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About Tollways. Don't know how anyone here would equate a toll way with increased speed and efficiency. We got them in Chicagoland and we have expresslanes too...and they don't always work. Just preparing you all for reality.
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Old Posted Dec 2, 2005, 8:32 PM
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Red mccombs is ruining the sanctity of the alamo..How dare he! Just kidding but really tollways are fantastic, In Dallas that's all I try to use going north from highland park area to north dallas or frisco. I believe our SA tollway is going to be all electronic, so no toll booths or large toll plazas, just a straight shot up 281/1604!
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Old Posted Dec 2, 2005, 11:11 PM
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Just announced in today's Business Journal: A new Marriott to rise where the former St. Mary's Catholic school was located on the riverwalk. It will be 17 stories and have an impressive Mediterranean type domed tower dealy. Sounds cool.
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We got them in Chicagoland and we have expresslanes too...and they don't always work. Just preparing you all for reality.
You have a good point. But its not like ALL of us have never seen one before. (image of a bunch of south texans standing at the entrance, scratching their heads trying to figure out the onramp) Houston and Dallas are full of them. Their usefullness are all about how they are engineered / constructed. Specifically, the Dallas North Tollway and Westpark Tollway in Houston are great tollways that cut a significant amount of travel time off of a commute on the nearest freeway.
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Just announced in today's Business Journal: A new Marriott to rise where the former St. Mary's Catholic school was located on the riverwalk. It will be 17 stories and have an impressive Mediterranean type domed tower dealy. Sounds cool.
Great! Do you have a link?
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Seeing how they will be electronic toll ways and not the traditional "coin booth" setup, traffic will be able to zoom right through.
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Westpark Tollway in Houston is completely electronic.

Its great too. My family lives right off of it on Grand Parkway. They can get on (at its terminus at Grand Parkway) and get to the Galleria area (Westheimer) in about 15-20 minutes.

The same trip on 59 would take about 30 minutes. The same trip on the katy freeway would take about 40 minutes.

Also, I believe that (if it hasnt happened already) they are working on an integration plan where the electric toll tag systems will work on any of the toll systems in the state. So if you have a 'toll-tag' in Houston, it will work as an 'EZ Pass' on the thus branded system in Dallas.
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Many of the new projects downtown are midrises but will surely give downtown more density.The architecture will be impressive which is a big plus.
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Many of the new projects downtown are midrises but will surely give downtown more density.The architecture will be impressive which is a big plus.
How do you know?

The only renderings I've seen are the condos across from the hotel Valencia (San Lorenzo?) The new Marriott sounds promising (the developer is Finvarb http://www.finvarb.com/) but we don't really know yet. What else are you referring to that is impressive?

Has anyone heard anything about the Best Western by Sunset Suites? When I was trying to find something on the Staybridge I came across this article (dated 2/8/2005):
http://recenter.tamu.edu/mreports/SanAntonio13.asp
The Best Western Sunset Station, though not in downtown, has plans to expand by another 65 to 100 rooms, said Mark Ingle, the hotel's general manager. Average daily rates for the rooms have hovered between $88 to $94, according to Source Strategies' Hotel Brand Report. For the first two quarters of last year, occupancy was 75.5 percent and 78.4 percent

Do they have room to expand, or are they building on to their property? Currently the hotel is 4 stories and 64 suites, so 100 rooms would be a sizeable upgrade.

Finally, the Drury Inn reservation site talks a little about the renovation of the Alamo Bank building:
http://www.druryhotels.com/properties/Alamo.cfm
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Golf resort latest gem for officials to show off

Web Posted: 12/08/2005 12:00 AM CST

Elizabeth Allen
Express-News Staff Writer


In a banquet hall of the tall, pink San Antonio Marriott Rivercenter hotel, the city's business and political elite gathered Wednesday to laud the official announcement of Cibolo Canyons — the luxury PGA golf resort that has weathered four years of public strife.

