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Old Posted Jul 15, 2019, 12:23 AM
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Not generally so, no.

Just outdated and inaccurate.
Why inaccurate though? I kinda sensed that Sugar Sammy was using that term for fun.
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Why inaccurate though? I kinda sensed that Sugar Sammy was using that term for fun.
It is inaccurate to, as people often do, use Hindu as a synonym for Indian.
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Ah okay. I was wondering about that too.
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may i ask what difference it would make if i used Car or Parce que?

will anyone care if i just stick to parce que?
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may i ask what difference it would make if i used Car or Parce que?

will anyone care if i just stick to parce que?
I see Car as a more well spoken ''Parce que'' but in the daily language, people will rarely use car.
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"Quebecois French Required for the Job"

https://www.facebook.com/tfoONfr/vid...2wLG8bvftgpWr6

I just chanced upon this video from half a year ago. I haven't watched the whole thing yet but so far it seems interesting~
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Old Posted Sep 10, 2019, 8:25 PM
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I just chanced upon this video from half a year ago. I haven't watched the whole thing yet but so far it seems interesting~
This was basically about Ontario. I wonder if the same phenomenon exists in Quebec to the same degree, and if it really is about the callers or if it's just something some recruiters imagine is needed. At times you see that the guy was talking to people in English and looking at English job ads.

I've said before that English Canadians tend to make a huge deal out of Canadian French being a special thing while they don't really think about say Canadian English vs. UK or Australian English in the same way. I could imagine an Anglophone recruiter knowing just enough about this to be dangerous and being convinced that a particular dialect or accent should be a job requirement.

I was in Europe recently and I encountered expat (Anglophone) Canadians there who regretted the fact that they couldn't speak French because they were taught Canadian French instead of standard European French. In reality they probably never learned much French at all, and it's not realistic to expect to learn a language over a few years in school and then live as a native speaker decades later using that knowledge.
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This was basically about Ontario. I wonder if the same phenomenon exists in Quebec to the same degree, and if it really is about the callers or if it's just something some recruiters imagine is needed. At times you see that the guy was talking to people in English and looking at English job ads.
I think you are absolutely right, it's something recruiters imagine is needed. Based on the various accents I hear when I call any organisation's customer service, private or public, the accent doesn't seem to be important when someone is hired in a call centre in Quebec.

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I was in Europe recently and I encountered expat (Anglophone) Canadians there who regretted the fact that they couldn't speak French because they were taught Canadian French instead of standard European French. In reality they probably never learned much French at all, and it's not realistic to expect to learn a language over a few years in school and then live as a native speaker decades later using that knowledge.
It's the same French anyway. In it's written form, Quebec French is 99% similar to French from France. And as Acajack has mentioned a few times, basically, Quebec French is to France French what Texas English is to British English. Some expressions are different, but it's still mutually intelligible.

When I travel with my family and we meet French families (happened a few times in Slovenia and Croatia this summer), my kids play with the French kids and it usually takes a long while before they even get a comment on their accent. And then it can be "are you from Belgium or Switzerland?". Or "C'est étrange, il est doux votre accent!" (by which they probably mean "I'm surprised that you are from Quebec and I can understand you just fine".

With Youtube (my kids watch lots of French Youtubers) and easy international communications, the differences in accents and vocabulary tends to flatten over time, I noticed.
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Old Posted Sep 10, 2019, 9:14 PM
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When I travel with my family and we meet French families (happened a few times in Slovenia and Croatia this summer), my kids play with French kids and it usually takes a long while before they even get a comment on their accent. And then it can be "are you from Belgium or Switzerland?". Or "C'est étrange, il est doux votre accent!" (by which they probably mean "I'm surprised that I can understand you just fine".

With Youtube (my kids watch lots of French Youtubers) and easy international communications, the differences in accents and vocabulary tends to flatten over time, I noticed.
As far as my own experience goes, I grew up speaking English and French when I was a kid and did a mix of schooling in both languages while moving around from place to place but now I lived in Vancouver and use French about once every 2 years. I was just in France and Belgium and had a bunch of conversations and smaller interactions that seemingly went fine. If I can do it a person who lives in Quebec and speaks French every day definitely can. French TV and movies or in-person conversations remind me of UK English vs. Canadian English. Some words are different and it can be a bit less clear but it's not a big deal, and if you spent any length of time in the other environment you'd pick up the differences very quickly.

One thing that was a little awkward is that my travelling companion doesn't speak much French, and if we spoke English together in front of service staff they often asssumed we wanted service in English but often their English was bad or nonexistent. I have found that switching to English with them is the wrong thing to do in those situations. It's better to continue speak French.
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