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Old Posted Jul 16, 2013, 1:00 AM
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No, this isn't a Iowa Picnic.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thedailymirror/1959/

Sept. 16, 1959: Groundbreaking for Dodger Stadium.
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Getting on 2nd base was hard, but it was all downhill from there.

On L.A. Noire, this hill has an old farm house on it.

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Old Posted Jul 16, 2013, 2:31 AM
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I just came across this photograph of the Culver City Speedway, circa 1924.

be sure to pan right-->

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Los-Angeles-...item3f151c0678

It's so much larger than I ever imagined. Now I understand the importance of this racing venue (located just south of the old MGM Studios).
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Old Posted Jul 16, 2013, 3:43 AM
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R. "Irish" Shelton's Cornhusker Cafe


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The Cornhusker Cafe site today. 6700 S. Vermont Ave.

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Cornhusker Cafe is certainly an odd name for a bar in Los Angeles. My high school in Illinois eventually consolidated with a neighboring town where our team became the Hoopeston Cornjerkers. Needless to say, when I found this matchbook I had a bit of a flashback.
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Old Posted Jul 16, 2013, 4:06 AM
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I just came across this amazing photograph of the Culver City Speedway, circa 1924.

be sure to pan right-->

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Los-Angeles-...item3f151c0678

It's so much larger than I ever imagined. Now I understand the importance of this racing venue (located just south of the old MGM Studios).
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Interesting photo on several levels. As you know, the Beverly Hills Track was also called the Los Angeles Speedway and its last race was in March of '24. Doubts are laid to rest given the barely legible handwritten notes: "Culver City" and "December 24" (the date of the first race.) The large building in the background toward the left of the track is probably the newly erected Culver Hotel (September '24).

Not surprisingly Culver was home to a cottage racing industry. An informative article >> http://culvercityhistoricalsociety.org/?p=977 lists a number of players and their former addresses. To those familiar with flat head Fords most of these pioneers are household names.

Cam grinder Ed Winfield, first located at 5977 Washington Boulevard.

Karl and Veda Orr, (land speed racers) had a shop at 11140 Washington Place.

Jesse Sanford “Sandy” Belond opened his own shop at 11039 Washington Boulevard.

George Newnam's Norden Machine Works (racing parts manufacture) at 5453 West Washington Boulevard.

Ted Halibrand established Halibrand Engineering on Marilyn Avenue.

Edward “Isky” Iskenderian, who learned the cam-grinding business from Ed Winfield, first located at 5977 Washington Boulevard in Culver City before building on a vacant lot at 6338 West Slauson Avenue.






Ed Winfield in his car at Ascot Park, 1928
http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/v...v/scan0006.jpg


Karl and Veda

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_i_AovfzNXg...acing%252B.jpg





http://blog.hemmings.com/wp-content/...rr_01_1000.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ndVedaOrr2.jpg


http://blog.hemmings.com/wp-content/...rr_03_1000.jpg


"Taix" restaurant. (Mentioned several times on this thread)




Anyone know of a car wash close to the Cinerama Dome on Sunset? http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=6724
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_i_AovfzNXg...acing%252B.jpg




Ted Halibrand and his magnesium castings, "mags."
http://assets.hemmings.com/story_ima...88-0.jpg?rev=2



Ed Iskendarian - no address or date, but it sure looks like it was on the Helms bakery route!
http://www.myrideisme.com/Blog/wp-co...t-roadster.JPG

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Old Posted Jul 16, 2013, 4:43 AM
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Downtown newspaper stand, Los Angeles circa 1966

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details: a kiosk on wheels.....noirish florescent lighting....basically very cool.


-not sure of the exact address.
Harrison Albright's 1910 Consolidated Realty Bldg at Sixth and Hill was a big Beaux Arts beast but received a cleanlining by Beelman in '35; this image from 1966 shows Beelman's work and was shot one year before another facade reworking was to be had, this time by some unknown.



The cool newsstand has been replaced by a 1988 building which, were I challenged to sketch a parody of 1988 buildings, wouldn't look as silly as that.

In the 1966 image note the Knickerbocker on Olive St in the bg; it's a 1913 by Austin & Pennell. She had about four years left before what arguably stands as the worst modernization downtown (with possible exception of the Haas Bldg) -- behold the 1970 masterpiece of Morganelli-Heuman & Associates:

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Old Posted Jul 16, 2013, 4:47 AM
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Thank you Beaudry, I knew you would come through.
I agree, the 1988 building that replaced the news stand is absolutely awful; it looks like a reject from 'Logan's Run'.
-and no wonder I couldn't locate the Knickerbocker on Olive, it's been all but destroyed.

What were these people thinking!?!
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Old Posted Jul 16, 2013, 5:23 AM
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Godzilla, What a great post! Thanks!

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Old Posted Jul 16, 2013, 5:26 AM
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Er, ER,

I was thinking "Beam me up Scotty". Or perhaps the Orgasmaton (looks like eight of them here) from Woody Allen's "Sleeper".

