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Old Posted Oct 5, 2014, 10:34 PM
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[Burlington] Nautique | ? | 26fl | Under Construction

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Old Posted Oct 6, 2014, 1:44 AM
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If Burlington can keep churning these things out than hopefully Hamilton can at least keep pace.
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Old Posted Oct 8, 2014, 2:09 AM
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This one might get a rough ride. There's already been opposition to it from the ward councillor and others.
http://www.insidehalton.com/news-sto...-appleby-mall/
http://votemarianne.ca/downtown-wate...re-burlington/

I don't think a tall tower is that out of place, given the other development planned or under way on nearby blocks. The developer probably anticipates a request to reduce the height so I bet they proposed 28-storeys while being prepared to build 20-25.

Burlington's lack of available new development land means people have to get used to intensification, but it's going to remain a battle, especially in the centre of town. On some main streets elsewhere in the city there is plenty of space to add mid-rises, but something taller is acceptable downtown IMO. The trick will be balancing it against all the existing low-rise townhouses and older homes.
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Burlington feels development pressure
(Hamilton Spectator, Joan Little, Oct 23 2014)

Development in Burlington has been intensifying, but when does intensification become overintensification?

Today's game plan is for developers to apply for, say 20 storeys, so citizens feel they've won when the developer settles for 16, which was wanted all long.

Adi Developments is proposing a 28-storey condo, with 226 suites, on less than a third of an acre, on the small parking lot on the northwest corner of Lakeshore and Martha, on the fringe of downtown. To its west is a one-storey medical building, and to its north, a small home and new three-floor units. I live nearby.

One gentleman at the Oct. 9 neighbourhood meeting, attended by more than 100 people, asked what they really wanted. The answer was 28 storeys.

The site is so small it needs eight parking levels to provide 218 parking spaces — only 77 per cent of the required 283 tenant spaces. Parking standards downtown are the lowest in the city. By my calculation the proposed development would need about 393 spaces elsewhere, but wouldn't qualify anyway because the lot is too small.

Adi proposes five underground parking levels (a water table issue remains to be addressed), ground-floor retail, then three above-ground parking floors. Condos start on the fifth floor.

One astute observer noted that the depicted building appeared to encroach into the air space beyond their land, and asked if that was allowed. Planning director Bruce Kushelnicki stated that if that was the case, permission would be required. It would be addressed in the planning report.

He stressed that this was an information-gathering meeting. The planning department has not taken a position, and was there to hear concerns. The meeting was being held now because if a developer doesn't get an answer within 180 days (regardless of how complex the file is), it can take the city to the OMB, as Adi did on a recent application. Council will likely take its position in March.

Burlington's official plan (OP) allows a maximum of eight storeys through rezoning, providing "they are compatible with surrounding land use, and provide a sense of pedestrian scale." Mayor Rick Goldring told The Spectator he believes the OP is right in this area, and had said at the Ward 2 debate that he could not support that intensity there.

A 22-storey condo approved years ago south of the Lakeshore, not built yet, is to be the city's "landmark" building, Goldring said; so others should be subordinate. I was unable to find one higher than 17 storeys.


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Old Posted Oct 24, 2014, 2:56 PM
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A 22-storey condo approved years ago south of the Lakeshore, not built yet, is to be the city's "landmark" building, Goldring said; so others should be subordinate. I was unable to find one higher than 17 storeys.
That’s a crummy reason to institute a height limit: because you have chosen a building that doesn’t yet exist to be your “landmark” building. What if sales are bad and the developer lops off a few floors- would 18 storeys be the new height limit?

I’m usually not a fan of high-rise, but it sounds like Burlington would be getting something really good here. Parking requirements wind up meaning eight levels of parking, so how could a smaller building make economic sense for redevelopment?
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Old Posted Oct 25, 2014, 10:32 PM
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This kind of fight is going to become more common downtown. The sites that don't affect or encroach on existing land uses are becoming rare... in fact now that the waterfront is spoken for, there are probably no land parcels and lots that don't have a major impact on neighbours.
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I swear Burlington is trying to build a better skyline than Downtown.
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This thread needs a name change:

[Burlington] 374 Martha Street | ? | 28fl | Proposed ---> [Burlington] Nautique | ? | 28fl | Proposed
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I looks like a jumbled mess but hopefully the materials they use will make it look better when completed. I like a lot of the buildings in Burlington so I hope this one will have a positive impact on the area.
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"Nautique"? Like a naughty boutique? Subliminal sales pitch to particular market maybe?
Otherwise, Davy Jones is rollin' his good eye on the sea bottom, shakin' his head at the nautical word play...

