CHICAGO | Tribune Tower Addition | 1,442 FT | 113 FLOORS - Page 62

jc5680 · #**1221** Posted **Jan 14, 2020, 9:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by Steely Dan

looking at the diagram posted, my guess is 1,422' from upper illinois / 1,442' from lower illinois.

CTBUH would likely list it at 1,442' as long as there's an entrance from lower illinois (which there certainly will be).

I assumed lower too, the drawings in the app show secondary lobbies for hotel, condo, and apartments all on the lower level. The common lobby practically stares out at an open St Clair

Steely Dan · #**1222** Posted **Jan 14, 2020, 9:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by BVictor1

open air... this is all enclosed above. Vista accessible from park.

but if you pan around 180° on lower illinois from the proposed site, you have "open air" on St. Clair.

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8909...7i16384!8i8192

we're definitely getting into a pretty gray area here.......

Zapatan · #**1223** Posted **Jan 14, 2020, 9:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by pianowizard

Sorry for being terribly unclear in my previous post. Yes, the drawings show 1422, but the text says "building 1,442' in height" on pages 1, 58, and 63.

I agree with Dan's interpretation.

They could just be wrong, people mess up numbers all the time.

pianowizard · #**1224** Posted **Jan 14, 2020, 9:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by Zapatan

They could just be wrong, people mess up numbers all the time.

That's true. Regardless, my point was that the height was measured to the very tip of the crown, not to the top floor as you (and I) were hoping for.

BVictor1 · #**1225** Posted **Jan 14, 2020, 9:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by Steely Dan

but if you pan around 180° on lower illinois from the proposed site, you have "open air" on St. Clair.

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8909...7i16384!8i8192

we're definitely getting into a pretty gray area here.......

Yeah, NO... that and I asked someone from CTBUH and they said upper level.

I don't see CTBUH editing the height at this time.

MorganChi · #**1226** Posted **Jan 14, 2020, 10:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by pianowizard

This is both exciting and disappointing. Exciting because it sounds like they want to build very tall and believe they can build very tall, but disappointing because they may be deliberately staying below Sears. It reminds me of an early design of NYC's Central Park Tower, which was just 1 ft shorter than the WTC.

I see where you are coming from, but personally I don't care for this type of "respect". I just want Chicago to have a new tallest building, even if Sears is topped by just 1 ft, because the city hasn't had a new tallest building in 47 years. Am I alone on this?

No you’re not alone on this topic

emathias · #**1227** Posted **Jan 14, 2020, 10:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by Steely Dan

looking at the diagram posted, my guess is 1,422' from upper illinois / 1,442' from lower illinois.

CTBUH would likely list it at 1,442' as long as there's an entrance from lower illinois (which there certainly will be).

1,422' is definitely from Upper Illinois, the drawing makes that clear, and Upper Illinois seems around 20" above Lower Illinois, although I kinda think it feels like even more than that at that location. But maybe not.

Tom In Chicago · #**1228** Posted **Jan 14, 2020, 11:33 PM**

CTBUH is using 1,422'. . .

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Zapatan · #**1229** Posted **Jan 15, 2020, 12:07 AM**

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Originally Posted by Tom In Chicago

CTBUH is using 1,422'. . .

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Unless it's a recent height bump and they just haven't updated it yet. CTBUH can be a little behind at times.

Either way it's a a 1400+ er

Tom In Chicago · #**1230** Posted **Jan 15, 2020, 5:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by Zapatan

Unless it's a recent height bump and they just haven't updated it yet. CTBUH can be a little behind at times.

Either way it's a a 1400+ er

Looks like it's updated. . .

https://www.skyscrapercenter.com/bui...st-tower/32142

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rlw777 · #**1231** Posted **Jan 15, 2020, 7:45 PM**

Am I the only one who has thought it could be cool if they attached glass pieces from all over the world to the facade of the podium?

MorganChi · #**1232** Posted **Jan 15, 2020, 7:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by rlw777

Am I the only one who has thought it could be cool if they attached glass pieces from all over the world to the facade of the podium?

That is actually not a bad idea

Zapatan · #**1233** Posted **Jan 15, 2020, 8:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by Tom In Chicago

Looks like it's updated. . .

https://www.skyscrapercenter.com/bui...st-tower/32142

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It still says 1,422. Or did they change it back when we did since I think the CTBUH gets their info from here

Tom In Chicago · #**1234** Posted **Jan 15, 2020, 11:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by Zapatan

It still says 1,422. Or did they change it back when we did since I think the CTBUH gets their info from here

What am I missing here? The CTBUH height is 1,422 ft as measured from upper Illinois Street. . . .

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Zapatan · #**1235** Posted **Jan 15, 2020, 11:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by Tom In Chicago

What am I missing here? The CTBUH height is 1,422 ft as measured from upper Illinois Street. . . .

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It's always been listed as this. When you said updated I thought they had changed it to 1442.

aaron38 · #**1236** Posted **Jan 18, 2020, 3:09 AM**

https://www.chicagoarchitecture.org/...its-city-hall/

Zapatan · #**1237** Posted **Jan 18, 2020, 3:56 AM**

I'm not familiar with the area, is Upper Illinois 20 feet above Lower Illinois (street)?

If so it may actually be 1442 to the lowest entrance, kinda like Salesforce at Wolf Point (813 vs 835).

Super exciting though, Chicago rules!

bhawk66 · #**1238** Posted **Jan 18, 2020, 9:10 AM**

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Originally Posted by aaron38

https://www.chicagoarchitecture.org/...its-city-hall/

Holy shit, batman!

MorganChi · #**1239** Posted **Jan 18, 2020, 2:07 PM**

They have it listed 1,442 ft

glowrock · #**1240** Posted **Jan 18, 2020, 2:21 PM**

So presumably now that official plans have been filed this will be going through the typical aldermanic hulaballoo? Or did Reilly essentially give it his thumbs-up prior to this, making it all but inevitable it's approved?

Aaron (Glowrock)