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Old Posted Jul 16, 2013, 8:29 AM
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Unusually for such stamps, the firm of Tryon & Brain were nice enough to include their address: "508-9 Merchants Trust Co. Bldg." I'm going from memory of research from a couple of weeks ago, but I believe the physical address of this building was 209 S Broadway. Below is a nice image I found on Brent Dickerson's CSULB page:


(via http://www.csulb.edu/~odinthor/socal6.html)

Do we know anything else about this building? Naturally, I could find no references using the forum's next-to-useless search engine.

I'm pretty sure we covered this'un, but if not, here she is again --

-- let's start a little earlier, so we're looking down B'way across Second:

huntington

It's June 1889. Brand new buildings galore. There's the California Bank Bldg at Second, 1887, Newsom Brothers, where Sumner Hunt had his offices and where he designed the Bradbury Bldg. Further down is the 1888 YMCA by Coxhead & Coxhead, and the third building down is the 1888 Potomac Block by Curlett & Eisen. For our purposes we're going to look at the YMCA:



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In 1903 some of LA's fancy financiers filed articles of incorporation for Merchants' Trust, whose capital stock was 500k divided into 500 shares. Their offices were in the Bradbury Bldg, but that wasn't good enough; they bought the YMCA a stone's throw away and announced they were going to add two stories (à la the Bryson Bonebrake [also a Newsom creation] addition that removed the towers, one imagines) and fit the whole thing with offices.

They apparently decided a great Romanesque pile was too outmoded, because they hired Dennis & Farwell to replace it and who in 1905 produced one amazing Sullivanesque structure; it is at least evident D&F were aware of the Wainwright and/or Guaranty.

usc

Too cool.

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But here's the thing, most people remember this as a Water & Power building. The original offices were on Marchesseault, naturally -- named for LA's water overseer (and mayor) who shot himself in City Hall council chambers -- and when they proved too small they bounced around to various buildings, and in 1909-10 were going to build a five-story at Fifth and Olive; couldn't get it together, and the land was bought by the Biltmore folk. In 1921 Water & Power buy Merchants' Trust and it remains DWP until '65 (I know, the naming gets confusing; there actually was no DWP until 1937, when the Bureau of Water Works and Supply consolidates with the Bureau of Power and Light and becomes the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power), in that '65 of course is when the GOB, as it was known, was inaugurated. (As the DWP General Office Building was known as the GOB it will forever therefore just be GOB.)

w&p

But take a look at that super-cool ultra-modern building that's replaced the California Bank. That's a Paul C. Pape (best known for his luxury apartment hotels) from 1911 built for C. Wesley Roberts. It's later known as the Civic Center Building.

w&p

But you know what's really amazing, is that they're both still there.

w&p
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Not that there isn't some charm to the 1964 modernization by William Hirch, but...from what I hear tell the facade changes are pretty cosmetic and those Louis Sullivan portholes can still be seen from within! There's nothing structural (despite what the owner claims, apparently) about the facade changes and I can only wistfully contemplate how cool it would be to return them to their former glory.

Granted, we may never quite get back to their former glory, exactly...

w&p
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...but then, who knows?
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Photos marked as "1919"



Deputy Meyerhoffer is in the middle:





Meyerhoffer, Clark and Hester with speed record plane, 1919 Presumably taken at Venice/Ince Field

All from: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/


Remember to stay within the posted speed limit unless you are in an unlimited jurisdiction and can outfly Otto.

Plane flying above Beverly Hills Speedway, 1918





Los Angeles Aerial Squad - December '26


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What did auto racing in Culver City and the local vicinity have to do with Aviation and Rock and Roll?

This thread previously touched on Eddie Rickenbacker who raced on several local tracks in the teens. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=10740 Rickenbacker eventually enlisted in the US Army for WWI. His skills as a driver and mechanic stood him in good stead with the Army as he became the chauffeur for Am. Expeditionary Force Gen. John Pershing. During the War Eddie transitioned into winged combat and garnered national acclaim as America's first ace and Medal of Honor recipient. After the war, Eddie was feted around the country, and LA was no exception (see below). The LA Examiner capitalized on his fame by starting a club bearing his name.

http://www.flyingtigerantiques.com/m...kclbwngobv.jpg




http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1919-Capt-EDDIE-RICKENBACKER-Day-Program-Los-Angeles-/18/!B64GBcQEWk~$(KGrHqYOKjYEyqJHDEEBBMyjCTsqgg~~-1_3.JPG

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Eddie flew in and out of the local So Cal airfields and he was no stranger to So Cal's fledgling aircraft industry where he participated with other pioneers from Lindberg to Douglas to Howard Hughes. This included mapping out and competing for air mail routes which were the precursors for commercial aviation routes, testing aircraft and influencing design, and steering the commercial aviation business with politician, industrialists and the public. Most can read elsewhere for Eddie's ventures into the auto industry with the Rickenbacker auto (first car with 4 wheel brakes) mentioned in this thread http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=3134 and the fact that Eddie helped steer Eastern Airlines into a viable concern.


