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Old Posted Sep 20, 2019, 6:13 PM
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Sort of an odd question, and feel free to PM me with the answer, but does anyone know of, or can rattle off a list of developers for all the larger buildings around Chicago? I'm the creative director at a media production agency that's chalk full of architecture enthusiasts and we're all chomping at the bit to do some work for a big development. Here's something we did for the CAC this spring.

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Old Posted Sep 21, 2019, 2:44 AM
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Rivian gets a huge order from Amazon

Not Chicago news, but great manufacturing news for Normal, IL:

https://www.chicagobusiness.com/manu...ehicles-rivian
Yeah that's a big order. I think Normal had a Mitzubti plant down there or some other similar plant. I wonder if its the same one.

Anyway a 100,000 order for electric vans is a large order, really large if you think about how the distributers of the Midwest will benefit not necessarily the line workers only.

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100,000 emission-free delivery vans, all to be built at the company's assembly plant in Normal. The first of the vehicles is expected to hit American roadways in 2021
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Old Posted Sep 21, 2019, 7:19 AM
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What a $250 million 15 floor glorified selfie stick and monument to narcissism and questionable ADA compliance isn't doing it for you?

God I'm not sure which is a more pathetic attempt to ape the experience of the Bean: Vessel or that actual knock off of the Bean in China...

There may not me another comparable work environment to the West Loop anywhere else in the US. It's closer to something you'd find in Europe, let's say Shoreditch in London, than anything else in the US.
Actually, I think it has a lot on common with South Lake Union and the north end of Belltown in Seattle, at least in regard to a lot of tech companies and midrises and a relatively young workforce.
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Old Posted Sep 21, 2019, 1:24 PM
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Yeah that's a big order. I think Normal had a Mitzubti plant down there or some other similar plant. I wonder if its the same one.

Anyway a 100,000 order for electric vans is a large order, really large if you think about how the distributers of the Midwest will benefit not necessarily the line workers only.
True about the distributors.

I don’t know anything about automobile manufacturing, so I haven’t a clue about how many jobs this will create. But if it’s 100k vehicles I can imagine it will be a lot. Along with upstream suppliers, as you mentioned.

Not only that, but with big names like Ford and Amazon backing this venture, I can only imagine and hope that 100k vehicles is just the beginning.

This is great news because these are modern battery powered vehicles. This could potentially be the beginnings of an electric car manufacturing ecosystem in the State and Midwest if all goes well.

I’m also glad that Rivian is based in metro Detroit instead of Silicon Valley. We need to share in the spoils of the high tech economy much more around here than we have been. We’ve been slow to come around, but it’s due time.
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Old Posted Sep 21, 2019, 2:56 PM
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Yeah that's a big order. I think Normal had a Mitzubti plant down there or some other similar plant. I wonder if its the same one.

Anyway a 100,000 order for electric vans is a large order, really large if you think about how the distributers of the Midwest will benefit not necessarily the line workers only.
It is the same plant. Mitsubishi shutting down production there was a massive loss for Normal as they employed up to 1,200 people during peak production.

It remains to be seen whether or not Rivian will end up employing 1,000 workers by 2024 in order to qualify for EDGE credits but production is scheduled to start early next year.

I know there is some skepticism about this company but I'd imagine Amazon is doing their due diligence here.

These jobs pay about $24/hour which is good for Central Illinois where the COL is pretty low.
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Old Posted Sep 22, 2019, 12:54 AM
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Rivian also has plans to produce this awesome looking electric pickup:



I would consider buying one in a few years if the reviews are good in terms of quality when they start coming out. Supposed to have a huge battery with 400+ mile range.
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Chicago not looking too strong as an investment target, but I found this to be quite noteworthy (see bolded portion):

https://www.chicagobusiness.com/comm...g-survey-finds

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In short, the Chicago market is a mixed bag, says the survey by PwC and the Urban Land Institute. The report points out that investors have poured money into its industrial and apartment sectors. But it knocks the area for its “widely publicized challenges,” including crime and fiscal problems stemming from underfunded public pensions.

