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Old Posted Aug 29, 2019, 4:47 PM
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Of course; I am sure there are multiple options. Looking on the bright side, to some handicapped, the trip down would be a dream! They'd feel like they were racing at Monaco.
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Of course; I am sure there are multiple options. Looking on the bright side, to some handicapped, the trip down would be a dream! They'd feel like they were racing at Monaco.
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Old Posted Aug 29, 2019, 5:31 PM
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I think these two buildings are rather nice and will compliment the 900-1000ft corner tower nicely making it like a bookend. That has sort of been one of Chicago's trademarks with Sears on one end and JH on the other(don't really care what they call them now officially) Any skyline argument between NYC and Chicago gets trumped by the more balanced look of Chicago compared to NYC partly due to the big black bookends
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I think these two buildings are rather nice and will compliment the 900-1000ft corner tower nicely making it like a bookend. That has sort of been one of Chicago's trademarks with Sears on one end and JH on the other(don't really care what they call them now officially) Any skyline argument between NYC and Chicago gets trumped by the more balanced look of Chicago compared to NYC partly due to the big black bookends
That's definitely one of the reasons I like how the skyline isn't totally filled to the brim with supertalls. The space between the buildings lets them breathe and creates wonderful peaks and valleys. If everything was tall, I just don't think it would look (as) good. If all the supertalls for the river confluence are built though, it'll be interesting to see, since we have never had supertalls clustered like that before. There will only be a handful of blocks separating Trump, Aon, Pru2, Vista, Site I, 400n LSD, Tribune 2 and potentially whatever takes up the NBC lots. Hopefully it turns out more like Shanghai and less like Dubai
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The thing I keep coming back to is how messy the stretch of buildings on Wacker, from Vista to Parcel I, look.
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^messy? I'm not seeing anything messy.
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Ummm. Yeah. Not sure that's how many would see it.
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My gosh I hope that view is real someday (like that those towers actually happen in real life instead of being visionary)
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Wow the site is really buzzing! Anyone know what the big hole is in the foreground? Swimming pool?


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^ Right!!

With cars flying across LSD in the background, this site is so beautifully complex.

Very excited to see where the tower cranes pop up
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Given that it's all one organization, wouldn't it make the most sense to put in all the caissons for Site I at the same time as these? What's the setup/teardown cost versus the incremental labor cost? And won't setup/teardown be harder with a smaller footprint next time?
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Wow the site is really buzzing! Anyone know what the big hole is in the foreground? Swimming pool?


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This site is the Related, or former Spire site correct, and not the Cirrus and Cascade site at LSE?
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This site is the Related, or former Spire site correct, and not the Cirrus and Cascade site at LSE?
Correct - and 400 is still a nice open space with natural fauna.
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Given that it's all one organization, wouldn't it make the most sense to put in all the caissons for Site I at the same time as these? What's the setup/teardown cost versus the incremental labor cost? And won't setup/teardown be harder with a smaller footprint next time?
They probably would see some cost savings to do them at the same time, both in saved mobilization and rising costs of future construction. But in order to do them at the same time, they would need to have the site I design and drawings completed to the point that they can fully develop and permit the foundation, they would need to be certain that future market forces or other factors would not significantly change the design of Site I to be able to use the same foundation, and related to that be certain enough that construction om Site I will happen soon enough and still under Related ownership to make early foundation construction make sense. So it's weighing cost savings against potential risk.
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^This brings us back to the recent post I made in Site I thread. On 8/16, Tom Kerwin posted a photo celebrating the groundbreaking of all these sites including site I. I doubt he made a gaffe. The Architect likely knows something we don't.

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This site is the Related, or former Spire site correct, and not the Cirrus and Cascade site at LSE?
Yep, I was just yanking your chain.
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