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Old Posted Feb 27, 2008, 5:53 AM
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Exclamation What if Mt. Baker blows?









Could it happen?

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Published: Sunday, February 17, 2008

Few British Columbians realize that the probability of a major volcanic eruption hitting B.C. is the same as that for a mega-thrust subduction earthquake expected sometime in the next 50 years.

That prognosis comes from Catherine Hickson, lead volcanologist for B.C. at Natural Resources Canada and a risk-assessment specialist.

"We're not talking about something as explosive as Mount St. Helens, but we're not talking about the slow, bubbling lava flows you go see in Hawaii, either," she says of Mount Baker, the biggest volcanic threat to B.C.'s most populated region.

"I think it's quite probable that [in my lifetime] we'll see ash plumes that may go about 10 kilometres above the volcano and cover the surrounding area."

The most vexing consequences of such an event, Hickson says, would be the flooding of Sumas Prairie -- if the eruption occurs in the northernmost reaches of Baker's crown -- and a blanket of ash that could blacken parts of the Lower Mainland.

A major ashfall in Vancouver would be unusual, but not impossible in the event of a Mount Baker eruption, says David Tucker, a geologist at Western Washington University and a leading expert on volcanic ash.

Based on meteorological data, he says, there is only a one-per-cent chance that winds carrying airborne volcanic debris would pass directly over Vancouver.

The chances are significantly higher, however, for eastern areas of the Fraser Valley.

The wind would most likely blow in from the southwest -- which it does about 27 per cent of the time -- and carry the ash over to Hope, Chilliwack and as far as Princeton and Penticton.

Wherever it lands, the coarse dust would render most types of machinery useless, especially those that require air filters, such as cars, electrical transformers, air conditioners and computer hard drives.


The ash fall

Transportation

Volcanic ash is abrasive enough to down a plane in mid-flight, and the same destructive power applies to vehicles.

"It's like putting sand in your engine," says Tucker. "It would be scouring your cylinders, and that amount of dust and ash getting into your wheel bearings is not good. It could even short out your electrical system."

Tucker recalls that drivers got around the ash clash when Mount St. Helens erupted in 1980 by putting nylon stockings on their vehicles' filtration systems.

Cities close to the historic blast also had to hire special street-sweeping machines to scoop the ash from roadways and prevent it from washing into drainage systems, where it could settle and harden.

So for those who want to be truly prepared when the big one blows: cover your wells and stock up on pantyhose.


Water

In the event that a volcanic event drops ash on the Vancouver area in the next eight months, citizens may have to rely on bottled water for some time.

But with the opening of the new Seymour-Capilano filtration plant this fall, B.C.'s largest city will be safeguarded from a volcanic threat to drinking water.

"Being heavier than water, most ash would drift to the bottom [of the intake supply], so it would be a turbidity event similar to experiences we've had," says Doug MacQuarrie, water treatment superintendent for Metro Vancouver. "The only thing [ash in the water] would mean is we'd be back-washing our filters a lot more often."


Communication

In an emergency, help is meant to be just a phone call away. But during a volcanic event, B.C. phone service providers would have to take special steps to ensure the lines remain open.

"Our emergency plan does account for volcanic ash," assures Telus spokesman Shawn Hall. "We would expect that it would affect some of our transmitters and receivers, primarily for wireless service, but also for wired service, particularly in remote areas."

Hall explains that Telus has a stash of dust masks ready for crews that would have to monitor and clean ash off those transmitters and receivers during and after the eruption.


Power

B.C. Hydro says outages due to equipment failure could also occur if the province were coated in ash.

"The electromagnetic fields of the ash would have an effect on . . . our distribution equipment -- the lines that take power from transformers to people's homes," says company spokeswoman Gillian Robinson Riddell.

"We've looked at what effect volcanic ash would have on our system and what equipment we would need to deal with that."

Similar to Telus, B.C. Hydro has trained technicians who would be ready to restore power. Riddell compares the effort required during an eruption to that during severe winter storms.


Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis

n. a disease of the lungs caused by the inhalation of very fine silicate or quartz dust and occurring esp. in miners. -- Webster's Third International Dictionary

That mouthful is the longest word in the English language, and it's also the disease you'll be diagnosed with if you inhale volcanic ash. In layman's terms, the tongue-tying infirmity is known as black lung.


Symptoms

- Nasal and throat irritation, runny nose, sore throat,

dry coughing, shortness of breath.


Treatment

- Vancouver respirologist Dr. Stephan van Eeden estimates

Lower Mainland hospitals could see a patient surge of 20 per cent or more during a volcanic eruption.

- Those without pre-existing lung or heart conditions who inhale significant amounts of ash would become more vulnerable to infections such as bronchitis.
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"Our emergency plan does account for volcanic ash," assures Telus spokesman Shawn Hall.
Hmm... I'd never of thought they'd be that prepared. I don't think I've ever thought of or heard about the possibility of Vancouver being blanketed with volcanic ash from Mount Baker.

This article is news to me. Thanks for posting it mr.x2.
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I'm more worried of "the big one" than Mt. Baker
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Hmm... I'd never of thought they'd be that prepared. I don't think I've ever thought of or heard about the possibility of Vancouver being blanketed with volcanic ash from Mount Baker.

This article is news to me. Thanks for posting it mr.x2.
Well Vancouver did suffer from volcanic ash the last time it erupted
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^When was that exactly? I couldn't find an exact reference to the Vancouver area but I found this interesting passage on activity at Mount Baker in the recent past...

