Surrey/South Fraser Updates

[trofirhen]

^^^^Maybe they can tweak that red building a bit. It's not gonna win any beauty prize as is.
§ Regarding all the back-and-forthing about people in Surrey not knowing what a downtown is, etc etc etc, someone will come show them, plus they're travelling and learning all the time.
If new SFH is built, or condos, let's hope they look nice. Let's take the telephone poles and signs down, and put the wiring underground.
There is already some fine new architecture in Surrey, as I saw in an SFU Surrey thread. If the streets are sleek and green, the transport works, the infrastucture works and looks nice...
It's gonna be great, given good street life, liveable and pleasant residential, close amenities, and pleasant surroundings with a high % of green.

[Millennium2002]

Originally Posted by SFUVancouver

(old design)



(new design)



Source: http://www.thenownewspaper.com/news/...ml?mobile=true

The new design, while cheaper in shape, reminds me more of Vimy Ridge with the highlighted red protrusions...

The older design, while much more expressive, might cause some people to call it the "twin towers"... and I doubt the legion wants to be mistakenly associated with 9/11 vs its actual purpose of honouring Canada's veterans.

Now I suppose they could have changed the structural design itself such that the building(s) looked more like Vimy Ridge itself (and perhaps with a giant connected glass atrium in the middle such that it actually looks like one building), but it's hard to say whether the legion would have been able to afford that... I mean... the economics of building a tower at Guildford are already shaky enough given the cheap land available throughout the rest of the City of Surrey...

[Blease]

The land won't cost them anything, as they already own it.

[SurreyonTheMap]

As someone who wants Surrey to become more and more distinct, I'm all for stuff like this new building for the veterans especially it's around the time of 100 year anniversary of World War 1. As Allan_Kuan said, that the new building does look more like Vimy Ridge, i would like it to be similar to that and redrawn to become more similar to Vimy Ridge.

I also think Surrey needs something like a clock tower something like a steam clock in downtown Vancouver somewhere in city centre which would really look nice for Surrey.

[Shift]

I feel like the best possible site for a historical landmark in Surrey would be the corner of 108 and King George, 'Whalley's Corner'. Could somehow signifiy the former rest stop/service station that was once there on the route between New Westminster and the US Border, and where Surrey developed from. A public art piece in the plaza that will eventually be built on that corner, perhaps a replica of the original sign?

Other than that you cant really make up a historical land mark like the steam clock.

The veterans project will create a new plaza space which will become Surrey's equivalent to Victory Square. The space will be used for Remembrance Day ceremonies and likely have a memorial. Will contribute to the sense of place in Surrey's downtown.

[sryboy]

Over at www.civicsurrey.com Paul has posted the first renderings of the new arena in North Surrey.:

http://www.civicsurrey.com/2016/11/1...ement-project/

Maybe i feel spoiled by all the great architecture in Central City but this design looks blah...

too bad they couldn't have worked out a P3 deal or something with the Giants.

[retro_orange]

Originally Posted by sryboy

Over at www.civicsurrey.com Paul has posted the first renderings of the new arena in North Surrey.:

http://www.civicsurrey.com/2016/11/1...ement-project/

Maybe i feel spoiled by all the great architecture in Central City but this design looks blah...

too bad they couldn't have worked out a P3 deal or something with the Giants.

It looks very nice to me

[Sheba]

My complaint would be that there's seating only along one side of the rink and the other side meets the wall. One end is open for something (entrance to the building or the rink itself?) and we can't see if there's anything at the other end.


http://www.civicsurrey.com/

[officedweller]

I think there's another open space behind that wall - you can see through some of the openings - could be another rink or a gym?
If it's a gym - it also raises the question whether that dividing wall is moveable (with the uneven openings to show a "flex" wall) to allow for additional seating on the other side (for special events) - subject to what look like narrow steel columns to support the joint in the roof arches.

The wavey roof form over the rink pictured is - I think - the middle arch on the exterior drawings.


http://www.civicsurrey.com/2016/11/1...ement-project/

[Shift]

Arena looks fine. It's not meant to be a spectator arena... its function is for minor hockey leagues mainly, mostly for youth, as the current rinks serve now.

Will be a much welcome addition the Scott Rd Station area, and hopefully spur further re-development around it / kick-start the South Westminster Plan.

With completion in summer 2019 though, looks like we still have a long wait until the Surrey Central rinks can be redeveloped.

[Whalleyboy]

the reason for the blank wall is for the plan of future expansion. While only building two right now they want to have more there in the futures.

[Ramsay]

Originally Posted by Whalleyboy

the reason for the blank wall is for the plan of future expansion. While only building two right now they want to have more there in the futures.

I"m not so sure about that, it looks like there is another sheet of ice on the other side of that partition.

I think the design fits well with the South Westminster location.

[GMasterAres]

Originally Posted by Whalleyboy

the reason for the blank wall is for the plan of future expansion. While only building two right now they want to have more there in the futures.

Building two what? The report says they are building three ice surfaces as part of this project. Sorry a bit confused.

[rickvug]

(whoops, wrong thread)

[Whalleyboy]

Originally Posted by jhausner

Building two what? The report says they are building three ice surfaces as part of this project. Sorry a bit confused.

I could have sworn the plans called for 2 with the planning for a 3rd later. I didn't see the plan change for three.

[red-paladin]

Some new White Rock proposals:

http://www.vancouvermarket.ca/2016/1...-developments/

[scryer]

Originally Posted by officedweller

I think there's another open space behind that wall - you can see through some of the openings - could be another rink or a gym?
If it's a gym - it also raises the question whether that dividing wall is moveable (with the uneven openings to show a "flex" wall) to allow for additional seating on the other side (for special events) - subject to what look like narrow steel columns to support the joint in the roof arches.

The wavey roof form over the rink pictured is - I think - the middle arch on the exterior drawings.


http://www.civicsurrey.com/2016/11/1...ement-project/

I don't mind the design but I really just want SOMETHING by Scott Road. That area is such a diamond in the rough. And I don't necessarily mean that we have to expand residential in the area either,

[BobLoblawsLawBlog]

Originally Posted by red-paladin

Some new White Rock proposals:

http://www.vancouvermarket.ca/2016/1...-developments/

Horrible design for the first one. They look like if Seapunk was thrown into architecture.

[Shift]

This one is back on the Council agenda for Monday Dec 5 for OCP Amendment, Rezoning, DP, and DVP, also to set a date for another Public Hearing.

Since the last Public Hearing in 2015, the developer, WestStone, has now acquired all of the mobile homes on the property, with the last purchase set to close on June 30, 2017.

At that point the site will be vacated and they can move forward with the project.

Will see two 6-storey seniors apartment buildings, and a 12-storey mixed-use assisted living care facility/office building built across the street from Surrey Memorial and at the southern edge of City Centre. Will also create a new road dedication extending 95 Avenue from the west,








http://www.surrey.ca/bylawsandcounci...0114-00(3).pdf

[Shift]

Open House was held last week for Forsyth Park, a new park being planned for City Centre. Phase 1 is scheduled to open by Fall 2017.

There was a nice illustrative plan of the future City Centre as part of the boards.

See link below for boards:





Close up of the Surrey Central area:



http://www.surrey.ca/culture-recreation/2076.aspx