Calgary Public Transit II

[ByeByeBaby]

Originally Posted by Allan83

In your opinion which ones would this include?

Higher ridership I already talked about; four of the six corridors would have higher ridership. In terms of redevelopment potential, 17th Ave SE, 16 Ave N and Centre St N all have a strong grid structure, with plenty of places for intensification. The South Crosstown serves the Currie Barracks which is redeveloping, as well as the intensification around Heritage and MRU that are already underway, and Quarry Park for what that's worth. The SETWAY is the only one with so many permanent or near-permanent restrictions; landfills, railroads, fertilizer stacks, contaminated soil, sewage treatment plants.

[UofC.engineer]

Originally Posted by ByeByeBaby

Sure.

Centre Street Transitway: 2.1M increase
North Crosstown BRT: 2M increase
South Crosstown BRT: 1.7M increase
Southwest Transitway: 1.3M increase
Southeast Transitway: 1.2M increase
17th Ave SE Transitway: 500K increase
West Campus Mobility: 200K increase

Looks to me like there are four projects with higher ridership than the SE transitway, two of them with almost double the ridership.

It's also worth noting that the SETWAY has almost double the capital cost of the other projects. Not individually -- double the cost of all six of them added together.

I'm having a hard time figuring out why it isn't a slam dunk case to spend $120M to get 2.1 million more riders, or $40M to get 1.3 million more riders, rather than $642M to get 1.2 million.

Yes! It's a ridership increase in the corridor, very good, excellent work.


Centre Street Transitway: Improved travel time and more buses will increase ridership in the northern communities, it's an excellent improvement.

North Crosstown BRT: Students traveling from SAIT and UofC to the NE will have their transit ride time cut down significantly and won't have to take the train through DT, it's an excellent improvement.

SW Transitway: People living in the southfour(Oakridge,Paliser,Cederbrae,Braeside) won't have to pack into C-train cars anymore and travel times to DT will improve, it's an excellent improvement.

SE Transitway: Added bus capacity and frequency along with shorter travel time will increase ridership, its an excellent improvement.

West Campus Mobility: One word..."Gondola". It's an excellent improvement.

SETWAY: People who take deerfoot everyday abandon their fucking cars and take transit for the first time. They might end up actually liking having an extra few minutes of the day to sit down and reflect on the days events instead of grinding through traffic.

I'll state it again "The SETWAY will take more cars off the road than any other transit project."

Originally Posted by Full Mountain

In fact I would posture that you will see next to no change in vehicle volumes in the SE if the SETWAY goes ahead.

No. I have a hard time believing people would rather pay $500 a month for a parking stall in DT plus a brutal commute to and from the deep SE everyday than take a 20-25 min bus ride. If that was the case the south line would be empty everyday, so my response is: No. I just don't buy it buddy!

[UofC.engineer]

Everyone knows that report is BS. That's all I have to say.