[Richmond] Aberdeen Centre Expansion | Mall Expansion & Office | 6 fl |Completed

[nova9]

Originally Posted by mr.x

NCIX??? is that a new tv show?


randomness.

it's only the BEST computer store in the city!!!

The original is on west broadway after granville.

[NewfBC]

Originally Posted by nova9

it's only the BEST computer store in the city!!!

The original is on west broadway after granville.

No, it's not. The original NCIX location is in Burnaby.

Ron.

[nova9]

Originally Posted by NewfBC

No, it's not. The original NCIX location is in Burnaby.

Ron.

oh what? my bad. i mean, i should have known considering it's in a new building. duh.

[CLC]

haven't visited aberdeen centre since NCIX opened, from the floor plan they have a huge store. Do their business really that good to afford the rent (compared to Capstan way plaza)?
http://www.aberdeencentre.com/en/dir...ils.php?id=205

[SpongeG]

i've found aberdeen to be quite busy - well if you judge it by the parking - its tought to get a good spot

[vansky]

aberdeen could've been bigger and better. After you've seen stuff like the times square in hong kong, or some bigger malls in shanghai, only the pacific center lives up to standard. size doesn't mean everything, japanese got some small and classic stuff. metrotown is like the best out of everything i've seen in canada. too bad erickson didn't design malls, and james cheng's all about condos. bin thom...

[NewfBC]

Originally Posted by nova9

oh what? my bad. i mean, i should have known considering it's in a new building. duh.

Well yeah.. but!... the Broadway location isn't the original Broadway location either! It moved into that space a couple years ago.

Ron.

[Vancity]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

i've found aberdeen to be quite busy - well if you judge it by the parking - its tought to get a good spot

Yeah. During Sundays, it's the worse. It's almost impossible getting a spot at Aberdeen on a Sunday afternoon. It seems like everyone is there. But it's a nice place to be when there's a lot of people there. The food court location is a bit strange, I'm not quite sure what the reasoning is for building it on the third floor, but nonetheless, the food court will attract people. Aberdeen has a lot of potential. I remember the old Aberdeen, when they had the bowling alley. I used to go there. Too bad they didn't decide to incorporate a movie theatre at Aberdeen, if they had, I think it would have done pretty well - maybe one day - for future expansion?

[BCPhil]

Originally Posted by CLC

haven't visited aberdeen centre since NCIX opened, from the floor plan they have a huge store. Do their business really that good to afford the rent (compared to Capstan way plaza)?
http://www.aberdeencentre.com/en/dir...ils.php?id=205

NCIX is huge. It's the only store I've ever been in where you need to take a number to get service because there are usually so many customers in the place there is no other way to guarantee they all get served. And everyone in there is buying something, very few lookieloos. I buy all my computer supplies there and every time I'm in the place it's packed like it's Boxing Day at Future Shop. I've even been into the one in Langley in the early afternoon and there are there are still enough customers you need to take a number.

And they do a lot of web business too. And their website is one of the only sites that have honest and accurate customer reviews of products, and a very active web community.

Although I am surprised they moved into Aberdeen. I imagine they were making a very pretty penny at their other place, but I suppose bringing their store closer to foot traffic will bring in more people. It helped quite a bit on their Broadway location; being across from the Future Shop has only increased the number of people in there.

[Zassk]

There is a parcel of land adjacent to the southwest (currently occupied by a generic asian strip mall) which I'm sure Aberdeen has its eyes on for future expansion. It would be a good location for either an anchor tenant or a cinema.

I guess as the Canada Line's influence grows, more of the neighouring lots around Aberdeen will densify.

[Yume-sama]

We could definitely use more movie theatres. An IMAX screen would be awesome....

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by CBeats

I'm surprised Pacific Centre is that big. I always thought that Park Royal was the biggest mall other than Metrotown.

I think Sears Pacific Centre alone is 600,000 sq ft (over 7 floors).
I doubt The Bay would be included since that not owned by Cadillac Fairview
(i.e. otherwise you'd have to lump Vancouver Centre into the equation since it's also "connected").


NCIX should generate a lot of traffic for the mall - I suspect there's a common demographic at work, too.

A movie theatre would be great, but with the merger of Famous Players and Cineplex a whaile back, there may be few options. Richmond Centre has the Famous Players and then there's Riverport. Cineplex (pre-merger) was going to build a movie complex east of Lansdowne Mall (where a condo now stands) but that fell through and post-merger the Cineplex next to Chapters (@Ackroyd) was closed.
I don't think Cinemark (i.e. Tinseltown) is expanding into Canada any more (Coquitlam plans were cancelled many years ago).
That leaves Alliance Atlantis, Empire Theatres (is there one in Richmond?) and AMC (there's one in Toornto, not sure if they are expanding in Canada much)

[BCPhil]

Originally Posted by Zassk

There is a parcel of land adjacent to the southwest (currently occupied by a generic asian strip mall) which I'm sure Aberdeen has its eyes on for future expansion. It would be a good location for either an anchor tenant or a cinema.

