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20 year old carpet? Yuck! Maybe they should use carpet tile and they can replace pieces whenever.
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I hadn't even realize this building was vacant. They sure did keep up the exterior for it to have been abandoned that long and no one really notice it:

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MSU in planning stages to renovate Chittenden Hall into home for Graduate School

By Matthew Miller | Lansing State Journal

July 26, 2013

Chittenden Hall has been vacant for 14 years but not entirely unused. The chalkboards, at least, have filled up with graffiti, a surprising amount of it dated. Alongside more obscene sentiments is the scribbled entreaty to “Save this building,” which Michigan State University has finally decided to do.

Built in 1901, Chittenden is one of the oldest buildings on campus, part of the “Laboratory Row” that sits along the eastern edge of West Circle Drive.

It was the Dairy Laboratory once, as a broad side door attests, home to the Department of Forestry for 53 years and given over largely to graduate assistant offices by the time the university mothballed it in 1999. The plan is to turn it into a home for the university’s Graduate School, a single location for services now spread across three buildings, “a visible symbol of the importance of graduate education at Michigan State,” as Stefan Fletcher put it.

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“We’ll try to save as much as we can, the doors, the wood framing,” said Amr Abdel-Azim, a senior architect with MSU, gesturing at a broad wooden door frame.

The interior of the building bears the marks of disuse, plaster fallen from the ceilings, fissures in the walls, splintered patches on the wood floors.

The project “pretty much is going to be gutting everything inside the building and starting over,” Abdel-Azim said, but some of the old features are salvageable.

The plan is to add offices and social spaces for graduate students and bathrooms and an elevator, to pull out the asbestos, to make the building accessible. If plans are approved by the Board of Trustees this fall, construction should start next summer and finish in 2015.

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While much of the talk about Niowave has been around their building of a corrugated metal polebarn in the middle of the historic Walnut neighborhood in North Lansing - a controversy which after years has still yet to be addressed, and which has become the longest running city issue I've seen in years - the company has finally revealed exactly what they will be using the expansion for:

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Niowave prepares to test next-generation laser for U.S. Navy

By Matthew Miller | Lansing State Journal

July 28, 2013

Niowave Inc.’s research facility is a pre-engineered metal building that could easily be mistaken for a warehouse. Both of Michigan’s United States senators were on hand to see it dedicated last summer. Rear Adm. Matthew Klunder, the U.S. Navy’s chief of research, gave a short speech with a mound of recently excavated dirt visible behind him. Their presence wasn’t really about the photo op.

Niowave is developing a next-generation weapon for the Navy, a laser, the “Holy Grail of lasers.” The Navy wants a beam powerful enough to knock missiles out of the sky from miles off, a weapon with “an endless magazine,” as Klunder described it on the day of the dedication.

It’s called a free electron laser. It’s driven by a superconducting linear accelerator, not tremendously different from the sort Niowave founder Terry Grimm worked on as a senior physicist with Michigan State University’s National Superconducting Cyclotron Laboratory. The technology is at least a decade away from widespread use on ships, but there is a prototype inside a 50-foot concrete tunnel in Niowave’s research facility waiting to be tested.

“Our goal is to make first light at the end of July,” Grimm said.

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Some heady stuff going on at the little northside Walnut School, let me tell you. It's funny, because rumors of something big have had neighbors worried since they put the polebarn up, but they'd never tell anyone what they were doing.
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The good news? Eastside metro residents will have another upscale shopping option come 2015? The bad news? This is literally blocks from other local, inependently-owned upscale health food grocery stores. If they'd have moved this just west inside East Lansing, this would be such a better idea:

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Whole Foods coming to Meridian Township

By Matthew Miller | Lansing State Journal

August 1, 2013

MERIDIAN TWP. — A Whole Foods Market has been on the Lansing area’s wish list for years, the kind of desire that starts out, “What this place needs is” and generally ends with “or a Trader Joe’s.”

Look for some wish granting in 2015.

The Austin, Texas-based natural and organic foods supermarket chain plans to open a 35,000-square-foot store on East Grand River Avenue in Meridian Township, just over a mile from downtown East Lansing. The company expects to hire 150 local employees.

