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Extell increased the percentage of affordable housing from 12 to 20 percent, and they're worried it will be an exclusive enclave to the rich? This project seems to benefit the community in every way possible; affordable housing, a school, underground parking to not take away spots from current residents in that neighborhood, a movie theater, retail space, and an auto showroom.

I agree with what Dac posted, at what point does Extell just say enough is enough, and move on and let these people enjoy the view of a huge dirt hole.
     
     
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Planning Commission Gets Earful on Riverside Center
More than 150 people showed up for a marathon public hearing on the massive Riverside Center development


By Leslie Albrecht
September 16, 2010

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The Planning Commission got an earful about the controversial Riverside Center development at a marathon hearing Wednesday, where more than 150 people showed up to voice concerns — and some approval — over the five-tower development.

After months of public criticism of Riverside Center, Wednesday's hearing featured something rare: several people who spoke up in favor of the development, which they said would transform a deserted stretch of the west side into a real neighborhood.

Extell Development Company wants to build the mixed use complex of apartment high-rises and stores on an eight-acre piece of land between West 59th Street, West 61st Street, West End Avenue and Riverside Boulevard.

Right now it's a parking lot and abandoned rail yard.

The Planning Commission will vote on the project later this fall, then it goes to the City Council for a final yay or nay. Wednesday's meeting was a chance for the commission to hear testimony on the project.

Extell's president Gary Barnett defended the project, saying Riverside Center will turn an "old parking lot" into a "vibrant community with world-class architecture."

But he warned that a still-weak economy makes building financial difficult, and said community demands for changes to the project could "kill" Riverside Center.


Community Board 7 and Borough President Scott Stringer have asked Extell for more affordable housing, less density and a commitment to build a 150,000 square-foot school.

Community input also forced Extell to drop plans for a Costco, which Barnett said threatened Riverside Center's economic viability.

But community members argued that Extell isn't doing enough to offset the impacts of Riverside Center, which could bring as many as 3,000 new housing units to the Upper West Side.

"I'm tired of building after building after building going up without consideration of the impact it has on our schools," said Michelle Ciulla Lipkin, co-president of the P.S. 199 Parent Teacher Association. "We cannot afford to see this development go up without sufficient school space."

Barnett said building the 150,000 square foot school community members want could add $35 to $40 million to his costs.

City Councilwoman Gale Brewer stressed that Riverside Center will be built on the last significant piece of vacant land on the Upper West Side.

"We shouldn't forget that, because it's all we've got left," Brewer said. "We need to do it right."

Some said they can't wait for Extell to get started on Riverside Center.

Steve Ganz, a real estate broker who lives in nearby Riverside South, said his family has to leave the area when they want to go shopping or out to eat.

Riverside Center would bring sorely needed retail amenities, he said.

"This is really an opportunity to make Riverside South its own neighborhood, not just a gateway to the Upper West Side, or a stop-over from Lincoln Center," Ganz said. "If Extell can't or doesn't build it, I can't see anyone else that would step up to the plate to do it."
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Hard to comprehend why so many oppose this development. I would love to see something like this here in the Bronx. I guess for most of these people empty lots is the way to go.
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Because nothing says a benefit to the community like a big empty lot.......

People need to get with it; at least a few seem to understand from that meeting.
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who and why are they complaining again?
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Hard to comprehend why so many oppose this development. I would love to see something like this here in the Bronx. I guess for most of these people empty lots is the way to go.
Apparently it has blank walls and other deadening components to it. I can't find pictures of the detailed plans though. Maybe someone else knows if they are online anywhere.
     
     
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Apparently it has blank walls and other deadening components to it. I can't find pictures of the detailed plans though. Maybe someone else knows if they are online anywhere.
There's enough info on it right here.
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There's nothing here that really shows what it's going to look like from the street at most vantage points.
     
     
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There's nothing here that really shows what it's going to look like from the street at most vantage points.