I guess as the Canada Line's influence grows, more of the neighouring lots around Aberdeen will densify.

Haha, well the current Aberdeen mall is second generation itself... replacing a mall built on that site in 1989! They built Aberdeen in 2001, replacing a mall that was less than 12 years old!

With the addition of Canada Line, any "legacy" strip malls near the No 3 road corridor are not long for this world. Same goes for the SFHs to the east of Aberdeen.

WRT a cinema: the plans for the development at Marine Drive station include a cinema. But personally I would like to see a large complex, like a silver city but preferably by a different company, like AMC (it's time that this Cineplex monopoly end), built near Bridgeport station. I would love to see that that part of town, with the Casino become a great night life and entertainment destination outside downtown Vancouver.

[Vancity]

Originally Posted by Yume-sama

We could definitely use more movie theatres. An IMAX screen would be awesome....

Highly doubt that ever happens. But it would be awesome to have an IMAX screen in Richmond (besides the one in Silvercity Riverport).

[jlousa]

The reason the food court is on the 3rd floor is standard mall operating procedure, there are two rules to successful malls one is called the dumb bell concept, you have two anchors at opposite ends of the mall, people walking between the two create traffic to the remaining stores. The other is you must have a great food court so that people do not leave the mall (Casinos use the same idea). The food court needs to be placed where it's easily accessible but where you need to go thru most of the mall to get to it. Great case in point is Metrotowns new food court.

[Yume-sama]

Originally Posted by jlousa

The reason the food court is on the 3rd floor is standard mall operating procedure, there are two rules to successful malls one is called the dumb bell concept, you have two anchors at opposite ends of the mall, people walking between the two create traffic to the remaining stores. The other is you must have a great food court so that people do not leave the mall (Casinos use the same idea). The food court needs to be placed where it's easily accessible but where you need to go thru most of the mall to get to it. Great case in point is Metrotowns new food court.

The biggest offender of this is Yodobashi Akiba in Tokyo, who has a food court on the 8th floor. You could TRY the elevators but they are very slow and limited, so you have to go up 8 escalators with flashy ads and sales people standing at the top of each escalator demonstrating a product with big loud speakers and flashy animations on the TV's behind them!

Grocery stores use the same method. They keep all the things you NEED and should buy on the outer walls. But as you walk around the outside you get distracted by the potato chip aisle

[mr.x]

Originally Posted by jlousa

The reason the food court is on the 3rd floor is standard mall operating procedure, there are two rules to successful malls one is called the dumb bell concept, you have two anchors at opposite ends of the mall, people walking between the two create traffic to the remaining stores. The other is you must have a great food court so that people do not leave the mall (Casinos use the same idea). The food court needs to be placed where it's easily accessible but where you need to go thru most of the mall to get to it. Great case in point is Metrotowns new food court.

Yea, that's really true. And the new Metrotown food court has really rejuvenated the east wing. Before it was built, that part was a bit less busier than the west.

[osirisboy]

Originally Posted by Yume-sama

The biggest offender of this is Yodobashi Akiba in Tokyo, who has a food court on the 8th floor. You could TRY the elevators but they are very slow and limited, so you have to go up 8 escalators with flashy ads and sales people standing at the top of each escalator demonstrating a product with big loud speakers and flashy animations on the TV's behind them!
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ugh that sounds horrible thank god we dont have that kind of crap here!!

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by jlousa

The reason the food court is on the 3rd floor is standard mall operating procedure, there are two rules to successful malls one is called the dumb bell concept, you have two anchors at opposite ends of the mall, people walking between the two create traffic to the remaining stores. The other is you must have a great food court so that people do not leave the mall (Casinos use the same idea). The food court needs to be placed where it's easily accessible but where you need to go thru most of the mall to get to it. Great case in point is Metrotowns new food court.

I wonder how Pacific Centre is doing with its food court in the middle?
I practically never venture down to Holt Renfrew - wonder if traffic has dropped a lot on that end of the mall?

[mr.x]

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1) The food court is doing really well. In fact, I could argue that the food court is a little on the small side both in terms of number of selections and seating.

2) The Holt Renfrew/Sport Chek side, particularly the basement, is quite dead. I like Holt Renfrew, but at the same time I really do miss the old water fountain atrium that was there....plus all those stores. I can only hope that Sears is redeveloped and a multi-leel mall expansion (plus a smaller Sears) is built.