HomeDiagramsDatabaseMapsForum About
     

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Discussion Forums > Buildings & Architecture > Completed Project Threads Archive


 

 
Thread Tools Display Modes
     
     
  #241  
Old Posted Jun 28, 2017, 5:02 PM
iamfishhead iamfishhead is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 202
Quote:
Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
The rebar for the columns is extending straight up several feet above the forms (above the construction workers' heads). My guess is that if this were the roof, the rebar would be bent at 90 degree angles at a much lower point.

They also really need to raise the crane, as they've been working *around* it now for several days.
Maybe it'll be a permanent feature!
     
     
  #242  
Old Posted Jun 28, 2017, 7:03 PM
pseudolus pseudolus is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Mission Terrace, SF
Posts: 705
Quote:
Originally Posted by iamfishhead View Post
Maybe it'll be a permanent feature!
reminds me of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_M...s_Steam_Shovel
     
     
  #243  
Old Posted Jul 2, 2017, 10:48 AM
timbad timbad is offline
heavy user of walkability
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Mission Bay, San Francisco
Posts: 3,150
Quote:
Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
...

They also really need to raise the crane, as they've been working *around* it now for several days.
     
     
  #244  
Old Posted Jul 4, 2017, 11:32 PM
iamfishhead iamfishhead is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 202
Another picture and a crane jump. They're probably getting close to going to steel.

2017-07-04 13.10.51 by Joshua Goldstein, on Flickr

2017-07-04 13.11.01 by Joshua Goldstein, on Flickr
     
     
  #245  
Old Posted Jul 5, 2017, 5:09 AM
pseudolus pseudolus is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Mission Terrace, SF
Posts: 705
Quote:
Originally Posted by iamfishhead View Post
Another picture and a crane jump. They're probably getting close to going to steel.
Thanks for the pics. I'm pretty convinced myself that the podium is 11, not 8, storeys.
     
     
  #246  
Old Posted Jul 5, 2017, 6:25 PM
iamfishhead iamfishhead is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 202
Quote:
Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
Thanks for the pics. I'm pretty convinced myself that the podium is 11, not 8, storeys.
Considering that we're looking at the 9th story, 8 seems to be incorrect.
     
     
  #247  
Old Posted Jul 5, 2017, 7:44 PM
Pedestrian's Avatar
Pedestrian Pedestrian is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 24,177
What we are looking at could be the roof of the podium/8th floor or the 9th floor. If they put up rebar that looks like it's for full height columns for another floor, I guess we'll know.
__________________
Rusiya delenda est
     
     
  #248  
Old Posted Jul 5, 2017, 8:25 PM
SoCal Alan SoCal Alan is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 242
Quote:
Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
Thanks for the pics. I'm pretty convinced myself that the podium is 11, not 8, storeys.
I think it's going to be 11 floors. The website leasing info shows 11 floors:

http://www.parktowerattransbay.com/leasing

and the website pictures show that it's 11 floors.

Plus, the rebar, where there would be a roof, protrudes higher than what I think the roof would cover.
     
     
  #249  
Old Posted Jul 6, 2017, 2:28 AM
iamfishhead iamfishhead is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 202
Quote:
Originally Posted by SoCal Alan View Post
I think it's going to be 11 floors. The website leasing info shows 11 floors:

http://www.parktowerattransbay.com/leasing

and the website pictures show that it's 11 floors.

Plus, the rebar, where there would be a roof, protrudes higher than what I think the roof would cover.
Like Salesforce, I'm betting that they'll keep the core of the building as reinforced concrete. The structure around it will change to steel.
     
     
  #250  
Old Posted Jul 7, 2017, 12:25 AM
Pedestrian's Avatar
Pedestrian Pedestrian is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 24,177
Today some full floor height rebar column cages for the 9th floor went up so there really can't be any more doubt that the podium is more than 8 floors; almost certainly 11 as shown in the most recent renderings.

As for the central core, there can be little doubt that will be poured concrete to the top--I've never seen a core switch construction methods, from concrete to steel, midway. Even doing that for the rest of the frame is unusual but I will accept the word of others here to expect it on this building. We should soon know for sure.
__________________
Rusiya delenda est
     
     
  #251  
Old Posted Jul 7, 2017, 2:59 AM
iamfishhead iamfishhead is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 202
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedestrian View Post
Today some full floor height rebar column cages for the 9th floor went up so there really can't be any more doubt that the podium is more than 8 floors; almost certainly 11 as shown in the most recent renderings.

