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Old Posted May 6, 2018, 5:24 PM
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Also jack white
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Eminem
Alice cooper
Mc5
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I don't know why the style eluded me earlier over Sunday coffee, but what I was meaning to state was the "Motown sound", and Motown records and not Stax..60'S Soul and funk music that Detroit is associated with..Not necessarily artists, but a sound..When you think about it, it's kind of odd how a car manufacturing town became famous for an entire genre of music..It would be like car plants or open pit mining projects opening up here in Ottawa which is a bureaucratic government town..Goes to show us how unexpected industries can spring up organically.

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Old Posted May 6, 2018, 7:47 PM
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Detroit isn't even in the top 12 amongst US cities for Fintech HQs / startups. It may very well have a Fintech industry, but to declare it a hub is (as I figured) beyond ridiculous.

http://finovate.com/friday-fun-finte...s-city-top-12/

But thanks for attempting to answer my question any way.

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Old Posted May 6, 2018, 8:28 PM
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London has a suprising industry in fim production, specialising in big budget Hollywood movies. I think it's used more than California, or anywhere in North America ...except for the state of Georgia (no 1)... so Atlanta film production over LA?

Antwerp - high end fashion on a par with Paris, Milan, London, NYC, Tokyo.

Beijing and Berlin have unseated Silicon Valley as the world's top tech hubs:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chynes/.../#e59cdca7acf2

Beirut and Belgrade for nightlife

Houston has the worlds largest concentration of healthcare and research institutes

Johannesburg - the largest 'dry' port in the world

Seoul - 7th most visited city in the world, more than NYC, and 4th largest tourist earner.
Singapore - worlds most visited city beating traditional title holders Bangkok, London and Paris (if counting daytrippers). For overnighters it's Bangkok no 1, London/Paris 2.

Athens is fast becoming one of the world's largest ports after being bought by China, as the gateway to Europe. Piraeus is now the worlds second largest passenger port, and Greece owns the world's largest shipping fleet.

Mexico City has the 8th largest city GDP in the world (2015), and the city proper (8 million) has a First World human development index on a par with S Korea - it's one of the biggest centres for luxury goods.

Jakarta - high end property investment - the global leader in returns in 2014
A lot of this isn't plausible.

Houston is pretty average for NIH grants. It has a large healthcare district, but that's largely about how local organizations are clustered (as well as some healthcare areas where its institutions are leaders), not about the city having that much.

Atlanta doesn't beat LA in film production.

Berlin over the San Francisco in tech? You've got to be kidding.
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Old Posted May 6, 2018, 8:37 PM
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Atlanta doesn't beat LA in film production.
As far as feature films, Atlanta did beat LA in 2016.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ne...y-says-1006912

But to your point, that was only one year
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Old Posted May 6, 2018, 8:53 PM
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These days the Bay Area is known for tech and tourism above all else, it seems, but there's a ton more to the economy than that. The financial industry is massive, there's a huge medical industry, a bunch of oil refineries (hell, Chevron is based here), and various ports (the port of Oakland is well known, but even SF itself has a working cargo port and dry docks, and the biggest Bay Area port by tonnage moved is actually the port of Richmond, thanks to the oil refinery there). There's also a pretty large manufacturing industry that builds things like clothing, semiconductors, buses, and fancy pants electric cars. Oh yeah, and there's a good amount of food production too, including the wine country that everyone knows about.
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Detroit isn't even in the top 12 amongst US cities for Fintech HQs / startups. It may very well have a Fintech industry, but to declare it a hub is (as I figured) beyond ridiculous.

http://finovate.com/friday-fun-finte...s-city-top-12/

But thanks for attempting to answer my question any way.
lol k, I'll take your word for it with some random old article source.

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As far as feature films, Atlanta did beat LA in 2016.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ne...y-says-1006912

But to your point, that was only one year
Atlanta beat Los Angeles in Motion Picture production but overall production, which includes commercials and television, was much stronger in Los Angeles.
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Toronto is one of the world's most important cities in the mining industry, for better or worse. Even most people here don't know that.