“We’re incredibly excited about the opportunity to deepen our connections within the greater Lansing community,” Michael Bashaw, the company’s Midwest regional president, said in a statement released Thursday.

Developer George Tesseris said the store will go up on a four-acre site that includes the parcel at 2778 E. Grand River Avenue, the present site of the Velocipede Peddler, but extends farther north and west.

“I think it will rejuvenate that area a little,” he said. “It will be an upswing.”

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The store’s potential competitors were predictably less enthusiastic.

The Whole Foods Market would be located near Foods for Living and the East Lansing Food Co-op, which also specialize in natural foods.

“We certainly do different things in the same general arena of natural foods,” said Dave Finet, general manager of the East Lansing Food Co-op, citing among other things the co-op’s close connections to local producers. “Certainly (Whole Foods) has opened up in communities where there are co-ops in other places. One would expect to see some effect on sales volume initially, but what’s happened in most communities is that the co-ops bounce back pretty well.”

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I have a bad feeling this will be oversaturation for such a small metro, particularly since they will be so incredibly concentrated in one end of the area. I guess the only question is who ends up going out of business?
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Looks like FRIB keeps moving forward:

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FRIB gets critical approval from Department of Energy

by Matthew Miller | Lansing State Journal

August 1, 2013

The Facility for Rare Isotope Beams at Michigan State University has received a critical approval from the U.S. Department of Energy, in effect cementing the department’s commitment to the project, and clearing the way for the start of civil construction.

Known as Critical Decision 2, “it’s a commitment on the energy department’s part that, ‘We really want to do it,’” said FRIB project manager Thomas Glasmacher. “Until now, it was, ‘Yeah, we want to do it, but we’ll see.’”

The DOE decision fixes the cost of the planned nuclear science research facility at $730 million, with $94.5 of that coming from MSU and the state. It shifts the schedule back two years, pushing the official completion date to 2022, though project leaders say they’re aiming for late 2020.

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FRIB’s superconducting linear accelerator will be at least 1,000 times more powerful than MSU’s existing cyclotrons. It should allow scientists to produce thousands of isotopes that have never existed on Earth. The hope is that studying those rare and fleeting particles will shed light on fundamental questions in nuclear physics and astrophysics.

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This thing would have started sooner, but the dicking around in Congress makes it impossible to know when we might actually start seeing anything other than prep and preliminary work on this beast.
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Looks like Meridian Township - essentially a suburb of a suburb - is really starting to rev up. It's kind of surprising considering how anti-development the township has historically been, or at least very picky in what they approve and don't approve of.

This is a interesting concept for the area.

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Huge townhouse project proposed across from MSU campus

By Dawn Paerker | Lansing State journal

August 2, 2013

MERIDIAN TWP. — A large condominium development friendly to older students, empty-nesters and seniors is being proposed across from MSU’s campus.

Hannah Lofts and Townhomes is proposed as a mixed-use planned unit development at the corner of Esoteric Way and Hannah Boulevard, adjacent to the Lodges of East Lansing apartment complexes.

Proposed is 282 dwelling units with a maximum of 702 residents, plus 7,500 square feet of retail space on the first floor.

The new project is adjacent to Lodges Phase 1 which has 683 bedrooms in six buildings and Lodges Phase 2 which has 366 bedrooms in three buildings, plus a clubhouse.


As with the Lodges, Hannah Lofts would be developed by Birmingham, Ala.-based Capstone Collegiate Communities. Capstone no longer owns the Lodges, having sold them to Texas-based American Campus Communities.

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Capstone executive vice president of development John Acken said the development would feature two- and three-story townhomes with ground-floor entrances. On the fourth floor, those wanting apartments would have their choice of studios and one, two and three-bedroom units.

Acken said the apartments would be accessible via elevator, rather than only by stairs.

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Other planned amenities include a one-acre park on the north side of the complex, with a hardscape gathering area and fountain. Acken said there would be green space for recreation activities, and all townhouses would have a large patio.

