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Old Posted Oct 24, 2017, 3:59 PM
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Instead, Toronto and Montreal have exemplary rapid transit connections interlined with their regional transit hubs. IIRC, Hamilton has connections to four HSR routes.
In addition to the four HSR routes using bus bays inside Hamilton GO (1,2,3,51), there are another 15 HSR routes that connect to Hamilton GO via the HSR stops that bracket the station on James and John (routes 4,5,6,7,8,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,33,35)
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Old Posted Oct 24, 2017, 4:40 PM
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I am genuinely curious how the 16 Union Express bus factors into these numbers, because some days that bus is almost full of people going to union either before or after rush hour.
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I am genuinely curious how the 16 Union Express bus factors into these numbers, because some days that bus is almost full of people going to union either before or after rush hour.
That wouldn't be captured because it's rail ridership they're tracking in this case. I agree that the ridership on the 16 is reliably high.
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Old Posted Oct 24, 2017, 5:17 PM
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In addition to the four HSR routes using bus bays inside Hamilton GO (1,2,3,51), there are another 15 HSR routes that connect to Hamilton GO via the HSR stops that bracket the station on James and John (routes 4,5,6,7,8,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,33,35)
And two bus shelters between them.

In all seriousness, in a bygone era I used to imagine a scenario wherein the city expropriated the properties across from the Hamilton GO in order to build a more synergistic version of the MacNab Transit Terminal (which is a deluxe version of the bus shelter at James and Hunter).
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Old Posted Nov 15, 2017, 8:25 PM
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Ghost stations: Questions pile up on timeline of all-day GO service to Hamilton
(Hamilton Spectator, Matthew Van Dongen, Nov 15 2017)

Bewildered city councillors want to know why all-day GO train service is not headed for the $80-million worth of new GO stations that will soon be open along Hamilton's lakeshore rail line.

The province's arms-length transit agency, Metrolinx, opened a $45-million GO station on James Street North in 2015. But more than two years later, only two Toronto-bound commuter trains leave the station each morning.

Construction is also about to begin on a $35-million Confederation station further east on the same line, at Centennial Parkway, that should be ready to roll in 2019. New stations are also promised in future along the lake-hugging rail corridor in Grimsby, St. Catharines and Niagara Falls.

Despite all of the new infrastructure, Metrolinx regional planning director Antoine Belaieff told councillors Wednesday there is no public "service plan" yet for the expanded GO line.

And regardless, long-promised hourly GO train service -- whenever it finally arrives in Hamilton -- is first aimed at the Hunter Street GO Centre, which is on a Canadian Pacific-owned line not connected to the newly built stations.

That plan "confuses the heck out of me," said Mayor Fred Eisenberger, who asked why new train service isn't a priority for the new stations and expanding commuter line into Niagara.

Belaieff said Metrolinx had already chosen to first extend true "all-day" service to the Hunter Street station when the agency's 10-year expansion plan was announced in 2015. Hamilton is supposed to be on track for hourly service by 2025, but Belaieff said he had no more specific timeline to offer.

He also didn't directly address the rationale for choosing to extend more frequent train service first to the Hunter Street location rather than to the newly built stations along the expanding lakeshore rail line.…

Belaieff said trains will be able serve the new east end station in 2019, but Metrolinx isn't able to say how many. "It would be illogical to have stations with no trains," he said. "There will be service, but we don't have a service plan yet."

He also couldn't say when service is expected to improve to the existing West Harbour station at James Street North.


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Nothing will happen unless councillors hold Wynne's feet to the fire. Metrolinx doesn't care about Hamilton.
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Evidently, not one councilor made a connection between service to Hunter and its advantage of proximity to many local transit routes and future LRT (never mind proximity to the densest parts of the city, and most of the city's new and proposed condo development, and the potential economic development stimulus for downtown).

They do have a point questioning why the money is being spent for the new stations without the service. But that service remains in the plan, and the money would have been spent anyway, so it just means Metrolinx is ahead of the game in this aspect. And they now have flexibility to add trains incrementally if they can make it work with CN (which should be easier with the additional new track around the west end of the harbour), and have the seasonal Niagara trains make stops at West Harbour.
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In the wake of the Kirby station controversy and calls to have the Auditor General unpack the planning rationale around service expansions, Metrolinx has been foregrounding RER New Stations Initial Business Cases to justify policy choices, and moving more methodically. I would guess that they're eager to avoid getting on the back foot during an election cycle where they stand to lose the government that made rail enhancements a central element of a generational investment in transit.
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MP Bob Bratina talks trains at Lake Avenue school
(Stoney Creek News, Mike Pearson, Nov 17 2017)

Hamilton East-Stoney Creek MP Bob Bratina gave students at Lake Avenue school a glimpse into 150 years of railway technology on Nov. 17.

Bratina brought his model of a 19th century train station, inspired by the former Stoney Creek station built on Lake Avenue in 1853. The Liberal MP also offered demonstrations of telegraphs, Morse code and steam engine technology before answering questions from students.

Bratina completed his model train and station in his spare time, as a Canada 150 project.

Tying his presentation to the present time, Bratina spoke about the future Confederation GO Train station, which is expected to break ground before the end of the year. Bratina said he hopes to work with the provincial government to bring all-day GO Train service to Hamilton as soon as possible.
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GO Bus service changes as of Dec 30, 2017, courtesy GO Transit:

Route 18 (Lakeshore West)

The weekday westbound 4:56 p.m. trip from Aldershot will now end at Hamilton GO Centre. West Harbour customers can instead take the Lakeshore West train, which departs Aldershot at 4:58 p.m. and arrives at West Harbour at 5:12 p.m.

Route 40 (Hamilton/Richmond Hill)

All non-express trips will serve the new GO bus terminal at the TTC Highway 407 Station on the TTC Line 1 subway extension. Schedules will be adjusted by up to 10 minutes to include the new stop.
Schedules will be adjusted for some trips for improved reliability and to better reflect actual travel times.

Route 47 (Hamilton/York University)

All non-express trips and 47F express trips will serve the new GO bus terminal at the Highway 407 Station on the TTC Line 1 extension. Schedules will be adjusted by up to 10 minutes to include the new stop.
Schedules for express trips will be adjusted for better connections to other GO bus routes, with earlier departures.
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