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Old Posted Sep 23, 2017, 7:30 PM
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NEW YORK | World Trade Center (original) Discussion

According to Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marrio...d_Trade_Center), the hotel was connected to the North and South Towers (the Twin Towers) of the original World Trade Center, and many went through the hotel to get to them. This website called "EMPORIS" (https://www.emporis.com/buildings/11...rk-city-ny-usa) also says that the hotel was connected to the Twin Towers.


But this image from a website called "AwesomeStories" (https://www.awesomestories.com/image...3362e69a6d.jpg) doesn't show anything connecting the hotel and the Twin Towers together.

So was the hotel actually connected to the Twin Towers?

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Ok, I got it. I edited it to make sure that the website that I got the image from was credited for the image.
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The connection was underground, beneath the plaza. I'm pretty sure the entire complex was connected.
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The connection was underground, beneath the plaza. I'm pretty sure the entire complex was connected.
I don't think 7 World Trade Center was connected to the complex.
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I don't think 7 World Trade Center was connected to the complex.
7 WTC was connected to the rest of the WTC complex via a set of bridges over Vesey St.



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Only the North Tower (1 WTC) had a direct connection to the hotel, but like spidey said the connection was on the mall concourse level, underneath the plaza. You could access the South Tower via the North Tower and the mall.
Here is a map of the concourse level showing the connection.

Here is a simpler map with green arrows showing the entry points for the buildings on the concourse level.
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Only the North Tower (1 WTC) had a direct connection to the hotel, but like spidey said the connection was on the mall concourse level, underneath the plaza. You could access the South Tower via the North Tower and the mall.
Here is a map of the concourse level showing the connection.

Here is a simpler map with green arrows showing the entry points for the buildings on the concourse level.
That's weird that the North Tower was the only one that had a direct connection to the hotel. I expected that there would've also been a direct connection to the South Tower too, since (like the mall) the hotel would've also connected the North Tower and South Tower's lobbies together if the hotel also had a direct connection to the South Tower's lobby like it did with the North Tower's lobby.
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That's weird that the North Tower was the only one that had a direct connection to the hotel. I expected that there would've also been a direct connection to the South Tower too, since (like the mall) the hotel would've also connected the North Tower and South Tower's lobbies together if the hotel also had a direct connection to the South Tower's lobby like it did with the North Tower's lobby.
I think there was. I was obsessed with the Twin Towers as a kid; models, drawings and all sorts of WTC related shit (still have them all) and I do remember entrances on the street level between 2WTC (the one with the observatory) and the hotel. It may have been open air passage way but you could access one from the other directly.
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I think there was. I was obsessed with the Twin Towers as a kid; models, drawings and all sorts of WTC related shit (still have them all) and I do remember entrances on the street level between 2WTC (the one with the observatory) and the hotel. It may have been open air passage way but you could access one from the other directly.
An "open air passage way"? Do you mean how the hotel had a entrance on its south side like how the South Tower also had a entrance on its south side? Both the hotel and South Tower had entrances on their south side. So the South Tower and hotel had entrances close to each other, but they didn't a connection to each other at all.
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An "open air passage way"? Do you mean how the hotel had a entrance on its south side like how the South Tower also had a entrance on its south side? Both the hotel and South Tower had entrances on their south side. So the South Tower and hotel had entrances close to each other, but they didn't a connection to each other at all.
You walked out the door of one building towards the facing door of the other one.
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I could not see the images so I did not know how it looked like.
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I could not see the images so I did not know how it looked like.
Can you see it like this?

Plaza Level (No connection)


Concourse Level (Connection between 1 and 3 WTC)


The other image is far too large and detailed to embed directly into a post.
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The original 6 World Trade Center building had 8 stories?

Many websites say that the original 6 World Trade Center building had 8 stories, but according to this Wikipedia page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...d_Trade_Center), the building seems to only have 7 stories besides the underground mall.
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Who cares? Its gone.
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Who cares?
Maybe people who are interested in architecture history?
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The Sears Tower (I refuse to call it anything else) is described as having 110 floors but I think it really has 108.
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I have been wondering about that but have been too embarrassed to ask. I grew up believing the Sears tower had 110 stories however most sources I find say 108.
The Willis Tower's website claims 110 stories.
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The 2 extra floors are in the elevator box, so they usually aren't included in Sears Tower's floor count.
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6 World Trade Center had 8 total floors, starting at the street level.

The problem is that the actual visible building has only 7 visible floors starting at the Plaza Level, but there is an additional lower level on the Concourse Level. While this section is at the same level as the Mall at the World Trade Center, it isn't actually connected to the mall in any way, and instead originally had a direct entrance/exit on Vesey St., as can be seen in these images:


You can see the seven upper floors, and the lower street level doors of 6 WTC.
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6 World Trade Center had 8 total floors, starting at the street level.

The problem is that the actual visible building has only 7 visible floors starting at the Plaza Level, but there is an additional lower level on the Concourse Level. While this section is at the same level as the Mall at the World Trade Center, it isn't actually connected to the mall in any way, and instead originally had a direct entrance/exit on Vesey St., as can be seen in these images:


You can see the seven upper floors, and the lower street level doors of 6 WTC.
Ok, but I still don't understand why that floor on the concourse level counts as a story for that building, while the other buildings in the original complex with floors on the concourse level don't count as a story.

Here's a link to a Wikipedia page that shows the tenants for the North Tower (building 1): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...d_Trade_Center

The page doesn't count the concourse level (which is on street level and is below the plaza level and below the North Tower's floors) as a floor. But if it was counted as a floor, wouldn't that actually make the Twin Towers both 111 stories tall instead of 110 stories?

Also here's a link to a Wikipedia page that shows the tenants for the original 5 WTC: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5_World_Trade_Center

The page says that the building has 9 stories but doesn't include the concourse level (which is below the floors). But wouldn't 5 WTC actually be 10 stories tall because of the concourse level?

Also here's a link to a Emporis page about 3 WTC (the Marriot Hotel): https://www.emporis.com/buildings/11...rk-city-ny-usa

Most sources say that 3 WTC had 22 stories, but Emporis says that 3 WTC had 22 stories from plaza level and had 2 more stories on the concourse level. So according to Emporis, 3 WTC actually had 24 stories.

So why does a floor on the concourse level for 6 WTC count as a story for that building, but not for the other buildings of the original complex?
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