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I'm still not completely clear on how the building-top apartments will be accessed, though.
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Another massive student and young professional housing complex going up at Chandler Crossing in Bath Township (suburban East Lansing):

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August 5, 2013

BATH TWP. — A partnership that includes a local builder and a national property management firm are pitching an $80 million, mixed-use development for a 22-acre site at the Chandler Crossings complex in Bath Township.

A conceptual site plan presented last week to the Bath Township Planning Commission calls for residential buildings surrounding covered parking areas along a commercial main street, as well as restaurants and new retail space.

The development would include enclosed walkways between buildings and a pull-back cover over the main street through the complex to accommodate special events such as football games and a farmers market, Mayberry Homes President Bob Schroeder said.

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The development would occupy more than 22 acres west of Chandler Road, between Coleman Road and Hunsaker Street, at the center of the existing 2,772-bed student housing development, which includes The Club, The Village and The Landings complexes.

Bath Township Superintendent Troy Feltman said the group approached township officials with its plans more than two months ago.

The developers will have to submit a master site plan with more specifics before the Planning Commission can act on the proposal, he said.

The approval process should move fairly quickly, he said.

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The thing will be so large the developers are offering to build a police mini-station and donate it to the township upon completion. I found it strange that the article didn't say the number of units.
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I felt the need to make it known that I read this thread every time you update it, LMich. Even if I don't comment. Always good to read about new things happening in my hometown.
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Another massive student and young professional housing complex going up at Chandler Crossing in Bath Township (suburban East Lansing):



The thing will be so large the developers are offering to build a police mini-station and donate it to the township upon completion. I found it strange that the article didn't say the number of units.
2772 Beds!! Holy cow, that's huge. That's like a compact census tract in a big downtown.
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Did a bit more research and found out that this will be over 400 units. It's really a shame that East Lansing has been so anti-development in its core, that they have been central in forcing these massive student complexes outside its borders. This is nothing more than sprawl.

There is litearlly one CATA bus route (#26) that serves what has essentially become a village in Bath Township. It's funny that East Lansing basically threw in the towel on the redo of Red Cedar Village adjacent to campus, which directly contributed to sprawl to the north. I can't even imagine what it'd be like in Lansing and East Lansing if even half the housing that's been added in Bath Township and East Lansing's suburban Northern Tier had been built along or near the Michigan/Grand River Avenue corridor.
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Did a bit more research and found out that this will be over 400 units. It's really a shame that East Lansing has been so anti-development in its core, that they have been central in forcing these massive student complexes outside its borders. This is nothing more than sprawl.

There is litearlly one CATA bus route (#26) that serves what has essentially become a village in Bath Township. It's funny that East Lansing basically threw in the towel on the redo of Red Cedar Village adjacent to campus, which directly contributed to sprawl to the north. I can't even imagine what it'd be like in Lansing and East Lansing if even half the housing that's been added in Bath Township and East Lansing's suburban Northern Tier had been built along or near the Michigan/Grand River Avenue corridor.
You'd think there would be a desire to creep up Michigan into Lansing. Just ridiculous if you ask me.
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You'd think there would be a desire to creep up Michigan into Lansing. Just ridiculous if you ask me.
It blows my mind how off-limits Lansing seems when it comes to development in the Lansing-East Lansing border region. I could understand if Lansing had as many problems, as say, Flint. But there are perfectly livable areas on the eastside that could be so much better with better connection to the two city's cores.

I hope this is slightly remedied with the BRT line down Michigan, but that's still years off. It's just so strange. There really isn't any rivalry between the two cities, or any kind of deep-seated antipathy to the other. There is nothing that happened in the past that you can single out as some kind of event that changed the relationship. Everyone just seems to accept that Lansing is the government and industrial town, and that East Lansing is the collegetown, and that there is no reason to mix them despite them literally bordering one another. US-127 is a significant physical boundary, but even that doesn't really explain the psychological disconnect.
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It blows my mind how off-limits Lansing seems when it comes to development in the Lansing-East Lansing border region. I could understand if Lansing had as many problems, as say, Flint. But there are perfectly livable areas on the eastside that could be so much better with better connection to the two city's cores.

