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Old Posted Aug 14, 2018, 6:58 PM
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No surprise to see Montreal and Vancouver at the bottom, but shocked to see Abbotsford so low.
I wonder how they count houses with multiple households. This may include basement apartments, subdivided multistory homes like Vancouver Specials, or renters living in a room.

You might say a house with a basement apartment is a 2-unit apartment building, or you might say it's two households living in a detached house.
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I wonder how they count houses with multiple households. This may include basement apartments, subdivided multistory homes like Vancouver Specials, or renters living in a room.

You might say a house with a basement apartment is a 2-unit apartment building, or you might say it's two households living in a detached house.

It's self-reported census data, so ultimately up the resident's interpretation. I'd guess that in most cases of the detached-house-with-basement-apartment that the "upstairs" homeowner would say they live in a detached house while the household renting the basement would check off apartment.

In any case, I'd also assume the margin of error with respect to that sort of personal interpretation to be fairly consistent across the country.
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It's self-reported census data, so ultimately up the resident's interpretation. I'd guess that in most cases of the detached-house-with-basement-apartment that the "upstairs" homeowner would say they live in a detached house while the household renting the basement would check off apartment.

In any case, I'd also assume the margin of error with respect to that sort of personal interpretation to be fairly consistent across the country.
The criteria is "attached" or "not attached". It's not difficult to understand A bachelor pad in the basement is attached.
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Old Posted Aug 14, 2018, 7:34 PM
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It's self-reported census data, so ultimately up the resident's interpretation. I'd guess that in most cases of the detached-house-with-basement-apartment that the "upstairs" homeowner would say they live in a detached house while the household renting the basement would check off apartment.

In any case, I'd also assume the margin of error with respect to that sort of personal interpretation to be fairly consistent across the country.
The margins are probably similar but some places have a lot more basement apartments than others. BC is the land of basement apartments, while comparatively few people live in basement apartments where real estate is cheaper.

The house-to-apartment thing is one possible explanation for why a place like Abbotsford, which looks like it's mostly detached houses, could have so few people reporting that they live in detached houses.
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I've been told by realtors in Ontario that an in-ground pool does increase a home's resale value in Ontario, but that it also cuts the pool of potential resale buyers in half.
This may be more accurate than my claim of it decreasing the housing value. Pools are just a hassle for a lot of people. Jacuzzis are much more popular.
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I thought this was a funny little find.

The worldwide range of the common rat.


From: https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/com...he_common_rat/

I had no idea Alberta was so vigilant in defending it's borders from unwanted rodents, but apparently the rat patrol is very serious business.

http://www1.agric.gov.ab.ca/$department/deptdocs.nsf/All/agdex3441
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I thought this was a funny little find.

The worldwide range of the common rat.


From: https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/com...he_common_rat/

I had no idea Alberta was so vigilant in defending it's borders from unwanted rodents, but apparently the rat patrol is very serious business.

http://www1.agric.gov.ab.ca/$department/deptdocs.nsf/All/agdex3441
Saskatchewan also has an active rat patrol program in place and is working very hard to become rat free as well. I was born (1961) and have lived in Alberta my whole life and have never seen a live wild rat in Alberta.
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After thinking about it I can't remember ever seeing a rat in the wild in Ontario either. Definitely had a mouse problem at the cottage before and have seen them near the subway tracks too, but never a large NYC-looking rat. Raccoons, skunks, and bats seem to be the far more frequent vermin.
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I've definitely seen some massive rats in laneways off Spadina. We had a decent sized one die in the basement of my former place a while back but luckily the exterminator determined it was just passing through. Apparently they travel through the basements of older attached buildings in the city. Chinatown and Kensington are the hotspots, which should surprise nobody.
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I've never actually seen a rat here in Canada. I've seen them in other countries, though.
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I've definitely seen some massive rats in laneways off Spadina. We had a decent sized one die in the basement of my former place a while back but luckily the exterminator determined it was just passing through. Apparently they travel through the basements of older attached buildings in the city. Chinatown and Kensington are the hotspots, which should surprise nobody.
Makes sense, I'm sure they are much more frequently encountered when you live at ground-level.

Domesticated rats actually make really good pets. I had a buddy from school growing up who had a bunch that he saved from being sold as snake food. They're very clean and are much more affectionate than hamsters or gerbils.
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I've mostly lived in SFHs in my lifetime, or short apartment buildings (think 4-5 floors). I've never lived in a high-rise.
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After thinking about it I can't remember ever seeing a rat in the wild in Ontario either. Definitely had a mouse problem at the cottage before and have seen them near the subway tracks too, but never a large NYC-looking rat. Raccoons, skunks, and bats seem to be the far more frequent vermin.
I've seen several in Toronto...
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I had a dead rat floating in my swimming pool a couple of years ago.

My most vivid memory of Expo 67 was seeing a dead rat floating in one of the canals on Ile Ste Helene.
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I think it's naive to think any large urban metro can be rat free. As long as you have items shipped in from other areas you will be getting the pests from those areas as well.

https://globalnews.ca/news/4342316/r...-free-alberta/

3 rats found this spring in Calagary, The Horror!


Looks like rat control is a huge beusiness in a province that claims to be rat free. Check out this website, it reads like a SciFi novel.

https://spartanpestcontrol.com/calga...estation-rise/

"INTERESTING FACTS ABOUT RATS

1. Survive a five-story fall without injury
2. Last without water longer than a camel
3. Survive large doses of radiation
4. Survive being flushed down the toilet (and find their way back inside via the same route)
5. Swim for half a mile in open water
6. Build immunity to poison
7. Eat their own feces for nutrients
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"TURNING INTO ZOMBIE RATS"

"SOME RATS CAN GROW UP TO BE ALMOST 9 POUNDS"

I don't know how Alberta can claim to be rat free when they seem to have plenty of rat pest control companies.


In Toronto they can be found in most alley ways, I've seen a large one inside The Black Bull on Queen street that was the size of a small cat. It ran from one end of the bar to the other during the day and sent people running and screaming.
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I have seen at least a dozen large rats in my ~5 years in Kingston.
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You don't need to search very hard to find proof of rats in Alberta. What's even more ridiculous then the claim is how the media jumps all over it when somebody finds one. We get it, Alberta doesn't have a rat problem, but does it have rats? Yes.

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Obviously you can never be completely rat-free. The point is to take steps necessary to prevent strays from exploding into uncontrollable populations.
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