1925 - Intersection of Figueroa Street and Venice Boulevard. Rickenbacker dealership.
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics08/00013949.jpg


Rickenbacker Straight 8 '25. So Cal Location?
http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0




Pelton Motors, 254 W Colorado Blvd, Pasadena
http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0






Terminus of record setting flight by Rickenbacker and Frye from LA to Newark. Note name on aircraft nose.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3162/3...f5ffa60e_o.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3243/3...d2da11be_b.jpg




In Oct '42 Eddie made more headlines when he was adrift at sea for 24 days in the Pacific. He was rescued and returned safely.

As Hollywood loves comebacks, Eddie's life became the stuff of cinematic dreams portrayed by Walter Neff, er um Fred MacMurray.

http://www.dbcovers.com/imagenes/pel...eddie_1945.jpghttp://farm5.staticflickr.com/4012/4...93b132a3_b.jpg


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Eddie Rickenbacker with his mother, Elizabeth Rickenbacher, after his rescue from the Pacific. Rickenbacker was lost at sea for twenty-four days after the B-17 he was on went down in the Pacific in October, 1942. News story on verso reads, "Tearful Greeting - Los Angeles -- Grey-haired Mrs. Elizabeth Rickenbacher and the son she refused to give up fro lost, Capt. Eddie Rickenbacker, embrace as Rickenbacker arrives in Los Angeles enroute to the East. Mrs. Rickenbacker is a resident of Beverly Hills, Calif. 12-18-42." http://www.flickr.com/photos/auburnu...n/photostream/
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3030/3...7fea7ac8_b.jpg


Grey haired Elizabeth Rickenbacher (Eddie changed the spelling of his last name to make it less German) is not listed in the '42 directory. But Adolph Rickenbacher, the founder of the Rickenbacher Manufacturing Company is listed at 4910 Angeles Vista Blvd. (Still exists) http://rescarta.lapl.org:8080/ResCar...er&submit=Find In '42 it looks like the company was located at 6071 S. Western Avenue. At some point Adolph changed the spelling of his name like his distant cousin - Eddie - to capitalize on Eddie's fame. It evidently didn't hurt as the Rickenbacker Manf. Co gained fame for making, among other things - electric guitars.http://www.rickenbacker.com/history_early.asp


Before name change.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...gK-N7-wPr-VQKf



G. Harrison and his '63 Rickenbacker
http://blog.sharemyguitar.com/wp-con...son-360-12.jpg
http://johnlennonbeatles.com/wp-cont...ckenbacker.jpg

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That's a lot of Rickenbacker. But my favorite story about Eddie is his reply when asked his opinion on the fabric to be used on the seats of Eastern's new fleet of Burbank-built 88-passenger Constellations. Rickenbacker replied something like, "all I care about seeing on those seats are 88 asses."


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This area evokes many parts of this thread. The Coronet Theater (first Troubador) and the middle-of-the-road Oil Derrick. But who can forget . . .

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The scary man in the photo is comedian Stan Ross, the "I'm With You" guy from the Jonathan Winters show.
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Beverly Park...fun, yet rather sleazy.

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Harrison Albright's 1910 Consolidated Realty Bldg at Sixth and Hill was a big Beaux Arts beast but received a cleanlining by Beelman in '35; this image from 1966 shows Beelman's work and was shot one year before another facade reworking was to be had, this time by some unknown.





And here's what the the view was in 1923:


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1925 - Intersection of Figueroa Street and Venice Boulevard. Rickenbacker dealership.
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics08/00013949.jpg




Rickenbacker - Bunker Hill and beyond.


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“When asked by a peace officer to produce [his] driver’s license, [Rickenbacker] always would show them [his] solid gold life membership card from the Los Angeles Elks Lodge #99. It always did the trick.” http://www.curbsideclassic.com/autom...t-didnt-he-do/

BPOE Lodge 99 -> http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=8943


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1955 - Connie over LA
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5099/5...1261c546_b.jpghttp://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=9138
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That's a lot of Rickenbacker. But my favorite story about Eddie is his reply when asked his opinion on the fabric to be used on the seats of Eastern's new fleet of Burbank-built 88-passenger Constellations. Rickenbacker replied something like, "all I care about seeing on those seats are 88 asses."


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GW, thanks for including the link to kemon1's flicker site. What a wealth of aircraft history in photos!

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Electric Theatre 262 South Main Street

Dear all, in particular @ethereal_reality @gsjansen @POLA @westkork @beaudry @godzilla Great blog! I would love to have an idea about how the 262 South From Main Street looked like. There are pictures from St. Vibiana and from the corner with 3rd Street (the Gray hotel), but never saw one with the Liberty theatre and the two strorey building where the Electric, then Lyric, then GLockner's Theatre used to be. It shoudn't be that difficult since it is said that 262 South Main Stret was the same building until the destruction to build the parking. Can someone help me with that?
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Mr. Graybeard, Greenblatt's Delicatessen moved where Fongs' was in the same building. The Laugh Factory is on the corner now.
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