As for the central core, there can be little doubt that will be poured concrete to the top--I've never seen a core switch construction methods, from concrete to steel, midway. Even doing that for the rest of the frame is unusual but I will accept the word of others here to expect it on this building. We should soon know for sure.
It's unusual, but certainly not unprecedented. 731 Lexington Avenue in NYC is steel on the bottom for offices and then concrete on the top for residences.
     
     
  #252  
Old Posted Jul 8, 2017, 9:21 PM
fimiak's Avatar
fimiak fimiak is offline
Build Baby Build
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 965
If you look closely you can see Park Tower's distinctive slant being formed out of concrete. Two more floors and the Eastern edge will be set back.

__________________
San Francisco Projects List ∞ The city that knows how ∞ 2017 ∞ 884,363 ∞ ~2030 ∞ 1,000,000
San Francisco Projects ThreadOakland Projects ThreadOceanwide Center - 275M/901'
     
     
  #253  
Old Posted Jul 9, 2017, 6:20 PM
SoCal Alan SoCal Alan is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 242
Quote:
Originally Posted by fimiak View Post
If you look closely you can see Park Tower's distinctive slant being formed out of concrete. Two more floors and the Eastern edge will be set back.
Yeah, I was always wondering about that second from the left pillar/column looking a little uneven... Now I know why..
     
     
  #254  
Old Posted Jul 9, 2017, 6:30 PM
Pedestrian's Avatar
Pedestrian Pedestrian is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 24,177
Quote:
Originally Posted by fimiak View Post
Park Tower's distinctive slant
Am I alone in disliking that aspect of the design?
__________________
Rusiya delenda est
     
     
  #255  
Old Posted Jul 9, 2017, 8:51 PM
viewguysf's Avatar
viewguysf viewguysf is offline
Surrounded by Nature
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Walnut Creek, California
Posts: 2,028
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedestrian View Post
Am I alone in disliking that aspect of the design?
You probably are.
     
     
  #256  
Old Posted Jul 9, 2017, 9:58 PM
pseudolus pseudolus is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Mission Terrace, SF
Posts: 705
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedestrian View Post
Am I alone in disliking that aspect of the design?
That and the balconies are the only interesting things about the design.
     
     
  #257  
Old Posted Jul 10, 2017, 3:15 AM
Pedestrian's Avatar
Pedestrian Pedestrian is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 24,177
Quote:
Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
That and the balconies are the only interesting things about the design.
I like the balconies though I think they are probably uneconomic and may not get as much use as the architect thinks because of wind. But that wierd out-of-plumb shape to the tower!
__________________
Rusiya delenda est
     
     
  #258  
Old Posted Jul 10, 2017, 4:34 AM
pseudolus pseudolus is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Mission Terrace, SF
Posts: 705
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedestrian View Post
I like the balconies though I think they are probably uneconomic and may not get as much use as the architect thinks because of wind. But that wierd out-of-plumb shape to the tower!
I think it helps to tie together what would otherwise be some clumsy massing. But I'm not an architect.
     
     
  #259  
Old Posted Jul 10, 2017, 7:42 AM
viewguysf's Avatar
viewguysf viewguysf is offline
Surrounded by Nature
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Walnut Creek, California
Posts: 2,028
Quote:
Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
I think it helps to tie together what would otherwise be some clumsy massing. But I'm not an architect.
I agree with you, plus the balconies are rather sheltered from the wind. I predict they will be popular. My deck is often warm and not windy; people who live on the West side have a different perspective of conditions.
     
     
  #260  
Old Posted Jul 11, 2017, 6:24 PM
Pedestrian's Avatar
Pedestrian Pedestrian is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 24,177
9th floor poured today.
__________________
Rusiya delenda est
     
     
This discussion thread continues

Use the page links to the lower-right to go to the next page for additional posts
 
 
 

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Discussion Forums > Buildings & Architecture > Completed Project Threads Archive
Forum Jump


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 5:29 AM.

     
SkyscraperPage.com - Archive - Privacy Statement - Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.