I hope this is slightly remedied with the BRT line down Michigan, but that's still years off. It's just so strange. There really isn't any rivalry between the two cities, or any kind of deep-seated antipathy to the other. There is nothing that happened in the past that you can single out as some kind of event that changed the relationship. Everyone just seems to accept that Lansing is the government and industrial town, and that East Lansing is the college town, and that there is no reason to mix them despite them literally bordering one another. US-127 is a significant physical boundary, but even that doesn't really explain the psychological disconnect.
I've definitely seen an uptick in more students on the Eastside in the last few years. I've lived here for awhile now and have never seen so many cyclists commuting down Kalamazoo daily (both directions in fact). They seem to be the more hipster/bohemian students. However, many students seem to still think of Lansing as "the ghetto". I guess that's to be expected from 45,000 naive suburban Detroit kids. Generalization, sure, but not too far off.

I agree, and hope the BRT can change the image of at least the Eastside and spur more development.
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Speaking of the Eastside, while there always seems to be talk of a "comeback", I just noticed the other day that the 2000 block of East Michigan has more vacancies I've seen in years. This is the block with Emils and the Green Door and such. I mean, it's looking rough. And, really, this has happened over just the past year, maybe even six months.

Really, if someone would just come along and develop some of the vacant lots immediately to the east of this strip, it could probably turn the strip around. I remember just a few years ago when every storefront on this block was full. I wonder what's happening, or if it's just part of the natural cycle that just so happened to have some concentrated turnover. There's been a palpable slowdown in development in the region in recent years, even while some big projects (i.e. Knapps) are taking off.
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So, after the massive student housing announced in Meridian Township and then in Bath Township, another significant housing development is announced for Bath down the street from Chandler Crossings: Orchards at Michigan State.

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"NEW BUSINESS: Preliminary Site Plan-Orchards at Michigan State

Mr. Foulds indicated that the property located at 16970 Chandler Road is an 8.2 acre parcel located south of Tim Hortons. He added that the Board of Trustees approved the first reading of the rezoning for the property to the D Development Overlay Zoning District. The intent of the proposal is to develop 62 single family home style cottages that provide 254 beds that range from 3-5 bedroom units."
This student sprawl is really taking back off since the recession. It's part of the reason why formerly rustic Bath Township is now a solidly Democratic community; they control every township-wide office. In fact, the only major township board bordering Lansing or East Lansing that is still controlled by Republicans is DeWitt Township to the north for some odd reason.
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How do these students get to class? Do they actually drive? This must have huge implications on parking accommodation on campus. I feel like this is a night and day situation from U of M where living distant from campus was considered a miserable situation and parking near campus was considered an "ultra luxury"

This all just seems to defy all trends where kids graduate, go off to school and want to live near all the action. Many ditch the car and opt to walk, bike, or take transit wherever they need to be.

I really dislike all this development. It's sprawly and suburban. Serves no good purpose for pushing higher density and upgraded transit corridors. It will encourage students to drive more, and drives the market away from sustainable, walkable and interesting communities.
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With only one bus route up that way connecting the complexes to campus, I'd imagine most students drive in, but I don't have the numbers. Parking isn't particularly convenient or cheap on campus, which makes this kind of development particularly odd. The commuter lot is huge, but it's on the far southside of campus, and you're expected to take the bus or bike into the heart of campus. As with most other campuses, I imagine, freshman aren't allowed cars on campus without some kind of compelling reason, and the bus system on campus is quite extensive. Most people get around on bus and bikes.

Still, MSU always claims to either have the largest, or one of the largest, on-campus dormitory systems in the country, so it's not as if no one lives on campus (I think it's between 15,000 to 20,000 students live in the dormitories), and you've got thousands of others in the adjacent student ghettos.

