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Old Posted Sep 16, 2019, 2:44 PM
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It's a post war style popular everywhere. I don't see anything specific to Soviet Era.

Not sure if you googled the actual building. It's a minimalist design. The details are subtle so there is less an architect can get away with. The finer details are lost in Telus Sky's structurally expressive form, for example. The engineering is obviously more complex than a modernist "box". The architecture design in its truest form is a simple subway tile pattern. There's nothing intrinsic or abstract in that pattern.
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Old Posted Sep 16, 2019, 3:17 PM
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I was not aware that the brick wall was an existing building. Either way....

My reference to "Soviet Era" was more referring to the fact that there are really no design elements to the facade at all. A 4 storey wall of brick with sash style windows.

I agree that a design element to break up all the glass is a good idea, but I guess I find that I don't think that this element works.
For better or for worse, new towers on top of totally clashing old podiums has become Toronto's defining architectural statement so far in this century.
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Old Posted Sep 16, 2019, 6:02 PM
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That podium for Sugar Wharf looks like a schools or government office rather than a residence.
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Old Posted Sep 16, 2019, 7:21 PM
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Sugar Wharf ain't awful. It's an investor driven product giving the airbnb & rental crowd what they want: balconies, tiny units to rent out for $150/night. It looks like a few projects going up London, Berlin and Amsterdam.

Even I suggested they do something similar two years ago
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That podium for Sugar Wharf looks like a schools or government office rather than a residence.

It's the LCBO head office, until the new one is built...
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Old Posted Sep 17, 2019, 5:45 PM
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It's not worth saving if you ask me. It's very drab and utilitarian looking.
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Old Posted Sep 17, 2019, 10:35 PM
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In 1999, they'd have sold them as Liquor Lofts with some new 8-10 storey additions. It looks much nicer in person.
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Old Posted Sep 17, 2019, 11:02 PM
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I have my doubts they would have added 2x more area to the development in the 1990s. None of the numerous warehouse conversions had substantial additions if at all in the 1990s. The enormous Merchandise Building was broken up into 6 phases. There would be no need to phase it over the past 15 years. In fact, a developer today would add a 50 storey point tower or two on top.

The building would have still been overshadowed with an 8 to 10 storey addition.

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Old Posted Sep 17, 2019, 11:10 PM
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It's not worth saving if you ask me. It's very drab and utilitarian looking.
I agree. It's not worth saving as a facade slapped on to a glass supertall complex. It was worth saving as a complete building. It's a solid building. It's not exceptional by an means. It's worth saving as part of our architectural legacy. There aren't too many major modernist examples left from this era. There's an abundance of 2010 to 2020 examples for future generations to pick out only the exceptional to preserve.
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Unfortunately it's location was it's worst enemy. It had zero chance of remaining intact in it's current form. There are a lot more example of that style outside of the core, just not many downtown.
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Old Posted Sep 18, 2019, 8:38 PM
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Worst enemy is that everyone is broke and development brings in $$$ and regular folks just don't care. Architectural history is only considered as long as it doesn't interfere with development and those $$$. A facade doesn't interfere. This was in public hands. We had control over its destiny. Location is just a copout for how our past is treated in this city. The 11 acre (?) Sugar Wharf plan has the room to have left it as it is.
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Old Posted Sep 19, 2019, 2:20 PM
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It's not just a Toronto problem, it's just seems more prominent here because of the sheer amount of construction going on. It happens with almost every new build in cities like NYC and others.
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I hadn't seen this interior render of the HUB yet.

The HUB 2024
274m roof/301m spire/60s

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Old Posted Sep 25, 2019, 4:13 PM
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wasnt it 311m with spire?
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Old Posted Sep 25, 2019, 5:05 PM
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I'm just going from the blueprints shown. 306.1m


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Old Posted Sep 25, 2019, 6:01 PM
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yeah, the latest height is 305.2 metres. It may be entirely different once it is built. It's twin flagpoles afterall.
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Old Posted Sep 25, 2019, 6:38 PM
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yes indeed.
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Old Posted Sep 25, 2019, 6:59 PM
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