2028 Canada/USA olympic bid

[Whalleyboy]

I dont know where to put this so thought this place would be best

So it looks like Vancouver ready to jump into the spot light again
But looks like we dont want to do it alone...we are asking Seattle, USA to join us in a joint bid
info from wiki

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada – Seattle, Washington, USA

A joint bid for Vancouver and Seattle to host the 2028 Summer Olympics is being explored. This would be the first time 2 countries made a bid together and would also be the first time that a city will have hosted both a Summer and a Winter Games since Vancouver will also host the 2010 Winter Olympics. Vancouver and Seattle both believe it would be possible to do and have said that the travel time between Seattle and Vancouver is similar to the travel time between Whistler, British Columbia and Vancouver, the site of most of the 2010 Winter Olympics.

http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/2028_Summer_Olympics

[Yume-sama]

Will never happen. I don't think the IOC would even let it happen.

[Distill3d]

I heard something about Denver gunning for the 2018 Winter Games and thought that it would be too soon after SLC 2002 and Vancouver 2010. 2028 would be alright, and Vancouver-Seattle bid would be interesting...though really, either city could host it by themselves. However, there would be too many issues with travel, it seems logistically impossible.

[Whalleyboy]

well Montreal is looking to do the same thing with Lake Placid in new york for the 2022
plus i dont see why not the olympics is about countries coming together how better then to have two countries host together

[Whalleyboy]

also with travel arent we looking to build a high speed rail between the cities lol

[Zassk]

The summer games are so massive and costly that I can see such joint bids becoming common by then. However, the last time I heard anything about the Van-Sea joint bid was in the mid-90's, before the 2010 winter bid was solidified.

[Yume-sama]

I hope Toronto gets it in 2020, though. SO, if they do, there is no possible way.

In 2028 Vancouver will be a vastly different, and bigger city. But... capable of hosting a Summer Olympics? That's for the much bigger boys

[ue]

This should have been posted in CE so more could see it. They're also planning to upgrade Amtrak from Eugene to Vancouver (BC) to HSR for these (potential) games.

[NetMapel]

Well, a Vancouver Sun article is referenced in that Wikipedia and it's dated 2006. I think they're obviously waiting until after 2010 to really look at how Vancouver handled the game and see where to go from here. What I find interesting is that article also said they're in talk to jointly pursue:

- 2018 World Cup of soccer
- a world's fair around 2020 or the 2028 Summer Olympics

Wonder what's going on with those bids now. Pretty big goals there

[mr.x]

Originally Posted by NetMapel

Well, a Vancouver Sun article is referenced in that Wikipedia and it's dated 2006. I think they're obviously waiting until after 2010 to really look at how Vancouver handled the game and see where to go from here. What I find interesting is that article also said they're in talk to jointly pursue:

- 2018 World Cup of soccer
- a world's fair around 2020 or the 2028 Summer Olympics

Wonder what's going on with those bids now. Pretty big goals there

A FIFA World Cup bid is a huge no:

1) World Cups are held by NATIONS, not regions. A Vancouver bid would also see every major Canadian city as host cities. We wouldn't be bidding with Seattle.

2) FIFA greatly disliked the Korea-Japan 2002 arrangement and have said they will never do that again.

[Yume-sama]

World cup of Soccer would be HUGE. We deserve it

[NetMapel]

Doesn't seem like it will happen though: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_an...World_Cup_bids

However, it is interesting to note that there are already two joint-countries there bidding for the World Cup together. So this may be a trend for future bidding as costs for hosting such event continues to rise.

Don't see Vancouver anywhere on there. Besides, it won't be fun because we won't even win one game in it Normally, we wouldn't even qualify but host nation automatically qualifies...

[Yume-sama]

Wait, Canada actually has a team? Nobody would come to cheer for Canada.

[mr.x]

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[jsbertram]

Originally Posted by mr.x

It will never happen nor would I want it to happen. A dual-nation host ruins the entire concept of an Olympic Games. It would not win with the IOC.

These are the IOC's venue requirements for the Summer Games host:

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Personally, for a Vancouver Summer Olympics I'd like to see four B.C. host cities: Vancouver, Richmond, Burnaby, West Vancouver, Victoria, Kelowna, and Calgary. I made the following list of venues quite awhile ago, however rugby and golf - the newest sports in the Games - have not been included yet as the venue requirements are not known:

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In addition, any real shot for Vancouver to host the Summer Olympics won't come until the 2030's. That's when the city realistically will be able to HOST them in addition to being actually able to win.

Um....
When did Calgary AB get annexed to BC?

If you're including Calgary, you might as well include Edmonton (just so they don't feel left out - and where some of the gov't cash to support the games comes from).

However, having the venues over 1000 KMs apart will be a logistical nightmare. just imagine visitors having to book hotel rooms, flights, car rentals and ferries to events that are happening in Vancouver, Victoria, Calgary and Edmonton over a week or two. What happens if an event in Calgary is postponed to the next morning - when you're supposed to be in Victoria that afternoon for a different event? Can your hotel reservation in Calgary be extended another day? will you lose your deposit for canceling a night in Victoria with less than 24 hrs notice?

How many Athlete's villages and media villages will have to be built?


If Canada gets a FIFA World Cup, you can be assured that the early games will be played across the country, but the semi's and finals will be in Toronto or Montreal. (gotta get the live TV audience on the US East Coast - aka New York)

[White Pine]

Montreal-Ottawa-Toronto anyone?

[mr.x]

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[NetMapel]

Let's not forget we also need, outside of competition venues:
- Training facilities for, possibly, all of these sports (There are training facilities for all the winter olympics sports, so I think they are needed for summer too)
- Olympics village (This is going to be, like, 10x bigger than our winter Olympics village)
- Media centre (This is also going to be super massive and the Vancouver Convention Centre + Canada Place won't be nearly big enough)

and, umm... probably a lot of other miscellaneous things I'm missing. Yeah, it's going to be massive and I honestly wonder if we got the space for them all within acceptable travel.

Originally Posted by mr.x

A FIFA World Cup bid is a huge no:

1) World Cups are held by NATIONS, not regions. A Vancouver bid would also see every major Canadian city as host cities. We wouldn't be bidding with Seattle.

2) FIFA greatly disliked the Korea-Japan 2002 arrangement and have said they will never do that again.

1) We don't even have enough stadiums to host the World Cup, so yeah, it's not going to happen until maybe 2050+

2) Yeah I've heard of that too, so I don't have any hopes we will win any joint World Cup bid. Either way, I go back to my first point about Canada's lack of stadiums. So yeah, not happening for MANY years.

[mr.x]

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[Distill3d]

Originally Posted by NetMapel

1) We don't even have enough stadiums to host the World Cup, so yeah, it's not going to happen until maybe 2050+

2) Yeah I've heard of that too, so I don't have any hopes we will win any joint World Cup bid. Either way, I go back to my first point about Canada's lack of stadiums. So yeah, not happening for MANY years.

Canada successfully hosted the FIFA U20 World Cup in 2007. If more money was actually spent promoting the idea of hosting the 2018 FIFA World Cup, there's no reason we couldn't pull it off.