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Old Posted Jan 25, 2011, 6:25 AM
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I'm an Ontario boy born and raised but from what I've seen...it's Saskatchewan's time now! The stadium plans look spectacular...I've been following this provinces progress for the past year and have been nothing short of impressed. Keep it up!!

Also Migs, I saw your flabbergasted comment in our Hamilton Pan-Am stadium thread...I totally concur...what a mess it's been. We love our Ivor Wynne dearly but as a sign of the times, we need new digs pronto. Our city councilors however have their heads up well...you know where so I'm certain we won't build anything close to the gem that's being planned out there in Regina.

I look forward to visiting the province soon!
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Old Posted Jan 25, 2011, 6:40 AM
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To me the Hamilton saga had more to do with Ti-Cat ownership not wanting to work with the City's vision. Were the Mayor and Council not committed to a downtown stadium and it was ownership who preferred a suburban location (citing the need for parking, blah).

At the very least it's staying in Hamilton and not going across the highway to Burlington. That would have been worst case scenario right there.
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Old Posted Jan 25, 2011, 8:05 AM
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Love the Plans, Looks great. Cannot wait to see this built!
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Looks like the odds of the Feds helping to fund this project just went up. CTV news at noon reported the Feds are looking at funding through the P3 fund. There was 1 billion dollars in unspent money from the budget. I guess they are looking at Regina as a "test case."
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Old Posted Jan 25, 2011, 6:46 PM
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Looks like the odds of the Feds helping to fund this project just went up. CTV news at noon reported the Feds are looking at funding through the P3 fund. There was 1 billion dollars in unspent money from the budget. I guess they are looking at Regina as a "test case."
That's the gist of the Globe and Mail story from today as well.
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Old Posted Jan 25, 2011, 7:07 PM
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could you imagine all the hotels office towers that will go go up around this new some as high as 25 floors it will be quite the site to see
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could you imagine all the hotels office towers that will go go up around this new some as high as 25 floors it will be quite the site to see
That's a wild-ass assumption if I've ever heard one.
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That's a wild-ass assumption if I've ever heard one.
If you like wild ass
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Old Posted Jan 25, 2011, 8:50 PM
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Funny, I was going to say the same thing today. I thought that I loved Regina too much!
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could you imagine all the hotels office towers that will go go up around this new some as high as 25 floors it will be quite the site to see
25 snap how about 80 floors then we would be real gangster then we all can drive esclades with spinners on the wheels and drive to our towers in the sky!!
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could you imagine all the hotels office towers that will go go up around this new some as high as 25 floors it will be quite the site to see
Hahahaha, this is gold!
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That's a wild-ass assumption if I've ever heard one.
Well, last winter, an an individual --- whom possesses incredibly credibility --- stated to me that two hotels will have signed on with this project (if it were to go ahead). And, indeed may very well be 20+ storeys in height.
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Well, last winter, an an individual --- whom possesses incredibly credibility --- stated to me that two hotels will have signed on with this project (if it were to go ahead). And, indeed may very well be 20+ storeys in height.
I could see that happening as it would be prime location with the casino, cornwall, dewdney nightlife, and the new stadium. It's neat to see the transformation of the north-east end downtown gradually happen.
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Well, last winter, an an individual --- whom possesses incredibly credibility --- stated to me that two hotels will have signed on with this project (if it were to go ahead). And, indeed may very well be 20+ storeys in height.
Two hotels for the site are true. Four Points I think is supposed to go up this year. 20 storeys though is not.
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Old Posted Jan 26, 2011, 12:36 AM
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If this does go through, it will be pretty fun to watch the rest of the land get picked up in the CP yards. Many possibilities.

Aaaannnd, thefourthtower is the only person in this forum that I kind of want to meet in person. Quite curious.
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Old Posted Jan 26, 2011, 1:28 AM
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Province has 'extra measure of optimism' that feds will contribute funds for proposed stadium
By ANGELA HALL, Leader-Post January 25, 2011

REGINA — The provincial government has an "extra measure of optimism" that Ottawa might contribute cash to a proposed $431-million stadium in downtown Regina, amid increasing speculation that a federal Crown corporation could be used for such purposes, an official said Tuesday.

The federal government hasn't ruled out funding sports facilities through the P3 Canada Fund, an idea that has recently attracted national attention as Quebec City looks for help in building an NHL-style arena.

Saskatchewan's proposal was described in one media report this week as a "test case" that will determine how large sports infrastructure projects in Canada are handled.

Ron Styles, the provincial government's lead official on the project, said it's encouraging to publicly hear what the province has heard behind closed doors.

"I think this references exactly what (cabinet minister Ken Cheveldayoff) and myself have both been told through political channels as well as through P3 Canada — that they're going to have a look at the policy, they're going to make a decision on the policy, and is the potential there to use this as a bit of a test case as to whether you can do this kind of facility using P3 dollars or a P3 model," Styles said.

The Saskatchewan Party government applied last June for Ottawa to pay 20 to 25 per cent, or roughly $100 million, of the stadium's cost under the P3 Canada Fund, which is intended to provide money for public-private partnerships.