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2...y-built-mining
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Austin makes a lot of Vodka and Tequila. Deep-eddy Vodka, Titos Vodka, Enchanted Rock Vodka, Dripping Springs Vodka, Dulce Vida Tequila, Republic Tequila, Etc are all made here.
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Atlanta beat Los Angeles in Motion Picture production but overall production, which includes commercials and television, was much stronger in Los Angeles.
doesn't the production number fluctuate every year with state (and provincial) incentives?

I remember one year Lousiania was #1...now it's Georgia...

meanwhile I doubt any other jurisdiction in N America can rival LA in terms of overall jobs and firms in the entertainment industry. I think it's what, 150,000 jobs in LA ad 60,000 in NYC?
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I'll take your word for it.
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You can find some parts of a huge range of industries in most big developed cities I think (and most smaller ones too), but that doesn't mean they are a huge player in those industries compared with the most well known hubs. Every tiny town with one bank branch has a financial services industry but it doesn't mean they are a rival to Wall St.
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even SF itself has a working cargo port and dry docks,
I don't believe they do any more. When I was on active duty in the Navy, one of the ships I was responsible for underwent dry docking in SF but that facility is closed now.

Most cargo is handled on the Oakland side because it has a direct rail link going east whereas to get to and from SF by rail they have to come all the way up the Peninsula.
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Houston is pretty average for NIH grants. It has a large healthcare district, but that's largely about how local organizations are clustered (as well as some healthcare areas where its institutions are leaders), not about the city having that much.
The city of Cambridge, Mass receives more NIH grants than the entire state of Texas. Every year for the past 15+ years.
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You can find some parts of a huge range of industries in most big developed cities I think (and most smaller ones too), but that doesn't mean they are a huge player in those industries compared with the most well known hubs. Every tiny town with one bank branch has a financial services industry but it doesn't mean they are a rival to Wall St.
Nobody said anything about Wall St...

Quicken is the largest mortgage lender in the country (just usurped Wells Fargo), Ally Financial is one of the largest online banks, the fintech startups and associations are blossoming all over the region, it's absolutely significant. Whatever bar you're holding for the sacred word "hub" is just a manipulation of semantics used to derail a thread by a desperate troll.
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NYC, Toronto.........finance
San Fran, Seattle....hi-tech
Detroit...................cars
Cleveland, Pittsburgh.........steel
Calgary, Edmonton, Dallas, Houston...........oil
Boston.............education
LA....................film/entertainment
Washington, Ottawa.........government

Thanks, these examples are really surprising to me...
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NYC, Toronto.........finance
San Fran, Seattle....hi-tech
Detroit...................cars
Cleveland, Pittsburgh.........steel
Calgary, Edmonton, Dallas, Houston...........oil
Boston.............education
LA....................film/entertainment
Washington, Ottawa.........government
This is supposed to be a thread about industries you DON'T expect in a city, not all the well-known ones.
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doesn't the production number fluctuate every year with state (and provincial) incentives?

I remember one year Lousiania was #1...now it's Georgia...

meanwhile I doubt any other jurisdiction in N America can rival LA in terms of overall jobs and firms in the entertainment industry. I think it's what, 150,000 jobs in LA ad 60,000 in NYC?
Yeah, it fluctuates pretty wildly depending on what state has the best tax credits. A few years ago there was a little bit where Michigan was getting all the filming. Georgia has been building up their industry for a while though and are trying to give it more longevity. We shall see how well that goes.
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Yeah, it fluctuates pretty wildly depending on what state has the best tax credits. A few years ago there was a little bit where Michigan was getting all the filming. Georgia has been building up their industry for a while though and are trying to give it more longevity. We shall see how well that goes.
The current governor in Michigan rolled back majority of the film tax credits, so that's why they fell off in terms of production.

There's no signs of that happening in Georgia any time soon.
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