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These parcels are all CMX-3 which allows significantly higher density and use than what's currently there. Besides, if any developer wanted to build something bigger than CMX3 here, petitioning for a zoning variance to the councilman to upzone the property to 4 or 5 would probably take little more than a 37 second phone call (didn't that happen to Blatstein's parcel?).

These are thriving businesses that are making a lot of money for themselves and the property owners. I love the optimism but I just don't see these things going anywhere for a loooong time.

In the meantime, though, maybe Kenny Gamble can stop squatting on his lot at Broad and Christian already (what a joke).
Leases run long. Maybe some of that is happening behind the scenes. CMX-3 is not enough, though. I don't think. They need to be rezoned or the property owner needs to know a variance is coming as part of an offer they can't refuse. But, personally, I think one reason it's not happening is because we're not quite ready yet. Lincoln Square and the Washington Avenue developments need to solidify, and Blatstein's if he can ever get it off the ground. A few more sizable lots in Rittenhouse and Graduate Hospital need to develop, housing in Center City needs to get a little more expensive. These things will happe.
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This thing is somehow, just barely, still alive.

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REQUEST TO GRANT A ONE (1) YEAR EXTENSION OF THE DECISION, CALENDAR NO. 26950 (5/17/2016), ZONING PERMIT NUMBERN 929429 (11/17/2018), EXPIRED ON 8/28/2019, TO ALLOW OWNER TO OBTAIN BULDING PERMITS.
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Looks like Broad and Washington is back on the menu boys.

Exclusive: Grocer to anchor Blatstein's South Broad project


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Tower Investments has signed Giant Food Stores to anchor its proposed mixed-use project at Broad Street and Washington Avenue in Philadelphia.

The grocer, which has been aggressively opening stores in Philadelphia to grab more market share, signed a long-term lease on 40,000 square feet.

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For nearly five years, Blastien has been tinkering with plans for the site at Broad and Washington. An initial plan in 2014 involved a 30-story building with 800 apartments and retail space on the upper floors rather than street-level.

"I've completely changed the project," he said. "I've made it simpler but still big."

Blastien said the project is still being redesigned and couldn't provide many details on size and scope at this time. However, it will be built in phases and he expects the first phase to get underway this year. It will have 80,000 square feet of retail space at the base of a residential tower. Subsequent phases will also include more retail and residential uses.
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Looks like Broad and Washington is back on the menu boys.

Exclusive: Grocer to anchor Blatstein's South Broad project
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Giant Food Stores market to anchor Blatstein project at Broad and Washington in S. Philly: Report
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Wow, so between this, Sprouts and the Aldi (I guess you could throw Target, Save A Lot and maybe even the Italian Market in there as well) will there be an area in the city better served with groceries?
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This makes sense for them and they have a distribution hub in the works in South Philly off Island Ave.

Here's Giant's story for more context:

https://www.supermarketnews.com/reta...s-pennsylvania

They aren't sitting around letting Whole Foods or Wegmans or whoever take their lunch money....LOL.

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I'm sure glad they dropped that original plan
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I think someone had mentioned that this would get underway when the Inky was done.

Well, here we are!
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Is 40,000 sq foot a normal size grocery store or one of their small-footprint stores that Giant has been opening? While I definitely would welcome more grocery stores, does it make sense to have two stores across the street from each other at Broad and Washington? I know the Acme and Whole Foods on South Streets are next door to each other, so maybe it could work...

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Wow, so between this, Sprouts and the Aldi (I guess you could throw Target, Save A Lot and maybe even the Italian Market in there as well) will there be an area in the city better served with groceries?
There is no Aldi near this site as far as I know. Acme is not too far away (about a 10 minute walk).
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[QUOTE=eixample;8796639]Is 40,000 sq foot a normal size grocery store or one of their small-footprint stores that Giant has been opening? While I definitely would welcome more grocery stores, does it make sense to have two stores across the street from each other at Broad and Washington? I know the Acme and Whole Foods on South Streets are next door to each other, so maybe it could work...

Typically that's not normal when compare to suburban stores in shopping plazas. But, for the city setting it's quite large. Also, for them, this is smaller when compared to the Riverwalk Giant which IIRC is 65k square foot broken on two levels. Hope this helps.
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Is 40,000 sq foot a normal size grocery store or one of their small-footprint stores that Giant has been opening? While I definitely would welcome more grocery stores, does it make sense to have two stores across the street from each other at Broad and Washington? I know the Acme and Whole Foods on South Streets are next door to each other, so maybe it could work...



There is no Aldi near this site as far as I know. Acme is not too far away (about a 10 minute walk).
40k is a standard store. The Sprouts I believe is 32k. Most Whole Foods are around 35-45k.

There is an ALDI signed as tenant for one of the OCF developments around 2100-2200 block of Washington, so 5-6 blocks away.
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Do we even know what this thing will look like at this point?
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Thanks for the info on the size of the stores and the upcoming Aldi. I shop at this Sprout's and it is quite crowded, often unbearably so. So I can understand why there would be a need for another grocery store. And I get that Giant appeals to a different set of customers (Sprout's isn't so pricy for most things but it doesn't have a broad selection of products). This area will have quite a selection of grocery stores, although I still think there is a need for more of the small-format groceries for walking trips.
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