I do want to see this built, but then I live in a mid-rise a few blocks away. And I can see how the locals in that immediate area (and some who live farther) don't like it.
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Nautique Rendering by Adi Developments, on Twitter

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BURLINGTON HIGH-RISE: City councillors reject revised plan for 26-storey condo at Lakeshore Drive

Hamilton Spectator By Teviah Moro 13 Oct 2016

BURLINGTON — City councillors have rejected a revised plan for a 26-storey condo tower across from the lakefront, setting the stage for an Ontario Municipal Board battle one called "the scary part."

"In my 10 years on council, I do not remember a development application proceeding in this manner," Mayor Rick Goldring said Wednesday.

"This is extremely unusual and it's not the way we have been doing business in the past, but we've been thrust into this particular situation."

Adi Development Group wants to build its 240-unit Nautique on a small lot at the corner of Lakeshore Road and Martha Street.

The city has rejected making the official plan and zoning amendments that would allow the developer to build to the desired height and density.

Burlington's official plan allows for a maximum of eight storeys where Adi wants to build.

In March 2015, the developer appealed its original application — 28 storeys and 226 units — to the OMB because council hadn't made a decision within the 180-day limit set by provincial legislation.

A year later, Adi was granted time to revise his plan to incorporate a recently purchased parcel next to the parking lot eyed for the tower.

The OMB also ordered the city to review Adi's revamped plan — 26 storeys and 240 units — and hold a public meeting on the matter by mid-October.

A staff report calls the new application "overdevelopment" and not "good planning."

CEO Tariq Adi defends his proposal, arguing it will breathe more life into downtown by bringing in younger condo owners who will spend money in the core.

The Nautique's "world-class design" also has ample parking with its 241 spaces on six underground levels, Adi says.

But the developer also points to a 22-storey luxury condo complex, the Bridgewater, and hotel that New Horizon is already building just across the street on the lakeshore as a measure of the city's hypocrisy.

But Adi's plan has been met with considerable backlash with residents worrying about the traffic congestion, parking problems and looming presence it could pose for the area.

"The waterfront is no place for tall buildings," Deedee Davies told councillors at Thursday's development and infrastructure meeting.

Building height should start low at the waterfront and rise as Burlington slopes into the escarpment, she said. "That way everyone gets to share our beautiful waterfront."

The 22-storey Bridgewater is "already a bad precedent," and Adi's Nautique will "open the floodgates," Davies warned.

Coun. Marianne Meed Ward agreed: "Tall buildings tend to lead to more tall buildings."

But the Ward 2 councillor said the Bridgewater comes with public shoreline access.

"So what are we getting with the Adi development? Just a tall building and I think the community loses."

Adi has argued the chance to discuss benefits is "out the window" with his application before the OMB.

A failure to hash out a "reasonable solution" with Adi puts the city in a bad spot, Coun. Blair Lancaster suggested.

"So now we're into the scary part. This is the risky part … We're now handing over our decision to the OMB."

Council must give a final endorsement of the planning staff report that rejects Adi's revised proposal on Oct. 24.

An OMB pre-hearing is scheduled for Oct. 27 with a full hearing set for Feb. 21. 2017.

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If Burlington doesn't want it we'll take it in Hamilton
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Yeah, seriously.
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The OMB approved it ---> http://ward2news.ca/development/just-omb-decision-released-adi-proposal-martha-lakeshore-allows-26-storeys/

This thread needs a name update from [Burlington] Nautique | ? | 26 fl | Proposed to [Burlington] Nautique | ? | 26 fl | Approved
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On it goes... the city has asked the OMB to review their decision that favoured the developer.
https://www.thespec.com/news-story/8...ding-approval/
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wow that's deep!
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I believe this is the second deepest parking garage ever built in the province, behind only the 8-level Shangri-la parking garage in Toronto.
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Should be lots of fun driving up and down all the ramps. Never mind navigating each level to and from a parking spot, as it looks like it will be pretty tight amongst the support columns... it's a fairly small site, isn't it?
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