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Old Posted May 17, 2007, 6:10 PM
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yay! and to think, in another 5 years, we may actually see the tower coming out of the ground!!!
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By then it should be complete.
     
     
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i remember the good 'old days when they said the towers should finish early '08.
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i think that if it moved along that fast....and been done by 08' the project as a whole wouldnt have been at its full potential and planning was just a rish to get it up and done....eitherway...i think people would complain. I think its great to see work being done...and its exciting to see these two cranes now building upwards!
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Cool! For the benefit of those of us who are 1,000 miles away (and wish we wern't), you mind snappin a few pics of that?
You're not the only one who is a long way away from NYC, although I am much closer than you. I would love to work in downtown Manhatten (now).
     
     
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By then it should be complete.
I think that was a failed attempt at humor...
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Look out below! Billions worth of building down at the W.T.C.

By Josh Rogers

Construction costs

The Port’s leaders said buying steel and concrete has become like buying in a commodities market, and a nationwide construction slowdown does not help prices because they are competing with China and the rest of the world for materials.

Construction contracts for the Freedom Tower, which the Port is paying Silverstein to build, are about 50 percent completed so it is safer from cost overruns than the memorial. More and more steel is rising from the ground on the 1,776-foot tower, expected to become the world’s tallest building.

Shorris said progress on the site is exactly where it should be, but there are three steps needed before the reality reaches the public. The first has been taken — getting actual work underway. The second will come shortly — having cranes below street level — visible to passersby. The third should come next year when much of the site will be built up to street level and people can monitor the work themselves.

The Port is a bi-state agency created by Congress and is also responsible for the PATH commuter lines and many of the region’s tunnels and bridges. When Shorris was asked how much of his time he is spending on the W.T.C., he quickly said “ a lot,” before mentioning the man who hired him a few months ago to run the Port, Gov. Eliot Spitzer.

“There’s $16 billion worth of construction on 16 acres and we have a lot of emotional ties because we lost so many people…,” he said referring to the 84 Port employees killed on Sept. 11, 2001. “The governor asks about it constantly. Eliot’s been on the site a few times.”

By tradition, the New Jersey governor selects the Port’s chairperson and the New York governor picks the executive director.

Last year, the Port and city were concerned that Silverstein did not have the money to build the entire site and the agency renegotiated its long-term lease with the developer. Silverstein agreed to give up control of the two least valuable parcels — the Freedom Tower site and Tower 5 — some of the insurance money, and some of the tax-free Liberty Bonds, in exchange for retaining the rights to the three office sites and retail space on Church St. The Port is building the eastern “bathtub” slurry wall and must have the Tower 3 and 4 sites ready for Silverstein by Jan. 1, or pay him $300,000 a day while it finishes up.

Shorris said they are on track to have the sites ready right on time, which means one setback could trigger expensive fines. “That’s what we lose a lot of sleep over — delivering the site on time,” he said.
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300,000 a day!?! Thats amazing. Were this any other site, id almost expect sabptage on the tub work to delay it enough to make 300gs a day in penalties. But at this point, i can pretty much figure that everyone involved knows that more delays will cost them public approval which in this project apparently means everything
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Have you noticed that there is a new steel column placed? It's marked with red arrow in the pic. It appears to be placed 14. May. Also, seems like there is more coming, in the truck.
     
     
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Today they said that they're going to put more steal columns today.

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Yes, you called it right!! One more steel column has been put there, and there's more on the truck in the pic above near the bottom (red arrows)!

Also, looks like the 2nd tower crane is completed.
     
     
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300,000 a day!?! Thats amazing. Were this any other site, id almost expect sabptage on the tub work to delay it enough to make 300gs a day in penalties. But at this point, i can pretty much figure that everyone involved knows that more delays will cost them public approval which in this project apparently means everything
Don't feel TOO sorry for them: they collected millions from Silverstein for an empty hole in the ground for years, a hole kept empty by their own inability to decide on a rebuilding strategy.
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Don't feel TOO sorry for them: they collected millions from Silverstein for an empty hole in the ground for years, a hole kept empty by their own inability to decide on a rebuilding strategy.
That's exactly right. And they should have started work on building that new "tub" sooner anyway. Everyone knew what was going there once the site plan was finalized. But you can bet they will have it done on time, if not sooner. The PA can build, when it wants to. After all, who built the original WTC?
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Rockafella, the PA, Yama, Emery Roth & Sons and Tishman. Haha!!

Things sort of went smoothly then, for the first time back then, radically new construction techniques were being developed and used.

Not to say that there were no problems with building the towers then. But new challenges were met and somehow worked out.

But yes NYguy, you're right!! They knew what was up and they knew about the final designs then, so they should have got cracking on putting the tub in as soon as things were finalized.
     
     
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NYguy, how would that pic look with the GS Tower added to it?

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It appears that the steel column delivered this morning wasn't up to specifications and was sent packing to where it came from!

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Now that makes me wonder if the other ones are the right ones!
     
     
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NYguy, how would that pic look with the GS Tower added to it?

Just wondering.
More dense.
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