The criteria for the P3 Canada fund specifically "excludes facilities used primarily by professional athletes," but the province contends its proposal is for a multi-purpose entertainment facility that would serve as more than just the home of the Saskatchewan Roughriders.

There are also questions about whether the P3 funding criteria might be adjusted to better fit applications for sports facilities.

Conservative MP Tom Lukiwski said the question revolves around how the P3 Canada board, which operates at arm's length from government, interprets the rules around sports infrastructure projects. He acknowledged that approving a multi-purpose entertainment projects could flood the fund with stadium and arena related applications from across the country.

"I'm sure that that's part of the consideration and, quite frankly, I think that's why it's taken so long to come to the decision on a Saskatchewan proposal, because of the other considerations," Lukiwski said.

The Regina-Lumsden-Lake Centre MP said he encouraged the province to look to an existing pool of funds for potential federal support, knowing that new funding is not an option as the Conservative government seeks a return to balanced budgets.

But Lukiwski said the provincial government might also consider abandoning the "Cadillac version" of a retractable roof stadium and look at funding less expensive options without federal help.

"I believe there is sufficient money already committed between the private sector and the municipal and provincial governments that should they not want to wait until the P3 board has made its final decision, should they want to proceed expeditiously, they could probably go forward with some form of a project right now," Lukiwski said.

The provincial government believes $70 million in support could come from the private sector. Styles said that other options will be considered if the federal government doesn't come to the table.

"Until you start to hear back from the federal government, it's really tough to talk about the next options and what-ifs," he said.

Premier Brad Wall said Tuesday the government has heard nothing definitive from the federal government on the issue.

"They've been looking at, does this P3 program work for a stadium? What level of private money is needed? What about the amateur sport question? All these questions have been part of the deliberations and the discussion."

Wall said a change to the criteria for the P3 program wouldn't be unusual for that type of large-scale funding program.

And the flurry of interest from the Conservative government in the potential funding of a new arena in Quebec City to attract an NHL franchise "helps our case," said Wall.

-with files from James Wood

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Old Posted Jan 26, 2011, 2:27 AM
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It's nice to see that the window is starting to open as far as Federal/P3 funding, and I hope progress continues.

But when I read the general commentary about professional teams....

The rules governing the P3 fund allow proposals for “sports infrastructure,” but go on to exclude “facilities used primarily by professional athletes.”

Tom Lukiwski, a Regina-area Conservative MP who urged the Saskatchewan government to apply to the P3 Fund, says the province is talking up the other potential uses for the facility in the hope of making the case that it won’t be used “primarily” by the CFL. However he said no one has received a clear interpretation of the rule from the managers of the fund.


...I have to ask, why isn't someone suggesting that there should be an agenda established relating to CFL teams and cities. I don't think anyone would dispute that the CFL operates on a much smaller scale than the NFL, MLB, NBA or NHL does. The reality is it's two different worlds...how does the revenue of a CFL team compare to what the Leafs or Canadiens earn? I really don't see how you can lump them together in a blanket policy.

Beyond the financial difference between the NHL and CFL it's important to remember that the CFL is just that...the CANADIAN Football League. If they've got an extra billion why not earmark a portion of that for infrastructure in CFL cities. I think equitable funding for projects in Winnipeg, Hamilton and Saskatchewan would be well received. I'm not suggesting everyone gets $100 million, but even $30 or $40 million is a big boost. Beyond that if Halifax and Ottawa have stadium agendas in place, they should try to fall in line with the others listed.

That's not to say that Quebec City should be taken off the list, but I really think there needs to be a distinction between NHL and CFL.
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It's nice to see that the window is starting to open as far as Federal/P3 funding, and I hope progress continues.

But when I read the general commentary about professional teams....

The rules governing the P3 fund allow proposals for “sports infrastructure,” but go on to exclude “facilities used primarily by professional athletes.”

Tom Lukiwski, a Regina-area Conservative MP who urged the Saskatchewan government to apply to the P3 Fund, says the province is talking up the other potential uses for the facility in the hope of making the case that it won’t be used “primarily” by the CFL. However he said no one has received a clear interpretation of the rule from the managers of the fund.


...I have to ask, why isn't someone suggesting that there should be an agenda established relating to CFL teams and cities. I don't think anyone would dispute that the CFL operates on a much smaller scale than the NFL, MLB, NBA or NHL does. The reality is it's two different worlds...how does the revenue of a CFL team compare to what the Leafs or Canadiens earn? I really don't see how you can lump them together in a blanket policy.

Beyond the financial difference between the NHL and CFL it's important to remember that the CFL is just that...the CANADIAN Football League. If they've got an extra billion why not earmark a portion of that for infrastructure in CFL cities. I think equitable funding for projects in Winnipeg, Hamilton and Saskatchewan would be well received. I'm not suggesting everyone gets $100 million, but even $30 or $40 million is a big boost. Beyond that if Halifax and Ottawa have stadium agendas in place, they should try to fall in line with the others listed.

That's not to say that Quebec City should be taken off the list, but I really think there needs to be a distinction between NHL and CFL.
That is a very good point, well said.
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Hahahaha, this is gold!
i bet you the top floor it will be pure gold, do not undrestimate the power of the queen city
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