LAS VEGAS | Boom Project Rundown! 2.0

[LMich]

Originally Posted by Silas

LMich -

You may not be so sure that this is vandalism, and a clear crime. But rest assured, all of us responsible citizens do indeed recognize it clearly for what it is. It is a crime

If you people choose to desecrate your own bodies with tatoos, I say wonderful for you. But do not try to bring the entire society down by blurring the lines. This is not 'art'. It is vandalism. Let's get real.

Stop with the attitude, already. It's getting old. You don't know me, or any of the rest of us here. You can take your anger against counter-culture elsewhere. You're obviously trying to make a bigger point, one that doesn't need to be made (i.e. desecrate your own bodies with tatoos). I'm starting to get the feel that this probably isn't the right forum, for you.

[Vegas Grows Up]

I went and recently took a whole bunch of construction pics of Cosmo. Below are some, you may see the rest at the link at bottom of page or by going to Cosmopolitan Resort Images.

These guys take HUGE risks


Sorry Jockey Club pool, you are about to be shaded


Major work welding!


From LV Blvd


Again the rest can be seen at Cosmopolitan Resort Images.

[heyyoucharlie]

[QUOTE=Superfish] "Unlike graffiti which can and is usually gang related, this is unlikely due to that. Maybe it's some underground art form? A rite of passage for tourists? (I have to visit and shoeprint every hotel parking garage I go to) or something like that. Although it's still vandalism when you boil it down."



Could this be considered gang related if the shoe prints are from Nike or Adidas shoes!!!
M M m m Mmyyyy ADIDAS!!!

This has been going on "forever" in Vegas!!! I have not done it for 10+ years or so...but as a teenager we made a game of it, "Who can get the highest print in the garage". Kinda like, who can touch the bball rim in Jr High......

I would much reather see shoe prints in a casino garage, then graffiti all over our freeways... One does not lead to another!!! + if you actually drive on Vegas freeways you're bound to be at a stand still, and then all you will see is the damn graffiti...

[heyyoucharlie]

[QUOTE=Vegas Grows Up]
Sorry Jockey Club pool, you are about to be shaded



From LV Blvd




It is TIME for the Jockey Club to GO!!! When Cosmo and CC are finished this little building will be sooooo out of place...

[Superfish]

Originally Posted by Vegas Grows Up

I went and recently took a whole bunch of construction pics of Cosmo.
Sorry Jockey Club pool, you are about to be shaded

must be cool to be at that pool and see cranes and metal go up all around you. if it's still open that is.

[jazfingr]

Great photos VGU Aaron...thanks

[Vegas Grows Up]

Originally Posted by Superfish

must be cool to be at that pool and see cranes and metal go up all around you. if it's still open that is.

The pool is open and there are huge steel beams being installed just feet away! There was a guy drinking a beer and watching the whole thing like it was a baseball game. By the time I left my photo session I had met multiple Jockey Club people who were coming up to me and asking questions!

Glad you like Jazfingr

[True Blue]

Aaron, nice pic’s of the Cosmo. Maybe some of you can answer a question I have about the long-term affects of building residential units on and around the Strip. These mega-resorts will be beautiful for years to come, but the footprint they leave will be around a lifetime. I feel it will next to impossible to implode a residential hi-rise building once it’s built. Look at the Jockey Club as an example. That building should have been razed years ago, but it’s still around because hundreds of individual timeshare owners bought into it. It would be like a Lawyers feeding frenzy in order to be able to implode and rebuild!

After the current hi-rise building boom is over, will we ever see anything new built on the Strip? I guess in 25 years, the next construction boom would be to implode many of the themed Casinos built in the 90’s. Are the days of the Strip re-inventing itself almost over with?

[Vegas Grows Up]

True Blue,

You bring up great points. There are some key factors however that we must consider.

1. It is much harder for a developer to purchase a "timeshare" property to destroy due to the high number of owners. From what I hear The Jockey Club has something like 22,000 owners! Compare this to only 400 units at "residential" projects like Sky which are mostly owned by 1-2 owners (some may have more as partners or llcs) Basically each unit is owned by one entity, not 52 who each own a week.

2. Las Vegas Boulevard will never become a high rise condo corridor. This is why we have had so many people demanding LV Blvd addresses in 2007 while other areas have suffered. High rise condo towers with a LV Blvd address or very closeby are numbered. The Strip is for casinos and entertainment...we need that as a city to keep tourism in the 40+ million range annually.

3. As far as the high rise building boom coming to an end, Vegas is out of land and that is fact. We are also in the desert and need to conserve our resources. With over 8 thousand new residents coming to our city a month it is absolutly neccessary to build upwards. I do not look at what is happening as a boom but rather a fact of life. New York high rise living is not a boom, its the way things are. This will be a trend we as a city MUST continue with for decades to come unless we want to ruin our resources.

Lets take a look at the "residential" and "condo hotel" projects on or near strip as of right now or coming in near future.

Can anyone see where more may be coming in located in core areas? I do not see many over the next 5-10 years.

Residential Strip

Sky (open)
Veer (2009)
The Harmon (2009)
Residences at Mandarin Oriental (2009)
Palazzo Condos (2009)

Residential close to Strip

Turnberry Towers (opening tower 1 soon)
Turnberry Place (open)
Allure (September 2007)
Panorama Towers (T1 now, T2 Summer 07, T3 2009)

Condo Hotels on Strip

The Cosmopolitan (2009)
Fontainebleau (2009)
Vdara (2009)

Condo Hotels Near Strip

Trump (2008)
MGM Signature (open)
Platinum (open)

[Silas]

LMich -

Let me point out the irony of your own tag lines:

"A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within." - Will Durant

"If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything."