"It was a very tortured process," state Sen. Jeff Wentworth said of the political struggle that went into creating the resort.

It was a heady moment for officials who pushed for the project, and it came as part of a spate of recent economic boosts for the city: a new Toyota pickup factory; the ascendance of Valero Energy as the country's largest petroleum refiner; and SBC's acquisition of AT&T, the world's largest telecommunications company.

As that business growth and the recent speculation over potential major league sports teams make national news, Wentworth said that "it creates a buzz for San Antonio that's very beneficial."

So the big players took some time to slap each other on the back and graze on a fajita buffet.

They listened to the golf course designers and admired preliminary sketches of the two courses and the JW Marriott hotel. Developers estimate the completed resort will be valued at $1 billion by the time it's completed.

Bexar County Judge Nelson Wolff was having a particularly good day on the heels of announcing that baseball's Florida Marlins are considering San Antonio for a new home.

It's exciting even if it turns out to be a ploy by the Marlins to make news that gets someone else's attention, he told Kenneth Jastrow, chief executive officer of Temple-Inland, the parent company of Lumbermen's Investment Corp., owner and developer of 2,850 acres in Northeast Bexar County where the resort will be.

"You know how you date one girl to get to the other girl?" Wolff quipped.

He later said that much of the groundwork for the region's growth has been done over the past 20 years. Now that growth is gaining momentum, Wolff said, it's time to push for everything that can be gained from it.

But officials should not equate success in sports development with the more meaningful growth of major industry, warned Char Miller, director of the urban studies program at Trinity University.

"I think big-league sports is nowhere near as important as the economic growth and the kinds of jobs produced by Toyota, AT&T and the like," Miller said.

For Cibolo Canyons, the project must overcome several years of opposition and bad blood.

Water quality concerns and a bill that would have given the resort eminent domain powers of a city raised an uproar from environmentalists in 2001, when Lumbermen's tried to set up a deal with PGA of America.

One massive public petition drive and two collapsed deals later, Lumbermen's, local politicians and businessmen struck a new agreement with PGA Tour and brought in hotel heavy-hitter Marriott International Inc.

Resort developers increased environmental protections and offered wage guarantees in exchange for a 29-year non-annexation agreement with the city.

Then they had to wade through the tide of negative public opinion and a late start in the legislative session to pass a bill that lets the district levy taxes and issue bonds.

"We tried our best not to let it get into the newspaper, and it worked for a while," Wolff told the crowd.

Officials are waiting on a development agreement that will pay for it all.

The pressure is on for board members of a public improvement district to hammer out the agreement with Lumbermen's and Marriott before Christmas, said board member Robert Rodriguez.

"I think we've been asked to meet as many times as we need to get that done," said Rodriguez, who is a member of a subcommittee working on the agreement.

County commissioners will have final say on the development agreement.

eallen@express-news.net

http://www.mysanantonio.com/business....17c8aaf3.html
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Old Posted Dec 8, 2005, 7:30 PM
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This development is absoulutley fantastic for San Antonio! It is really going to boost tourism and our economy tremendously!
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I don't see how, it isn't even in the city limits.
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This is a top notch resort that will bring more elite to San Antonio.San ANtonio is already a major resort city comprable to Phoenix,Orlando etc. as far as resort hotels.Not overal number of golf courses,Phoenix has more.Anyway i'm surprised it got the green light, since it will be built over the aquifer and all the contoversy.
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Golf resort latest gem for officials to show off

Web Posted: 12/08/2005 12:00 AM CST
Elizabeth Allen
Express-News Staff Writer

In a banquet hall of the tall, pink San Antonio Marriott Rivercenter hotel, the city's business and political elite gathered Wednesday to laud the official announcement of Cibolo Canyons — the luxury PGA golf resort that has weathered four years of public strife.

"It was a very tortured process," state Sen. Jeff Wentworth said of the political struggle that went into creating the resort.