I don't know, I've seen enough. At any rate, that's not the greatest concern among the NIMBY's. The new school, and more affordable housing are the biggest issues here. But as always, you can find more in depth details on any development moving through the city's 7 month approval process on the City Planning website (throught the nyc.gov portal)...
http://www.nyc.gov/html/dcp/html/env...e_center.shtml

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quick question, why wont they build all those towers taller? more rooms more vacancy, isnt that what NYC is trying to improve on more places to live? and another thing, they need some big tall buildings on the upper west side its about time NYC does, but i know, NIMBYs haha
     
     
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hmmm i like this project but like the multitude of projects in the US...there lacking certain aesthetics that make whats being proposed and built in Asia beautiful...(im speaking about public spaces not the towers)
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Riverside Center Wins Approval and Praise at City Planning Commission



October 27, 2010
By Leslie Albrecht


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Extell's Riverside Center cleared a key hurdle Wednesday, winning approval — and high praise — from the city Planning Commission.

Commissioners voted 12-1 in favor of the five-building mixed use development, which means it now heads to the City Council for a final yay or nay. That vote is expected to happen in roughly two months.

The Planning Commission's vote marked a change in tone from prior public meetings about Riverside Center, with commissioners lauding the project as an opportunity to reinvent the Upper West Side. Previous public meetings have featured heavy criticism of the project from area residents, which some say will be an exclusive enclave for the rich that will do little to enhance the Upper West Side.

Planning commission chair Amanda Burden called Riverside Center "a unique opportunity to re-envision and reshape a bleak eight-acre parking lot and former rail yard as an exciting addition and major amenity to this thriving West Side neighborhood."

Extell wants to build Riverside Center on a piece of land situated between West 59th Street and West 61st Street, with Riverside Boulevard to the west and West End Avenue to the east. The development will include five residential towers, retail space, an underground parking garage and auto showroom.

Burden singled out Riverside Center's "distinctive and compelling" architecture and "thoughtfully designed public realm" as two of her favorite aspects.

She wasn't the only commissioner with kind words for Riverside Center. "This project, when completed, will be an exciting addition the New York landscape," said commissioner Richard Eaddy. Commissioner Anna Levin cast the only no vote. Levin said she's concerned that the development "is just too big" and that Extell hasn't done enough to build a school to accommodate the children the development will bring to the neighborhood.


Some Upper West Side parents and Community Board 7 have called on Extell to build a 150,000-square-foot, K-8 school at the site, but so far the developer has only committed to paying for the outer shell of a 75,000 square-foot school.

Extell president Gary Barnett has said that building an entire school could add $35 to $40 million to the cost of the development. He's warned that adding too many concessions could make the project too expensive to build.

Commissioner Karen Phillips said she cast a "reluctant" yes vote, because she wants to see more affordable housing at Riverside Center.

"Providing more units for middle-income New Yorkers ensures that the character of this area better reflects the character of the Upper West Side," Phillips said.

Extell spokesman George Arzt said in a statement that the developer was "immensely gratified" by the Planning Commission's approval. "We are equally thankful for the laudatory words of support from commission members," Arzt said.
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Another defeat for the NIMBYs and their baseless arguments.
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Public Advocate Calls on Development Company to Build a School at Riverside Center



October 29, 2010
By Leslie Albrecht

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Public advocate Bill de Blasio has joined the chorus of officials calling on Extell Development Company to build a school at its proposed Riverside Center development on the Upper West Side.

In de Blasio's official statement on Riverside Center, the five-tower development Extell wants to build, he said he's lending "conditional support" to the project — but only if Extell provides 150,000 square feet of school space on the site.

Riverside Center would bring five new high-rises to the Upper West Side. (Courtesy Extell Development Company)"There is a crying need for a large school on the Upper West Side," de Blasio said in his statement.

"We must use the City Council process to hold the city and developer accountable for providing the full 150,000 square feet of school space. If this key element of the project is not fulfilled, I will revisit my support."

The City Council is expected to vote on Riverside Center before the end of the year. The development won the approval of the city Planning Commission earlier this week.

Riverside Center would bring thousands of new residents to the area, and locals worry about the impact the project would have on the Upper West Side's already crowded schools.

Extell has said it will pay for the outer shell of a 75,000-square-foot school, but officials say that's not enough. Community Board 7 and Borough President Scott Stringer have asked Extell to build a 150,000 square foot, six section K-8 school.

Extell president Gary Barnett said a Planning Commission hearing last month that building an entire school could cost $35 to $40 million, and that adding too many costs to Riverside Center would make the development too expensive to build.