[MrV]

Looking at those pictures makes me wonder if the Jockey Club has any future, since it seems to me as if it will be almost completly surrounded by the Cosmopolitan. Are its owners entitled to any kind of compensation for the fact that for example their swimming pool will have to do without direct sun, or that the views from a lot of rooms will be blocked by the Cosmopolitan?

LMich -

Let me point out the irony of your own tag lines:

"A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within." - Will Durant

"If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything."

I don't want to be rude but what on earth are you talking about? This is a discussion board about (high rise) construction in Las Vegas and I don't see in what ways you contribute to this discussion with that post.

[Silas]

One thing I contributed by my recent posts is that I caused VegasTaT guy to remove his strange statement which encouraged people to vandalize parking garages. His bizarre statement was especially confusing because his web site seems to celebrate the new construction -- and his advertising comes from the new hotels, casinos and condos.

My posts have benefitted everyone. They have benefitted VegasTaT guy the most. The worst thing that could have happened for him is for people like you to just look the other way - and for others to actually take his advice and desecrate the parking garages at CityCenter, Trump, Cosmo, Bellagio, etc. Do you know what trouble VegasTaT would be in with the major Vegas players? So, VegasTaT guy is the big winner by my posts.

Second winners are the people visiting these resorts who do not want to pay up to $300/night to see grafitti smeared all over the structures. They would also pay more next time for the clean up.

Third benefactors from my post are those chumps who would have actually broken the law by vandalizing, then incriminated themselves by sending in photos for all to see.

Fourth benefactors are casino and resort operators, such as MGM, Harrah's who make the world go 'round in Vegas

Fifth are those good people who are in the real estate industry, who are loosely affiliated with VegasTaT guy. All those guys who post the great photos on these sites. They do not want to be associated with vandalism, of course.

Sixth is general society at large. If people pointed these sort of things out in general and held people (all people) accountable, then, IMO, everyone is better off and we as Americans can be proud of our cities (like Vegas) and our society. If we choose to ignore these types of statements (why would we?) then we can only accept any grafitti, 'tagging' whatever we would call it anywhere and everywhre in our society.

[highriseLV]

Originally Posted by Vegas Grows Up

Can anyone see where more may be coming in located in core areas? I do not see many over the next 5-10 years.

What about downtown?

[Don Pacho]

Originally Posted by cosmo2k8

Hi everyone,

Just received the Cosmo newsletter for May 2007

In it they reveal the glass facade for the 100 foot podium:

Nice Piece Of Glass

A 14,000-mile trip, just to look at some glass? Not just any glass of course. Attention to detail and the absolute finest materials are what discerning individuals like you demand in a residence. That's why Ian Bruce Eichner led a group from Perini Building Company (General Contractor for The Cosmopolitan) on a trip to Shenzen, China to examine the prototype of The Cosmopolitan's glass facade. Everyone was thrilled with the result. Customized to our exacting standards by Far East Glass, the facade is sleek, modern and striking. The dramatic contours of the glass have never been seen before in Las Vegas. Veering out and over the Strip, it acts as a translucent canopy. Innovative. Thought-provoking. Utterly unique.



Cheers,
Kevin L.

Wow!! Love that facade !!

Amazing design.

[VegasMatt]

Here's a smaller mixed-use project going up near the Henderson airport.




More info on City Crossing can be found here:

http://www.plise.com/

There are plenty of pictures following the link.

Enjoy!

[Vegas Grows Up]

Originally Posted by highriseLV

What about downtown?

Downtown is an entirely different animal. Also, downtown highrises are not replacing potential casino sites there, they are replacing 50 year old neighborhoods as well as blank land such as the 61 acres.

True Blue asked about The Strip in his question. We were discussing how highrise condos could potentially landlock Strip parcels in the future. This is also why I included the word "core areas" meaning Tropicana to Sahara.

[Superfish]

That reminds me.

Remember that one midrise project from long ago that had problems? What was it called.. Vegas Grand.

Apparently it's still alive and kicking. The parking garage is done and they have a couple 4 story building complexes fully framed already.


Good to see it progressing.


Many of these smaller mixed use midrises/lowrises such as what vegasMatt posted are popping up all over the valley. I think they're great as they create higher density living and moves us away from simple single family suburbs.

It also creates a more urban atmosphere then any suburb would with the retail they provide. Most of them since they are one project have an overall water saving design too. No acres of water wasteful and unused lawns here.


Here's a couple:

Pretty big project in the southwest.
http://www.manhattanwest.com/

I'm sure many already know about Sullivan Square, pretty nice architecture here.
http://www.sullivansquarelasvegas.com/

Promenada is another down by Rainbow.
www.promenadaatrainbow.com

There are several in the far northwest as well.

[True Blue]

It seems that practically every new project has some sort of residential component in them. My guess is it’s easier to get financing in order to construct the building. As far as I know, the Echelon Place Resort is the only project introduced that does not offer residential units.

Aaron, I suppose in the waaaaaay distant future, a developer could try to purchase the 400 units of the Sky, for instance, in order to implode and rebuild. I wonder if the city would get involved and use imminent domain powers to force the last holdouts to sell. I'm sure this would not be financially feasible for any developer. The Sky doesn't have enough acres to make it attractive to rebuild. As I said, this is a long way in the future and I won’t be around to worry about it. Right now I'm going to sit back and enjoy all the new hi-rises being built.

[mdiederi]

Speaking of midrises, what project is this? It's in the middle of that empty land on Tropicana east of the MGM.

[mdiederi]

The Hoover Dam Bypass Project just released some new photos of the Colorado River Bridge (also known as "The Mike O'Callaghan-Pat Tillman Memorial Bridge"). They were shot in March.