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I think it's a fair cinch to call this chapter in NYC hstory not only the Second Great Race to the Sky, but also the Great Big Baby Boom.
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lol yeah I think that would be cool!

I think it should be known as what it is, the Great supertall era. Citywide though, it will be the great construction boom, as things are on a roll all over town. You can't go anywhere without seeing something under construction. But the supertall boom changes the skyline in many ways. No longer will the Empire State and WTC be the primary symbols of the skyline.

As far as the west side goes, we have to get used to some things. We often think of 1,000 ft towers as the skyline statements, with designs that could easily be defined as icons worldwide. But what we are seeing with this wall of 1,000 ft buildings now rising (there are 4 supertalls under construction in the HY with 2 more soon to be) is the new normall in NY, where even a 1,000 ft tower could be considered skyline filler. We'll see how this plays out.

50 Hudson - 1,011 ft
30 Hudson - 1,296 ft
35 Hudson - 1,035 ft
3 Hudson Blvd - 1,050 - 1,300 ft
1 MW - 995 ft
Spiral - 1,005 ft
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Takes a lot to standout in the crowd. And its becoming increasingly hard from a design standpoint to be the best given the competition. When you have things like 9 Dekalb, The Roseland, Steinway, and even 111 Murray, its tough to have a really bangin design.

But the idea for this tower is maximizing the usage of space. Its not a trophy tower, thats what 30 Hudson is for.
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Its not a trophy tower...
To be sure; but at the same time it is in fact towers like these whose architectural statements prove that a "satellite" tower that's part of a greater project doesn't have to have a watered-down design as a kind of submissive "homage" to that project's anchor structure/centerpiece.

IOW, if you go by the notion that the main tower in an assemblage like this is usually designed to make the ones around it look better, what does it say about that main tower it's neigbors on their own make the viewer drool with awe???

The above idea in my mind can be exemplified in its most simplistic extreme with the Renaissance Center in Detroit. But here, other than aesthetically, we now see that with height disparity not so much a consideration, visual quality becomes the prime factor.

Perhaps WTCII differs in this case in that the whole project has design elements that were composed as a whole and have remained mostly unchanged. That certainly has been debated ad infinitum.

Here, though, various realities that arise to meet present-day concerns seem to put everything in constant flux.
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This tower is absolutely a trophy tower. Even if it's design isn't like those to it's immediate south, you can bet good money on the amenities and materials being first rate.

It's also set to cost +/- 3 billion dollars.
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This tower is absolutely a trophy tower. Even if it's design isn't like those to it's immediate south, you can bet good money on the amenities and materials being first rate.

It's also set to cost +/- 3 billion dollars.

Oh, for sure, this is a top rate tower, among the best in the city, if not the best in terms of that. I'm mainly speaking of design in terms of architectural icon that stands out on the skyline. This tower is massive, and it will be sandwiched between towers just as massive, one of which will be a few hundred feet taller with a more distinctive top representative of the NY skyline. That makes this filler, along the lines of towers such as 30 Rock, Pan Am (Metlife), Chase, etc., the towers that play backup. I just think that when people think of 1,000 ft, a tower that would easily dominate most skylines, they expect something different in design. But the design here is exactly what it was intended to be. Just look at the huge corporate towers lining Park Ave and 6th Avenue, and you see exactly what they are doing here.
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View along the base (left) with the Spiral and 3 Hudson.



https://ny.curbed.com/2017/11/3/1660...new-renderings
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Excellent. Excavation always a promising sign.

Yet another super tall rising as we continue our Journey to the world super tall capital. Next stop... 45 Broad and honorable mentions to Ingel's Spiral!
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Oh wow! The old building is no more!
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Oh wow! The old building is no more!
The old Coach tower still hasn't come down, though they're working on it.
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The old Coach tower still hasn't come down, though they're working on it.
Silly me, I keep thinking that it runs lengthwise relative to HU.
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