As you improve the income and earnings of people in the area, it tends to indirectly affect some of these social issues."

Some workers will have health insurance for the whole family for the first time. More money should be available for schools, and infrastructure will be upgraded to allow for further growth and expansion, Addy said.

Ferguson shares that view, as well as Addy's prediction that wider trade opportunities will flow in behind the opening of Hyundai.

"Alabama is doing exceptionally well and will continue to. The jokes are not founded," he said.
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That estimated population figure of 350,000 would be Montgomery alone, and not the MSA [Metropolitan Statistical Area]. I have a feeling that 2025 is a very conservative figure there. I'd say more like by 2015. Let's not forget the three "boom" cities inside the metro: Prattville, Wetumpka, & Millbrook. Each of these areas are in the top 5 of growth in Alabama. I'd say it's safe to say that we are looking into the 500,000-750,000 in the next half-decade.
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Brown Duckz, Let Me just say you are a refreshing breath of air in this thread with your info. Don't get me wrong, I think Downtown needs to be brought to life, but it's good to see that you're willing to focus on the outlying areas of Montgomery as well. Thanks!
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Here's a map and population figures of 2005. Why isn't Lowndes county considered part of the MSA? There is a good percentage of people who live in Lowndes county and work in Montgomery.



Totals: 344,168
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Brown Duckz, Let Me just say you are a refreshing breath of air in this thread with your info. Don't get me wrong, I think Downtown needs to be brought to life, but it's good to see that you're willing to focus on the outlying areas of Montgomery as well. Thanks!
Thanks a lot. I just don't see why the only discussion happening has to be about some skyscraper, IMO that accounts for only 5% of the development in a city. I'm more interested in the numerous projects that are going to better the city I live in.
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The Lathams look forward to the building of the outer loop, a limited-access, interstate-quality highway intended to relieve some of the traffic congestion in Montgomery.
What is the timetable for the outer loop, and do you have a map of it ?
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A nice map of the river region.



With the close proximity of Lowndes county in the I-65 corridor and it's relationship to Hyundai [considering part suppliers], I'd say it's time for them to be included in the MSA. The population there isn't going to affect the metro alot currently, but development is key.
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Found a press release from January.


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SHELBY ANNOUNCES OVER $300,000 FOR MONTGOMERY OUTER LOOP


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U.S. Senator Richard Shelby (R-AL), a member of the Senate Appropriations Committee, announced today that 387,333 will be released from the Department of Transportation for continued construction of the Montgomery Outerloop.

Senator Shelby said, "These funds will provide much needed resources for design and right-of-way acquisition for the Montgomery Outerloop. This project will assist Montgomery’s efforts to further develop a safer transportation system for the area and is critical to easing the traffic issues in that area. In addition, completion of the Outerloop combined with construction of the I-85 extension stretching from Montgomery to Cuba, AL will bring significant economic development opportunities to a region of the state that has not yet reached its potential."

Senator Shelby secured these funds through the annual federal appropriations process.
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I believe that Lowndes County is part of the Montgomery MSA.
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