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It was a heady moment for officials who pushed for the project, and it came as part of a spate of recent economic boosts for the city: a new Toyota pickup factory; the ascendance of Valero Energy as the country's largest petroleum refiner; and SBC's acquisition of AT&T, the world's largest telecommunications company.

As that business growth and the recent speculation over potential major league sports teams make national news, Wentworth said that "it creates a buzz for San Antonio that's very beneficial."

So the big players took some time to slap each other on the back and graze on a fajita buffet.

They listened to the golf course designers and admired preliminary sketches of the two courses and the JW Marriott hotel. Developers estimate the completed resort will be valued at $1 billion by the time it's completed.

Bexar County Judge Nelson Wolff was having a particularly good day on the heels of announcing that baseball's Florida Marlins are considering San Antonio for a new home.

It's exciting even if it turns out to be a ploy by the Marlins to make news that gets someone else's attention, he told Kenneth Jastrow, chief executive officer of Temple-Inland, the parent company of Lumbermen's Investment Corp., owner and developer of 2,850 acres in Northeast Bexar County where the resort will be.

"You know how you date one girl to get to the other girl?" Wolff quipped.

He later said that much of the groundwork for the region's growth has been done over the past 20 years. Now that growth is gaining momentum, Wolff said, it's time to push for everything that can be gained from it.

But officials should not equate success in sports development with the more meaningful growth of major industry, warned Char Miller, director of the urban studies program at Trinity University.

"I think big-league sports is nowhere near as important as the economic growth and the kinds of jobs produced by Toyota, AT&T and the like," Miller said.

For Cibolo Canyons, the project must overcome several years of opposition and bad blood.

Water quality concerns and a bill that would have given the resort eminent domain powers of a city raised an uproar from environmentalists in 2001, when Lumbermen's tried to set up a deal with PGA of America.

One massive public petition drive and two collapsed deals later, Lumbermen's, local politicians and businessmen struck a new agreement with PGA Tour and brought in hotel heavy-hitter Marriott International Inc.

Resort developers increased environmental protections and offered wage guarantees in exchange for a 29-year non-annexation agreement with the city.

Then they had to wade through the tide of negative public opinion and a late start in the legislative session to pass a bill that lets the district levy taxes and issue bonds.

"We tried our best not to let it get into the newspaper, and it worked for a while," Wolff told the crowd.

Officials are waiting on a development agreement that will pay for it all.

The pressure is on for board members of a public improvement district to hammer out the agreement with Lumbermen's and Marriott before Christmas, said board member Robert Rodriguez.

"I think we've been asked to meet as many times as we need to get that done," said Rodriguez, who is a member of a subcommittee working on the agreement.

County commissioners will have final say on the development agreement.



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This is a top notch resort that will bring more elite to San Antonio.San ANtonio is already a major resort city comprable to Phoenix,Orlando etc. as far as resort hotels.Not overal number of golf courses,Phoenix has more.Anyway i'm surprised it got the green light, since it will be built over the aquifer and all the contoversy.

Paul, I would agree with you that S.A. is a good resort city. However, I believe it is still got some ground to cover before one can group it with the Phoenix's (one of the most concentrated areas on the planet for top rated spas & golf resorts) and Orlando's (125,000+ hotel rooms, Walt Disney World, Universal Studios, Sea World, 150+ golf courses, etc.) of the world.

But it is obvious that S.A. is moving in the right direction to be able to do so someday...
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The Vidorra's website is now up. (The Sunset Station, twin 25-story condo project):

http://www.verticallivingsa.com
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VIDORRA RENDERINGS1

I have scanned in the renderings of the new 25-story Vidorra condos at Sunset Station. I like the design. What do you guys think?

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See, I thought I had heard that the condos would be 25 stories each on the news too? The Express-News has them at 22 floors. If you count the levels there are 25. The media always have conflicting reports, such as in the case of the Grand Hyatt (nobody knows how many floors and the design has always been different from the one shown on the news and the newspapers).
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