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Old Posted Apr 12, 2017, 11:22 PM
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Proposed 22-storey tower on Scott Street worries councillor

Matthew Pearson, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: April 12, 2017 | Last Updated: April 12, 2017 4:32 PM EDT


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Council also approved the following development applications:
  • Westgate Shopping Centre redevelopment: Five mixed-use towers between Carling Avenue and Highway 417, ranging in height from 24 to 36 storeys.
  • Embassy West: This site at 1400 Carling Ave. currently has a five-storey retirement home, originally built as a hotel. The applicant wants to add two new towers, 10 storeys and 12 storeys; the 12-storey tower would feature an amenity room above the 12th storey.
  • 125 Marketplace Dr. and 101A Lindenshade Dr.: Minto wants to build a retirement home complex consisting of two buildings — eight storeys and nine storeys — on the vacant site located within the South Nepean Town Centre.
  • 47 Havelock St.: Surface Developments wants to build a new four-storey condo building with 23 units.

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Site Plan Control has been filed for Phase 1 (Monkey Joe's) 24 Story tower with 2 levels of underground parking.
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Site Plan Control has been filed for Phase 1 (Monkey Joe's) 24 Story tower with 2 levels of underground parking.
And so it begins! Not sure how they plan to sell all the units at Westgate and across the street at the soon-to-be-demolished hotel?? I suspect it will be North of a decade before either project is substantially complete.
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Site Plan Control has been filed for Phase 1 (Monkey Joe's) 24 Story tower with 2 levels of underground parking.
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With the proximity to Hampton Park, I question the choice of that greenspace on Carling in the 5th picture. If they could build an overpass, that could be an easy way for people to access Hampton and the dog park that doesn't require them to walk around and under the Queensway. Then that greenspace could be used for a midrise building/

In fact, if they could do something about the hydro towers on Merivale, then they could put a midrise building there, and make the road and parking lot behind the "Monkey Joe Building" a linear greenspace (provided shadows don't obscure it.

I kind of like the building proposed for Monkey Joe.
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Kitchissippi, River ward residents get close look at Westgate redevelopment plans

Bruce Deachman, Ottawa Citizen
Updated: January 22, 2019




Kitchissippi and River ward residents got their first look at detailed plans for the first phase of the redevelopment of Westgate shopping centre Tuesday night, with opinions mixed.

An open house at the Alexander Community Centre attracted about 100 people, who looked at site plans and elevation drawings for the proposal, and peppered councillors Jeff Leiper and Riley Brockington, as well as RioCan development vice-president Stuart Craig, with questions and concerns.

Phase 1 of the redevelopment will see a 24-storey mixed-use building erected at the corner of Carling Avenue and Merivale Road, where Monkey Joe’s restaurant currently sits. The design plan calls for 216 residential units — all apartments rather than condominiums — and 20,000 square feet of retail space.

According to Craig, negotiations are already ongoing to potentially see the Shoppers Drug Mart presently at the mall move into the first phase. RioCan, he added, would also like to see a grocery store move into the property, as well as restaurants, a coffee shop, LCBO or beer store, and other service retailers.

The first phase will include 192 underground parking spots, and 32 surface spots, as well as parking for nearly 200 bicycles. There is also a privately owned public park included in the plans.

Zoning approval, which designated how big the building will be and where on the site it sits and how much parking it requires, was granted by the city in June 2017. RioCan Real Estate Investment Trust, which owns the property, now needs its site plan control application approved, a process that, according to Leiper, could take six to nine months.

“These are more technical considerations,” said Leiper, “like where the garbage door is, and some of the materials they’re going to use, and landscaping.”

If the site plan is approved this year, says Craig, excavation could begin as early as this fall, or perhaps the spring of 2020. He estimates it would take two years from then before the first phase is completed. The overall project, which will see four more mixed-use buildings — two at 36 storeys and two at 22 storeys — may take 15 to 20 years to complete.



“People accuse me of being against everything,” said Leiper, “but I support this. Approving it was a relatively smooth process.

“We’re seeing all these really tall buildings going up on Scott Street, right next to single-family homes. But this is a relatively isolated site — you’re right on the arterial main street. This is a much better use than a big surface parking lot.”

Leiper added that OC Transpo is expected to up its game in the area with improved service on the No. 85 route on Carling Avenue. According to Brockington, the second phase of LRT in Ottawa, in 2021, will be accompanied by buses-only lanes along much of Carling Avenue, from Broadview to Bronson avenues.

Additionally, Leiper noted that the RioCan development will help ease the residential rental market in Ottawa. Recent figures, he said, showed Ottawa’s vacancy rate at a scant 1.6 per cent, about one-third of what is considered ideal.

And while community associations such as Carlington’s and the Civic Hospital Neighbourhood Association lent their support to the plan Tuesday, not all residents were won over. Some, including those in the Vets Neighbourhood across Carling Avenue, worried that construction and post-construction would see their tiny streets filled with parked cars. One person asked Craig if RioCan would consider including affordable housing in its plans (They would consider it, he said, but not promise anything right now), while another earned some applause when he criticized the proposed building as “uninspired design.”