“It is a city with both great strengths and great weaknesses,” the report says. “One thing that Chicago has going for it is its job density. A recent Brookings Institution study showed that 90 percent of the increase in post-2005 job density occurred in just four metro areas: Chicago, New York City, San Francisco and Seattle. Whether this will eclipse Chicago’s reputation for gun violence remains to be seen.”

Chicago also scores poorly as a market for homebuilders, ranking 78th out of the 80 metro areas for “homebuilding prospects.”
And Evanston getting some love:

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But the report gives suburban Evanston a shout-out, citing it as an example of “hipsturbia”: suburbs that have a vibrancy and cool factor, along with an abundance of retail, restaurants and recreation.

It helps that Evanston is a college town, with Northwestern University providing “a constant supply of young adults.”

“Rooftop bars, Lake Michigan beaches, downtown shopping and access to and from the Chicago Loop via the Chicago Transit Authority’s Purple Line help round out the elements of coolness in one of the Midwest’s oldest suburbs,” the report says.
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And Evanston getting some love:
but i though Evanston was too ritzy, too North Shore-y, no different than Winnetka.
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^ I'm 0% surprised about any of that data. Maybe slightly about the density part, but then again a large percentage of jobs that have been added in the city of Chicago in the last decade were in just a few square mile area.

Also in case anybody cares, the 2018 ACS 1 year will be released on Thursday sometime. This is the city level data - we won't be able to see what's going on in the neighborhoods until December (5 year ACS).
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Old Posted Sep 23, 2019, 10:30 PM
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but i though Evanston was too ritzy, too North Shore-y, no different than Winnetka.
Yeah it's not like those other North Shore towns.

Somehow, however, I still like Oak Park's vibe more. Hard to explain...
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^ I'm 0% surprised about any of that data. Maybe slightly about the density part, but then again a large percentage of jobs that have been added in the city of Chicago in the last decade were in just a few square mile area.

Also in case anybody cares, the 2018 ACS 1 year will be released on Thursday sometime. This is the city level data - we won't be able to see what's going on in the neighborhoods until December (5 year ACS).
Cool! I look forward to your posts with updated demographics...
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Old Posted Sep 24, 2019, 8:28 PM
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Shall we start line? I’m thinking the city will come in at 2.75m. If we can get back up to 2.8 by 2020 that would be
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Shall we start line? I’m thinking the city will come in at 2.75m. If we can get back up to 2.8 by 2020 that would be
In the 2018 ACS? not a chance it's 2.75M. It'll be just over 2.7M. I'm more interested in what the other numbers say anyway
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Old Posted Sep 25, 2019, 3:09 AM
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UST Global, a fast growing tech company, opening a Chicago office in the Loop:

https://www.builtinchicago.org/2019/...chicago-office

Starting with 100 IT and engineering jobs, with “hundreds” more to be added within the next few years
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Old Posted Sep 25, 2019, 12:32 PM
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City was at 2.722 in 2016. I think we were adding about 15k per year. We’ll find out soon.
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City was at 2.722 in 2016. I think we were adding about 15k per year. We’ll find out soon.
It has not been adding lately. It's been subtracting. My guess is between 2705000 and 2710000.
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It has not been adding lately. It's been subtracting. My guess is between 2705000 and 2710000.
sounds about right, maybe a little less
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sounds about right, maybe a little less
The ACS and the estimate survey usually are close to one another. However, each has been adjusted the last 2 years and added 10k people to the initial estimates. Always take it with a little grain of salt. I think the v5 year ACS is a little more accurate in any case.
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Yeah it's not like those other North Shore towns.

Somehow, however, I still like Oak Park's vibe more. Hard to explain...
Evanston is more edgy, partly because of Northwestern but also because it has more class diversity. Evanston Township High School has 38.4% students eligible for free/reduced lunch, whereas Oak Park River Forest has only 21.5%.

Oak Park's diversity is the result of a carefully managed integration process, whereas Evanston's is due to the historic presence of a black/Latino underclass.
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The ACS and the estimate survey usually are close to one another. However, each has been adjusted the last 2 years and added 10k people to the initial estimates. Always take it with a little grain of salt. I think the v5 year ACS is a little more accurate in any case.
Interesting. I just looked at the most recent ACS five year estimate and it actually shows that Chicago grew from 2016 to 2017.
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