The development company wants to build Riverside Center on an eight-acre piece of land between West 59th Street, West 61st Street, West End Avenue and Riverside Boulevard.
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Public Gets Last Chance to Weigh in on Riverside Center Development
The City Council's land use committee will hear testimony Tuesday on Extell's massive Riverside Center development.


November 22, 2010
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Upper West Siders are gearing up for a key hearing Tuesday, where the public gets a final chance to weigh in on Extell Development Company's massive Riverside Center development.

The City Council's land use committee will hold the hearing at 9:30 a.m at 250 Broadway.

City Councilwoman Gale Brewer and Community Board 7 officials are urging residents to testify about the changes they'd like to see Extell make to Riverside Center.

The development would bring five high-rise apartment buildings, stores, an auto showroom and open space to eight acres between West 59th Street, West 61st Street, West End Avenue and Riverside Boulevard.

Community Board 7 voted in July to reject Extell's proposal. The Community Board is pushing Extell to make several changes, including removing one of the high-rises, building a 150,000 square-foot K-8 public school, and making 30 percent of the housing at Riverside Center "affordable."

Brewer has backed Community Board 7's proposed changes, and sent out an e-mail Friday reminding people to testify at Tuesday's hearing.

At a September Planning Commission hearing on Riverside Center, Brewer said Riverside Center will be built on the last significant piece of vacant land on the Upper West Side.

"We shouldn't forget that, because it's all we've got left," Brewer said at the September hearing. "We need to do it right."
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City Council Hears Final Round of Community Input on Riverside Center



November 23, 2010
By Leslie Albrecht

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The public got its last chance Tuesday to weigh in on Riverside Center, the massive complex that Extell Development Company wants to build on the largest piece of vacant property left on the Upper West Side.

The City Council subcommittee on zoning and franchises heard more than four hours of testimony on the project, which would bring five high-rises, stores, a hotel, a movie theater, a parking garage and an auto showroom to eight acres stretching between West 59th Street, West 61st Street, West End Avenue and Riverside Boulevard.

The land is now an abandoned rail yard and parking lot.

Tuesday's hearing covered much of the same territory as previous public meetings on Riverside Center, with community members asking Extell to make changes to the project including eliminating one of the buildings, making at least 20 percent of the housing "affordable," and building a 150,000 square-foot school.

In response, Extell president Gary Barnett gave his usual answer: he's bowed to several community demands, but if he makes too many concessions, Riverside Center will never be built because it will cost him too much.

"It doesn't do anybody any good to approve a project and then not be able to build it," Barnett said.
Barnett said he couldn't budge on requests to eliminate one of the high-rises because it would make the project "economically infeasible."


Likewise, Barnett said a request to move an auto showroom off West End Avenue could deal a death blow to Riverside Center. Barnett said auto dealers are only interested in locating on West End Avenue, and that the showroom would be crucial income generator in the early stages of construction.

"It's the key to the project going forward," Barnett said.

City Councilwoman Gale Brewer and Community Board 7 chair Mel Wymore stuck to their guns too, both saying that while the community wants to see the site developed, Riverside Center must serve the needs of the Upper West Side. Brewer insisted that Extell make up to 30 percent of the housing at Riverside Center permanently affordable to people with lower incomes.

Developers are sometimes allowed to build affordable units in other parts of the city, away from their market-rate housing, but Brewer said she wants all of Riverside Center's affordable housing to be "on-site."

"We want a neighborhood that is mixed," Brewer said. "We don't want an all high-income neighborhood, that's why we want it on-site," Brewer said to a smattering of applause in the packed hearing room.

Wymore noted that Riverside Center will be built on the last piece of undeveloped property on the Upper West Side.

"We've seen an awful lot of development in the last 20 years, and we've become experts in what works and what doesn't work," Wymore said.

What works, said Wymore, is creating an "integrated" development, "such that the community doesn't see Riverside Center as an exclusive enclave or a village within the community."

Behind the scenes, Brewer, Wymore and other members of Community Board 7 are in negotiations with Extell about proposed changes at the site, including creating more open space and less density.

In the coming weeks, they'll discuss the school and affordable housing, said Wymore.