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Kitchissippi, River ward residents get close look at Westgate redevelopment plans

Bruce Deachman, Ottawa Citizen
Updated: January 22, 2019


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Leiper added that OC Transpo is expected to up its game in the area with improved service on the No. 85 route on Carling Avenue. According to Brockington, the second phase of LRT in Ottawa, in 2021, will be accompanied by buses-only lanes along much of Carling Avenue, from Broadview to Bronson avenues.

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The line I emphasized makes me think that LRT for Carling is getting pushed off even further. Once they have their median bus-lanes, how will they be able to shut them down to convert to median LRT?

On the other hand, maybe building sections of median transit lanes can be done for buses, but an LRT would require the entire length at once. If the City can afford to build a short section of bus-lanes every few years, eventually an entire transit corridor will be created. This was also what was done for the Transitway. Sections that were most required (or easiest) were built first; with buses using existing road facilities between those sections. It allowed the worst sections for transit to be built first and spread the cost out over a long period of time. Of course, the draw-back becomes evident when the conversion to rail happens. A well used transit corridor needs to be completely detoured for a period of years.

Do you think that the City can design median bus facilities that can be easily converted for LRT, with a minimum of reconfiguration needed? Or will Carling get bus lanes from Lincoln Fields to Bronson and stick with those; never converting to rail?
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Old Posted Jan 23, 2019, 5:27 PM
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Glad to see the City is looking at bus lanes for Carling. In addition to higher frequencies and possibly transit priority at traffic lights, it could bring nearly as much benefits than surface LRT for a fraction of the cost.
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The line I emphasized makes me think that LRT for Carling is getting pushed off even further. Once they have their median bus-lanes, how will they be able to shut them down to convert to median LRT?

On the other hand, maybe building sections of median transit lanes can be done for buses, but an LRT would require the entire length at once. If the City can afford to build a short section of bus-lanes every few years, eventually an entire transit corridor will be created. This was also what was done for the Transitway. Sections that were most required (or easiest) were built first; with buses using existing road facilities between those sections. It allowed the worst sections for transit to be built first and spread the cost out over a long period of time. Of course, the draw-back becomes evident when the conversion to rail happens. A well used transit corridor needs to be completely detoured for a period of years.

Do you think that the City can design median bus facilities that can be easily converted for LRT, with a minimum of reconfiguration needed? Or will Carling get bus lanes from Lincoln Fields to Bronson and stick with those; never converting to rail?
I assume these bus lanes would be similar in concept to this study:
https://ottawa.ca/en/city-hall/publi...ority-measures

So, conversion of the curb lane to transit / right-turn only lanes from Broadview to Sherwood, then a median eastbound transit lane from Sherwood to Bronson.
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monkey joes has closed down.
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"...the second phase of LRT in Ottawa, in 2021..."

It's already 2019, phase 1 not yet open, phase 2 not yet started.
Will it really open in 2021?
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Leiper added that OC Transpo is expected to up its game in the area with improved service on the No. 85 route on Carling Avenue. According to Brockington, the second phase of LRT in Ottawa, in 2021, will be accompanied by buses-only lanes along much of Carling Avenue, from Broadview to Bronson avenues.
https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local...elopment-plans[/QUOTE]

Stage 2 west is expected to open in 2025-26. It might be that they plan on implementing bus lanes along Carling in 2021 to supplement the temporary Scott Street Transitway while the trench is being converted.

Bus lanes along Carling would help improve service. In my experience though, the main issue on Carling is not buses bunching up because of traffic (see Rideau-Montreal), but buses just not showing up. We'll see if Stage 1 and Stage 2 truly help improve reliability of the bus service as the City claims.
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2019-10-24: Application Approved.

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And here's the finalized ultimate siteplan:




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Monkey Joe's is demolished.
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I work part of my week at 1335 Carling and this construction is going to make for a very interesting few years! With the scale of the development, I expect we will eventually have to start charging for parking at our building in the not to distant future. This is one of the most central and due to redevelopment sites in the city but I do worry how car-centric things will be given the relative absence of rapid transit in the vicinity.
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Looks like construction on Phase One is underway or close to being underway. A number of machines are now on site.
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Monkey Joe's is demolished.
Sad to see it go. My wife and I ended our first date there (after seeing Jurassic Park at the Westgate Theatre) many years ago. I do like the new plan though.
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Sad to see it go due to the nostalgia... not just because of time I personally spent there but because Westgate was the last intact example of the many small neighborhood indoor malls that used to be all over the city. End of an era! The new development looks great I just wonder where all the retailers will move to, given that it seemed Westgate was completely occupied?
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Sad to see it go due to the nostalgia... not just because of time I personally spent there but because Westgate was the last intact example of the many small neighborhood indoor malls that used to be all over the city. End of an era! The new development looks great I just wonder where all the retailers will move to, given that it seemed Westgate was completely occupied?
How is it the last intact example of the many small indoor malls? There's still Hazeldean Mall, Elmvale Mall, Beacon Hill Mall, Barrhaven Mall, Kanata Town Centre, Gloucester Centre, La Village Place Cartier....off the top of my head.
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