It's a really weird set-up, and something definitely isn't adding up. If I had to guess, I'd imagine that these complexes, while definitely student-oriented, are also home to a lot of folks who simply work on campus.
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Thanks for the background LMich. I wish development would focus NW of campus. Is it unreasonable to suggest more student development on Lansing's east side or would there be pushback? I could also imagine Frandor being redeveloped into some impressive shopping center with student housing above it. That would almost be too perfect. Couple that with a major transit corridor zooming past someday.
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The area immediately south of Frandor, south of Michigan Avenue, (the old Red Cedar Golf Course) is currently planned as a massive mixed-use development, with a lot of student housing along with offices, retail and hotel space. Frandor, itself - formerly an indoor mall, BTW - isn't planned for any major changes, development-wise, outside of plans to bust up some of the parking lot to facilitate better drainage. This entire area is basically the site of a former creek they diverted beneath Frandor. The thing is nothing more than a floodplain, which is why all new student housing that's been built along Michigan Avenue in this border region is required to start the housing units on the second floor with parking on the first.

No one in the world in Lansing would object to more student housing on the Eastside, but for whatever reason as I said above, it's almost as if developers consider the area a no-go-zone. I really wish I understood planning in this area. Perhaps, it's the lack of planning, in general, but what makes this all the more odd is that the BRT is most definitely going to happen, so you'd think more development would set up along the corridor in anticipation.
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A pretty significant piece of infill on the southwest edge of Old Town. This is directly south of the recently renovated historic Walker Building, which this developer also did:

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Taking a bite out of blight

August 21, 2013

by Lawrence Cosentino | Lansing City Pulse

Wednesday, Aug. 21 — Slowly but surely, Old Town is engulfing its environs like a giant amoeba with seven hair salons. By this time next year, another chunk of neighboring blight will get the now-familiar mixed-use rehab treatment.

The former Heeb Building property, at 1113-1119 N. Washington Ave., empty since the mid-1990s, will be turned into 24 units of low-income housing, with retail and office space on the first floor, Lansing Mayor Virg Bernero and property owner Sam Saboury announced today.

The $3 million project is slated to break ground in four to six weeks and be completed by next summer.


The project is a partnership among several private and public parties, including Saboury, the Greater Lansing Housing Coalition, Dart Bank, the state of Michigan and the city of Lansing.

When it’s done, the newly christened Saboury Building will crown a recent surge in rehabbed buildings on Old Town’s southwestern fringe.

“We’re going back to our roots,” city planning director Bob Johnson said. “In the 1800s, Old Town was a center of commerce.”

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Earlier this year, a vacant building across the street from the Heeb, 1122 N. Washington, was rehabbed and occupied by Head Room Salon. The Walker Building, a century-old hulk on the southwest corner of Washington Avenue and Turner Street, was converted into office and housing units two years ago.

The Heeb Building property will be the last large parcel on that stretch of North Washington to be renovated. “This is the piece that was missing,” Saboury said.

Bernero and Johnson both said Old Town is expanding southward, creating a potential link to downtown.

“Old Town is beyond the immediate area of Turner,” Bernero said.

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There are two buildings on the site now. Architect Kim deStigter said the southernmost building, the Heeb, will be renovated and expanded. An addition to the north will rise to four stories, an anomaly in Old Town, to accommodate the 24 housing units. The smaller of the two existing buildings will be razed to make room for the addition.

DeStigter said the Michigan State Housing Development Authority, or MSHDA, required 24 housing units to fund the project. The only way to fit them all on the site, he said, was to build up to four stories.

Before starting work on the design, DeStigter walked around Old Town to see “what it likes.” He decided to set the Saboury project’s fourth story back from street level and paint it in a darker color, to harmonize it with Old Town’s predominant three-story buildings.


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BTW, speaking of the sprawl up in Bath Township we were talking about, I came across this Buzzfeed piece, yesterday, that addresses it in a single sentence:23 Signs You Went To Michigan State University

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12. The worst thing to happen on a Friday night was learning the party is all the way at Chandler freaking Crossings.

“If we leave in the next five minutes, we can catch the 26!”
No, no, NO.
And, then one addressing the sprawled nature of the campus, itself:

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5. You wanted to scream when friends from small schools complained about long walks to class.
Lastly, The Residences - the tallest building in downtown East Lansing, though, not the tallest building in the city - is nearly complete:


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