"We continue to inch forward in creating a project that works for the developer and the community," Wymore said. "Every conversation is a baby step forward."

Wymore said negotiations will likely continue until the full City Council votes on Riverside Center in December.

Community Board 7 released a 50-page set of recommended modifications when it voted to reject the project in July.

"There are some things in there that we're working with them on that we're trying to adjust, and obviously there are some things in there that we can't give, and some things in there that they never expected us to give," Barnett said of Community Board 7's recommendations.
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Public Ballfields Fenced Off for Use by Upscale Upper West Side Tenants
Ballfields in front of Riverside South are supposed to be public, but only residents of the apartment complex can use them.





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December 1, 2010

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A set of pristine ball fields that were built for public use on the Upper West Side are sitting behind a locked gate — and only the residents of nearby upscale apartment buildings are allowed to use them.

The brand new soccer, baseball and volleyball fields are wedged between the West Side Highway and Riverside Boulevard from West 66th to West 64th Street. The fields sit in front of Riverside South, a string of luxury high-rise buildings where apartments sell for as much as $15 million.

The ball fields are supposed to belong to Riverside Park South, the 27-acre public park that developer Extell Development Co. is responsible for building in exchange for the rights to build the high-rises.

But an eight-foot chain link fence now surrounds the fields and a guard patrols the area to keep people out unless they're residents of Riverside South, several locals told DNAinfo.

Parks Department official John Herrold, who oversees all of Riverside Park, said the ball fields are Extell's private property, and they'll eventually be handed over to the city to become part of the public park.


But for now, Extell is free to keep them locked up, Herrold said at a recent Community Board 7 meeting.

Activist Batya Lewton of the Coalition for a Livable West Side says the fenced off fields are evidence of a broken promise by Extell.

Creating the public park space was a key condition that developers agreed to meet when they won approval from the city to build Riverside South, Lewton said. The original developer on the project in 1992 was Donald Trump; it changed hands to Extell in 2005.

"When you realize that the developer made an awful lot of money on this development, and that they were supposed to build this world-class park and here you have these fields that can't be used by the public, that's outrageous," Lewton said.

Lewton said she was incensed when Extell president Gary Barnett recently mentioned the fields and Riverside Park South at a City Council hearing about Riverside Center, the five-tower development that Extell wants to build as the final piece of Riverside South.

Barnett pointed to the fields and public park as a key neighborhood amenity, Lewton said.

"(He) bragged about the fact that they had built these fields, but never mentioned that they're not public," Lewton said.


Extell also did not respond to repeated requests for comment from DNAinfo.

Ralph Corsiglia, a local baseball coach, said he was eagerly looking forward to using the fields once they were completed this fall. When workers were sodding the fields in August they let him and his son practice there. But once the Little League-size baseball diamond was finished, the gate was locked and a guard told him it was off limits, Corsiglia said.

Corsiglia said he called Riverside South and was told he could pay to rent the field for $20 an hour, with a two-hour minimum, but only if he or someone with him was a resident of Riverside South.

DNAinfo got the same answer from a Riverside South representative.

Corsiglia doesn't live at Riverside South, so he's out of luck.

"It's such an unfortunate thing to have a beautiful field you can't use," Corsiglia said last week as he stood near the empty, fenced-in outfield.

"I grew up in New York and finding a grass field to play on was such a treat," Corsiglia said. "Now there's one right in front of our eyes and we can't use it. It just sits here like it's a museum."












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Upper West Side Project Passes Council Vote

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December 8, 2010

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A giant new residential development planned for the Upper West Side passed a crucial hurdle Wednesday, as a key City Council committee voted to approve the 2,500-apartment project following a set of concessions pledged by the site's owner, Extell Development.

The project, known as Riverside Center, has faced years of resistance from the local community, which said the development's five large apartment towers would overwhelm the neighborhood.

After days of negotiating, Extell agreed to contribute funds toward an adjacent park and to build out the shell of a 100,000-square-foot school, among other concessions, according to a spokesman for the company and Councilwoman Gale Brewer.

"It's something we can live with and something that's good for the neighborhood," said Ms. Brewer, an Upper West Side Democrat who was the principal negotiator at the Council. "We were very civil, but we were tough."

The full Council is expected to approve the development later this month.
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