CHICAGO | One South Halsted | 495 FT | 44 FLOORS - Page 21

J_M_Tungsten · #**401** Posted **Jul 16, 2018, 3:04 AM**

^ absolutely. Is anything planned for the Walgreens or the lot to the south?

Flaccer05 · #**402** Posted **Jul 18, 2018, 1:59 AM**

July 17

And we get another variation of parking podium facade on the Halsted frontage....

Kennedy side wrapped in nice continuation of glass and curves from tower itself. South side facing Crowne Plaza atrocious. West side facing Halsted tbd but not promising. What will the North side bring?! Beautiful tower and extension of western skyline but the pedestrian presence is shaping up to be quite a missed opportunity for a busy corner.

left of center · #**403** Posted **Jul 18, 2018, 2:58 AM**

^ Well, at least it covers the garage a bit better than the south side that's facing Crowne Plaza...

They put the nicer glass on the side facing the expressway where no one will see it. Instead, pedestrians and residents/guests will see the ass ugly side facing Halsted. Where is the logic in that?

aaron38 · #**404** Posted **Jul 18, 2018, 1:41 PM**

At least it looks good from the United Center. Bulks the skyline up a lot from that view.

left of center · #**405** Posted **Jul 18, 2018, 4:52 PM**

Does anyone know if there will at least be any retail facing Halsted at the base of the garage?

SolarWind · #**406** Posted **Jul 21, 2018, 7:04 AM**

July 18, 2018

k1052 · #**407** Posted **Jul 21, 2018, 12:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by left of center

Does anyone know if there will at least be any retail facing Halsted at the base of the garage?

IIRC, there is supposed to be about 10K square feet of retail facing Halsted and Madison.

Still amazing how much of a dog the podium glass screen is but how good the tower looks. I mean it looks almost intentionally shitty.

left of center · #**408** Posted **Jul 21, 2018, 6:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by k1052

IIRC, there is supposed to be about 10K square feet of retail facing Halsted and Madison.

That's good at least, should buffer the repulsiveness of the podium somewhat from street level.

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Originally Posted by k1052

Still amazing how much of a dog the podium glass screen is but how good the tower looks. I mean it looks almost intentionally shitty.

All they had to do was use the exact same glass on the podium as they did the tower, and this would've have been an all around gem of a tower. No clue who thought that partially covering the garage in frosted bathroom glass was a good idea. Had to be a budget saving move...

Notyrview · #**409** Posted **Jul 21, 2018, 6:40 PM**

Yeah this is where the city should regulate, at the base. Their should be approval for design, mandatory retail, and real caps on parking

pilsenarch · #**410** Posted **Jul 21, 2018, 9:46 PM**

^parking podiums are regulated for aesthetics, IIRC, but the problem here is that the renderings were totally misleading and in no way represent what is getting built...

Notyrview · #**411** Posted **Jul 21, 2018, 10:48 PM**

Right, so apparently that regulation is ineffective

jc5680 · #**412** Posted **Jul 21, 2018, 11:58 PM**

New day, new detail. Kind of a lot going on here.

Kumdogmillionaire · #**413** Posted **Jul 22, 2018, 4:38 AM**

barf

BuildThemTaller · #**414** Posted **Jul 22, 2018, 11:35 PM**

^^What in the world is going on in the corner of this thing? Are those LED panels???

left of center · #**415** Posted **Jul 23, 2018, 4:24 AM**

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Originally Posted by pilsenarch

^parking podiums are regulated for aesthetics, IIRC, but the problem here is that the renderings were totally misleading and in no way represent what is getting built...

Its no where near close to what the rendering shows. Completely different kind of glass, and its not even fully covering the north/south facades of the garage either. Unless this is an out of date rendering?

Source: downtownapartmentcompany.com

left of center · #**416** Posted **Jul 23, 2018, 4:25 AM**

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Originally Posted by BuildThemTaller

^^What in the world is going on in the corner of this thing? Are those LED panels???

It appears like its some kind of decorative steel grill, as per the rendering. Color seems a lot darker than the rendering suggests, though.

k1052 · #**417** Posted **Jul 23, 2018, 12:41 PM**

I'm actually excited to see how bad the entire package is. If the city ever gets off it's ass and firmly regulates how these structures are designed and programmed this should be Exhibit A when developers get offended that they aren't trusted.

Hose the city on the design/program should mean no occupancy permit for you till it's fixed.

VKChaz · #**418** Posted **Jul 23, 2018, 1:40 PM**

The rendering also shows the garage elevated over whatever form of retail or public space was to be included. The reality looks like any bad, stand-alone parking structure.

VKChaz · #**419** Posted **Jul 23, 2018, 1:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by k1052

I'm actually excited to see how bad the entire package is. If the city ever gets off it's ass and firmly regulates how these structures are designed and programmed this should be Exhibit A when developers get offended that they aren't trusted.

Hose the city on the design/program should mean no occupancy permit for you till it's fixed.

Does anyone or group ever go back to City Hall and say "hey, this is what we were promised but this is what we got"? Or anyone keeping track of variances by different developers? Because an actual log of all these cases could help in applying pressure going forward.

Rizzo · #**420** Posted **Jul 23, 2018, 7:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by VKChaz

Does anyone or group ever go back to City Hall and say "hey, this is what we were promised but this is what we got"? Or anyone keeping track of variances by different developers? Because an actual log of all these cases could help in applying pressure going forward.

Couldn’t happen here since the design review scope is limited

But that doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen elsewhere.

I do recall a case in Sioux Falls I think where the owners promised a certain house design that required landmarks review. They did a bait and switch after permit and the neighbors sued and demanded they tear down the house. The city agreed and the homeowners who had just completed construction sued the city. Went to court and the judge ultimately sided with the city and neighbors forced them to tear down the house. There was nothing problematic from a code perspective, but an aesthetic issue that was apparently too difficult to resolve.

In the case of this building, I don’t see anything blatantly dishonest, it’s just a slight variation in the glass screen. It’s that the renderings poorly convey the actual product, but still tell a similar story. Garage is clad in glass with louvers at the corners.