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Old Posted Jul 3, 2016, 1:07 AM
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Exactly, this is not procurement. I am a procurement specialist for a living, and I can attest to that. No contract is being signed here. The city is contributing to someone else's project. So the right term here would be, a grant, or contribution, but certainly not a contract and thus its not procurement. The Federal Government and its many departments, hand out billions of dollars of grants and contributions. Often these are not competed and can amount to millions of $ for just one grant, or contribution. Key is that there should be no profit involved. At least that's how it works with the feds. I am guessing its similar here, in that Sinking Ship is not profiting from this $1M. But that $ will help them fund the project and pay some overhead costs.
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Interesting discussion SSE being a non profit. Are they registered as such? Do they not sell their episodes to other parties? I really am curious. A company called Media DHX commissioned SSE for a show called Playdate. Is this not for profit? SSE is also partnered with Amazon for a show called Annedroids.
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Old Posted Jul 4, 2016, 1:05 PM
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Hate to break it to you but I don't think it is the minority opposing this playground.

Giver missed the boat on that one.
Do you have any source for this statement? I realize that there was a bit of a rally for the media, but I see absolutely no evidence of widespread opposition to this project.

Quite the contrary actually. The general sentiment that I have heard is that the opponents are plumbing new depths of obstructionism in Ottawa - perhaps not as low as the people in Orleans trying to block school buses from using their street, but at least flirting with that level of notoriety.

This is a children's playground we are talking about. If you didn't know what the project was about and listened to the quotes from the opponents, you would think that the mayor was single-handedly proposing a multi-lane freeway through virgin forest using money earmarked for underprivileged children.
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Old Posted Jul 4, 2016, 1:46 PM
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Rather than one mega playground, there should have been 10 spread across the city. These could have been in neighborhoods that don't have playgrounds as yet. That would have benefited kids. They would have been on TV and could have walked to their local playground. Everyone would have been happy. Now they have to be driven there. If their parents have a car and the time.

Hate to break it to you but I don't think it is the minority opposing this playground.

Giver missed the boat on that one.
Can you tell me of one area in the city that does not have a park? I’m guessing you do not have any kids, as a parent, we must have at least 4 parks in walking distance to our house (all in opposite direction) but they are small and my 5 and 3 year old get bored. In the summer to change it up, we find ourselves driving to other larger parks such as Brewer near Carleton University and Millenium Sports Park in Cumberland (I live in the south end of Ottawa). Having a very large park near Money’s bay will allow parents to make a day event instead of an hour event. I’m very excited about the park, we can build our day around playing in the sand and the park and having a picnic or BBQ, a nice day out with the family on the cheap.

The other point that you have missed is that half is being paid by the private sector. If we did miss the boat, for once, I'm happy!!!!!!
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Old Posted Jul 4, 2016, 1:51 PM
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What is the big deal about building a playground in an underutilized portion of a major city park? It makes no sense to build the same old playground that we always build in 10 different locations. It simply will not sell.

It is quite apparent that the complainers want control over the project instead of the children so they can destroy it. And that is exactly what would have happened.

And just like the windmill project (a donation to the city by the Netherlands) that was planned for the same park that failed because of overzealous complainers, the city is poorer for it.

And now we are about the start the same merry go round about the Botanical Gardens yet again. I cannot figure out people who want to block everything that will make the city a better place in which to live.

But I guess there are two types of people, builders and blockers.

You have no idea the hoops I was put through in order to simply install a historic plaque. Never again.
This individual has no kids but is an expert in the area, love it when people provide advice and recommendation that does not affect them. Every family that I talked to love the playground. We have enough parks, this will be great for the city!
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Old Posted Jul 14, 2016, 11:21 PM
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CTV had a story on the partially complete playground. It was horrific; there were children laughing and running around and playing outdoors. These kids should be indoors watching TV and the park should have lots of empty grass for the geese to crap on.
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Old Posted Jul 15, 2016, 12:18 AM
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Lol!
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Old Posted Jul 15, 2016, 12:33 AM
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CTV had a story on the partially complete playground. It was horrific; there were children laughing and running around and playing outdoors. These kids should be indoors watching TV and the park should have lots of empty grass for the geese to crap on.
Thank goodness there was a fence around the site to save them from being swept away by the river.

But who cares about the kids. It is the process. Proper process was not followed.
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Old Posted Jul 15, 2016, 2:51 AM
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It kinda sucks.
Shaping up to be 10 generic playgrounds from the catalog crammed in one place. Pretty much like they already have steps away, on the other side of the beach.
For the money could've built something really cool and unique like in Chicago



or St Louis

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It kinda sucks.
Shaping up to be 10 generic playgrounds from the catalog crammed in one place. Pretty much like they already have steps away, on the other side of the beach.
For the money could've built something really cool and unique like in Chicago



or St Louis

Very cool. Do you know the names of these parks or have articles about them?
Thanks!
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Old Posted Jul 15, 2016, 3:48 PM
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ctv had a story on the partially complete playground. It was horrific; there were children laughing and running around and playing outdoors. These kids should be indoors watching tv and the park should have lots of empty grass for the geese to crap on.
lol!!!!!
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Old Posted Jul 15, 2016, 3:52 PM
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It kinda sucks.
Shaping up to be 10 generic playgrounds from the catalog crammed in one place. Pretty much like they already have steps away, on the other side of the beach.
For the money could've built something really cool and unique like in Chicago



or St Louis

Those are some seriously cool parks!

Wish Ottawa would think along those lines... Alas, it just isn't going to happen. Ever. Sigh. Blah.
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Old Posted Jul 15, 2016, 3:52 PM
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Very cool. Do you know the names of these parks or have articles about them?
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For St Louis google MonstroCity playground
For Chicago - Maggie Daley Park.

I hope they build some cool playground at the new Science and Technology Museum.
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Old Posted Jul 15, 2016, 9:02 PM
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It kinda sucks.
Shaping up to be 10 generic playgrounds from the catalog crammed in one place. Pretty much like they already have steps away, on the other side of the beach.
For the money could've built something really cool and unique like in Chicago



or St Louis

These would've been great at Lansdowne Park
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