Power Centre Development

[eternallyme]

Originally Posted by waterloowarrior

new plaza Colonnade @ Merivale
http://app01.ottawa.ca/postingplans/...appId=__81WR5F

The purpose of this application is to seek approval for the development of a 2,787 m2 one-storey retail building with a surface parking lot for 178 parking spaces

http://www.colonnadedevelopment.com/...d=149&hl=en_US



http://www.colonnadedevelopment.com/...il_jan2012.pdf

Anchored by 'terra20'
http://www.terra20.com/

My opinion on that: Place on hold. Ensure that stores are fronting Merivale (to allow for further redevelopment to push towards mainstreet arterial) and parking lots front Colonnade (being an industrial collector, there is no benefit of stores facing it). Eliminate the direct access from Merivale north of Colonnade - cars would be forced onto Colonnade to access the site.

[Dado]

Anyone else see any irony in an eco-products store setting up shop in a single-use single-storey asphalt-intensive development on Ottawa's most car-oriented road with sub-par transit service and poor cycling access?

[Ottawan]

Originally Posted by waterloowarrior

new plaza Colonnade @ Merivale
http://app01.ottawa.ca/postingplans/...appId=__81WR5F

The purpose of this application is to seek approval for the development of a 2,787 m2 one-storey retail building with a surface parking lot for 178 parking spaces

http://www.colonnadedevelopment.com/...d=149&hl=en_US



http://www.colonnadedevelopment.com/...il_jan2012.pdf

Anchored by 'terra20'
http://www.terra20.com/

Finally! A power centre was just what that area was lacking!

[eternallyme]

After rethinking an ideal area structural plan, I would REJECT the proposed development. There are plenty of open boxes farther up Merivale to develop or redevelop. That land should be rezoned as institutional.

[Cre47]

I hope they keep enough space for a potential cross-town rapid transit corridor there.

[eternallyme]

Originally Posted by Cre47

I hope they keep enough space for a potential cross-town rapid transit corridor there.

Wrong side of Colonnade Road, but I agree. That land should be completely rezoned anyway - there is plenty of open land and open boxes farther north on Merivale as stores go out of business. How about the half-empty Merivale Mall (which IMO should be torn down)?

[BlackRedGold]

Originally Posted by eternallyme

Wrong side of Colonnade Road, but I agree. That land should be completely rezoned anyway - there is plenty of open land and open boxes farther north on Merivale as stores go out of business. How about the half-empty Merivale Mall (which IMO should be torn down)?

When did Merivale Mall become half-empty? The quality of the tenants inside the mall has gone down but it's far from the state of, say, Barrhaven Mall was at when it was torn down. It's not like you can just tear down parts of it and leave the YMCA and Tailgators continuing operations during that time.

[Cre47]

Originally Posted by eternallyme

Wrong side of Colonnade Road, but I agree. That land should be completely rezoned anyway - there is plenty of open land and open boxes farther north on Merivale as stores go out of business. How about the half-empty Merivale Mall (which IMO should be torn down)?

South side of Colonnade looks to be very tight for a BRT corridor so that's why I was thinking of the north side

[MountainView]

Do they have any of the tenants already lined up? I noticed that some of the buildings say they will be used for "anchor" tenants. Perhaps a large Nike or Rebook outlet?

[S-Man]

I'm guessing that really tall hotel/condo tower from a few years back proposed for this are is kaput? I recall people mles away didn't like the height. Thankfully, they'll just be hetting glorious 1-storey retail outlets and 2,000 parking spots, rather than traffic-causing tall buildings.

[Cre47]

Originally Posted by S-Man

I'm guessing that really tall hotel/condo tower from a few years back proposed for this are is kaput? I recall people mles away didn't like the height. Thankfully, they'll just be hetting glorious 1-storey retail outlets and 2,000 parking spots, rather than traffic-causing tall buildings.

And worst thing, the traffic will be worst. Imagine the jam during the Christmas rush and other busy periods and during Sens games at the same time. Even with the extension of Campeau, it will be chaotic until the Transitway gets built.

[waterloowarrior]

Originally Posted by S-Man

I'm guessing that really tall hotel/condo tower from a few years back proposed for this are is kaput? I recall people mles away didn't like the height. Thankfully, they'll just be hetting glorious 1-storey retail outlets and 2,000 parking spots, rather than traffic-causing tall buildings.

that site is at 417/Terry Fox.. approved at 15 floors IIRC
here's the thread
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=140059

[eternallyme]

I would conditionally approve that project, based on further stormwater assessment. Realistically, that kind of centre will not be transit-intensive, and should not necessary be situated adjacent to the transit station. Rather than have another Terry Fox mess, I would focus the intensification at other sites. (Also, if the Transitway is extended westward onto a more intense site, that should become the main transit hub for Kanata)

[waterloowarrior]

original West Terrace plan


kanata west concept plan (demonstration plan)


source: http://www.dramatispersonae.org/Demo...ngineering.htm

[waterloowarrior]

here is the plan for the west transitway in this area
http://www.ottawa.ca/cs/groups/conte.../con064897.pdf
from http://www.ottawa.ca/en/city_hall/pl...rds/index.html

[TransitZilla]

Originally Posted by eternallyme

I would conditionally approve that project, based on further stormwater assessment. Realistically, that kind of centre will not be transit-intensive, and should not necessary be situated adjacent to the transit station.

Well as shown in Waterloowarrior's post, this WILL be located next to a transit station, so there might was well be an effort to make it as integrated as possible with that station.

Here's a quick edit of the proposal to show my thoughts:

[eternallyme]

Originally Posted by bradnixon

Well as shown in Waterloowarrior's post, this WILL be located next to a transit station, so there might was well be an effort to make it as integrated as possible with that station.

Here's a quick edit of the proposal to show my thoughts:

I like your proposal better, especially the stormwater pond moved to near the interchange in the wasted land. I do like the illuminated pedestrian bridge idea with a direct connection to Scotiabank Place (although with strict parking restrictions on event days). The transit corridor should be on the east side with direct pedestrian overpasses as well, but no local bus loops (the site would not be a focal point for the area).

Since neither Campeau or Huntmar I would classify as mainstreet arterials (both are suburban minor arterials), street frontage is not necessary IMO.

[Uhuniau]

Sweet gentle Moses on a Moses-stick, even by the appallingly bad standards, such as they are, of Ottawa, that's awful.

[Proof Sheet]

Originally Posted by Uhuniau

Sweet gentle Moses on a Moses-stick, even by the appallingly bad standards, such as they are, of Ottawa, that's awful.

I think we would all be worried here if you said you liked it.

[todspe67]

Originally Posted by reidjr

I am sure its just a matter of time before people start speaking out aginst this project.

As they should - the last thing this city needs is more urban sprawl into prime agriculture land.