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Old Posted Jul 18, 2017, 10:21 PM
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Why do you want to see some Lawrenceville style development in the heart of downtown?
Right now, another Lawrenceville would be a big improvement. All I'm saying is the natural target audience should be mostly the under-retailed areas to the west and south, people who would appreciate Walmart and an hamburger. If the two respective development groups can make it interesting enough for tourists to come, see, and purchase - so much the better, sort of like the streets of old NY. People who want a gentrified pseudo-experience have lots other options.
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Right now, another Lawrenceville would be a big improvement. All I'm saying is the natural target audience should be mostly the under-retailed areas to the west and south, people who would appreciate Walmart and an hamburger. If the two respective development groups can make it interesting enough for tourists to come, see, and purchase - so much the better, sort of like the streets of old NY. People who want a gentrified pseudo-experience have lots other options.
We must be talking about two different things. Walmart, although my least favorite retailer, would be fine so long as it didn't build a 150,000 sq. ft. big box in the middle of downtown. That would be terrible.
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What if it were underground. That's a large piece of near-empty retail space.
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What if it were underground. That's a large piece of near-empty retail space.
If it fits into the urban fabric, okay.
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The Avery at Underground Atlanta

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Link: http://www.boarddocs.com/ga/investat...18-17%20vr.pdf

The project is seeking incentives from Invest Atlanta at their meeting tomorrow.
Based on the rendering above, assuming the background is correct, it appears they are developing a chunk of the WRS underground project right over the railroad tracks. Since parking can't be built under this building (MARTA and CSX underneath) this shows that at least some of the above-ground parking that WRS proposed went away or moved somewhere else. I hope this does not mean that the WRS/N9 vision is not being watered down. Below is what I interpret this building as seen in the WRS rendering. I don't believe this fills the whole block since the existing underground sculpture that was along central ave is visible in the rendering above.


Just to add to this... I read in the WRS Invest Atlanta docs that WRS is outsourcing all residential and hotel components to outside 3rd party developers. WRS is only handling the retail and some parking components of the project. It looks like we could have a few skyhouses, or worse, some low rise residential depending on how WRS is able to negotiate these residential components.
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Based on the rendering above, assuming the background is correct, it appears they are developing a chunk of the WRS underground project right over the railroad tracks. Since parking can't be built under this building (MARTA and CSX underneath) this shows that at least some of the above-ground parking that WRS proposed went away or moved somewhere else. I hope this does not mean that the WRS/N9 vision is not being watered down. Below is what I interpret this building as seen in the WRS rendering. I don't believe this fills the whole block since the existing underground sculpture that was along central ave is visible in the rendering above.


Just to add to this... I read in the WRS Invest Atlanta docs that WRS is outsourcing all residential and hotel components to outside 3rd party developers. WRS is only handling the retail and some parking components of the project. It looks like we could have a few skyhouses, or worse, some low rise residential depending on how WRS is able to negotiate these residential components.
Good information. Thanks.

I'm not opposed to this as a first phase of the development but I would definitely be disappointed if it ends up being all midrises. I'm glad to see it moving forward.
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Right now, another Lawrenceville would be a big improvement. All I'm saying is the natural target audience should be mostly the under-retailed areas to the west and south, people who would appreciate Walmart and an hamburger. If the two respective development groups can make it interesting enough for tourists to come, see, and purchase - so much the better, sort of like the streets of old NY. People who want a gentrified pseudo-experience have lots other options.
As I mentioned before, there is already a Walmart serving the neighborhoods west of Underground.
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Old Posted Jul 20, 2017, 4:06 PM
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Curbed has a larger rendering of the first apartments. I have to say I'm already a little disappointed. I REALLY hope this is not all EIFS.




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https://atlanta.curbed.com/2017/7/20...very-rendering
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Underground neighborhood views from the roof of the county parking garage. Probably not much changes in the next 1.5 years.





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Underground Atlanta development progressing well WRS says

https://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/...sing-well.html
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WRS is partnering with Peak Campus, a student housing developer, to build a 700-bed building across from Georgia State University. The building will also have 25,000 square feet of retail at the street level. The student housing development should be open by 2020 for that school year.

It is also partnering with Prestwick Companies, which will be building The Avery on the other half of the block. The Avery will have at least 180 multi-family units and it will have 40,000 and 70,000 square feet of new retail facing Upper Alabama Street.
It sounds like they are still negotiating with the potential big box tenant. Prestwick hopes to begin construction in 2019.

Also The Masquerade is spending $700,000 to expand at Underground and has signed a 10-year lease.
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It sounds like they are still negotiating with the potential big box tenant. Prestwick hopes to begin construction in 2019.
The same articles says this:

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In the past year, WRS has moved away from having a mega-grocery store along Upper Alabama – once a community concern that Underground would become a project for big box retailers. It now is considering going with either one 40,000-square-foot grocer or multiple 10,000-square-foot or smaller retailers.

“We know we have got to have food there to service the people living at Underground,” Smith said. “We just don’t think there’s a need to have a megastore. We think we could have boutique grocery or a national grocery store that’s smaller and more urban.”
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The same articles says this:
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A current block-by-block snapshot of the redevelopment

Block 1: Northwest corner of Pryor and Upper Alabama
Higher density hotel, office, retail and additional housing will be the last phase of the four-block transformation.

Block 2: Northeast corner of Pryor and Upper Alabama
Featuring student housing from development partner Peak Campus and multi-family housing from partner Prestwick Companies, more than 800,000 square feet of new construction will begin on this block in fall 2018, with an estimated delivery date of fall 2020 and early 2021 respectively. Both buildings will feature a mix of street-level retail focused on the needs of the neighborhood and Georgia State University’s growing student body. Between block 1 and 2 there will be nearly 175 thousand square feet of retail space to add neighborhood necessities and conveniences to the mix.

Block 3: Southwest Corner of Central and Alabama
Filled with a mix of retail, office and communal areas to support a 24/7 lifestyle, a more extensive rehabilitation of older buildings and other existing structures of Block 3 will begin in early spring 2018. The lower level of Underground Atlanta closed on Aug. 13 to assess the condition of the central hub, utility set up and structural safety. Block 3 is also the permanent home of The Masquerade and the recently announced coworking pop-up Post-Office Cowork at 86 Pryor.

Block 4: Southwest corner of Pryor and Alabama
More than 40 thousand square feet of retail storefronts line Upper Alabama to Peachtree Street and currently house many long-term Underground Atlanta tenants who relocated from the now-closed lower level to continue day-to-day business above ground.


http://atlantaintownpaper.com/2017/1...ransformation/

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