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Mount Baker is an active volcano. There are various accounts of activity at Mount Baker in the mid-1800's. An 1843 eruption resulted in a major fish kill in the Baker River, a large forest fire, and a dusting of volcanic ash over the adjacent countryside. Further eruptions occurred in the 1850's and the first expedition to Sherman Crater in 1868 reported active fumarole fields. Steam activity continued at Sherman Crater and at the Dorr fumarole field on Baker's north flank until the 1940's and 1950's, by which time steaming was uncommon. After resumption of mild activity in the 1960's, a major episode of steam activity persisted at Sherman Crater from March 1975 to early 1976. A large jet shot pressurized steam to 760 meters, new fumaroles were active, crevasses developed in the ice concentric to the crater walls, a 70-meter-wide plug of ice collapsed to form a warm water lake, and minor amounts of non-juvenile tephra were spread around the crater area.
http://www.pep-c.org/mountbaker/

I always thought it was a dormant volcano. Learn something new every day.

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I'm more worried of "the big one" than Mt. Baker
I agree.
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Old Posted Feb 27, 2008, 6:12 AM
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Well Vancouver did suffer from volcanic ash the last time it erupted
My parents said something like a centimetre of ash fell in Vancouver when Mount St. Helens blew up in 1980. Visibility was very low for several days.....and consider that Helens is nearly 400-km away from Vancouver! The eruption left hundreds of square kilometres around the volcano looking like Mordor.
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I always thought it was a dormant volcano. Learn something new every day.
There are a few dormant volcanoes:



Mt. Garibaldi, which is near Squamish and can be see from the Sea-to-Sky






And Black Tusk




And a little further north of Whistler are Mt. Cayley and Mt. Meager:

Cayley



Meager





Siwash Rock at Stanley Park and Queen Elizabeth Park were once volcanic vents.
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Neat article though, thanks for posting it.
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I remember hearing Mt. St. Helens erupt in 1980 here in Victoria. There was a boom and my mom yelled up to me in my bedroom because she thought I was making the noise. Parts of Victoria also got a little dusting of ash.
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Oh I didn't know Stanley Park and Queen Elizabeth Park were once volcanic vents... very interesting...

Haha I learned something new today too!
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Old Posted Feb 27, 2008, 7:38 AM
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Oh I didn't know Stanley Park and Queen Elizabeth Park were once volcanic vents... very interesting...

Haha I learned something new today too!
Well, it explains why they had to do all of that blasting near Queen Elizabeth Park to get rid of all that volcanic rock. As well, the soil is extremely fertile for many types of plants/flowers. I'm not sure if it was either a volcanic vent or what was once a huge volcano (it does explain why it's the highest point in the city at 500-feet, and is shaped like a molehill). Before it became a park, it was a basalt quarry...which is why there's a huge pit at the peak. BTW, basalt is a volcanic rock.

But I think both Siwash Rock and QE Park can both be classified as volcanoes....the only other volcanoes near them are Mt. Baker and Garibaldi, and surely volcanic vents can't be that far away.
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Thanks for the cool volcano pics.
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I've wondered about our prepardness for a volcanic eruption after returning from Chile and watching the Llaima (pronounced Y-eye-ma) Volcano erupt on New YEar's Day this year. That volcano was in a remote area (we'll we were 60km from it) and the ash cloud went over Argentina shutting down airports and causing evacuations. I was also living on the Villarrica (vee-a-ree-ka) volcano for several days and it was smoking away - the town of Pucon was on "green" (stage 1) alert - apparently this is normal for Villarrica.

It was cool to watch the volcano erupt - from a quiet looking mountain, to a column of ash and lava. It did a lot of damage.
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mt baker was steaming a couple years gao - doesn't anyone remember?

some steam vents were letting out steam

when mt st helens erupted ash fell in Alberta - i have some an old lady collected from me that fell in her yard in Alberta
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mt baker was steaming a couple years gao - doesn't anyone remember?

some steam vents were letting out steam

when mt st helens erupted ash fell in Alberta - i have some an old lady collected from me that fell in her yard in Alberta
I thnik that was St Helens that was steaming again a couple of years ago. All of the Seattle tv stations were on "eruption watch" for a week or so.
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I thnik that was St Helens that was steaming again a couple of years ago. All of the Seattle tv stations were on "eruption watch" for a week or so.
That's right....there were a few minor eruptions at Helens in 2005/2006. This picture shows one of them:





What happened to that news about a possible volcano in Quesnel?
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no it was mt baker

they were little

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Figure B. Mount Baker
The steam plume of Mt. Baker on Sunday, February 11, 2001 from Vancouver B.C., which was featured widely in local news reports. The fumaroles of Sherman Crater, near the summit of Mt. Baker, produce steam constantly but it is only clearly visible on days when it is not obscured by clouds or disrupted by wind, such as this cold, clear, still winter day. The result is that people get the incorrect impression that Mt. Baker suddenly has pulses of activity.

Mt. Baker is closely monitored by the U.S. Geological Survey and an emergency plan in the event of an eruption has recently been released. However Mt. Baker shows little seismic activity, for example on the day of this photograph there were no earthquakes, even exceedingly tiny ones, anywhere near it. An eruption of Mt. Baker would pose a significant threat to the Lower Mainland region due to ash fall and possibly from mudflows since one of Baker's drainages enters the Fraser River valley.
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the mt st helens event was more than steam - the mountain actually grew as magma or something was coming out
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My parents always told me Mt St Helens erupting was god announcing (warning of?) my birth. It stopped as soon as I was born.
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...or how about being born on the day after the Tiananmen Square massacre?
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