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Originally Posted by Horus
{EDIT} which someone noted above, with the stadium near Canada's Wonderland.
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AFAIK York9 will be playing two seasons at York University whilst their stadium near Canada's Wonderland is being built.
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Originally Posted by mintzilla
What crowd sizes would be necessary for this. 10k?
What would the time frame of a season be? Gets pretty cold from nov to march in most Canada.
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CPL is aiming for 5k-7K upon startup and reaching somewhere closer to 10K after a couple of seasons. Teams are expected to have 6K/7K minimum stadiums upon startup.
The season will be running through the summer similar to MLS. Roughly April-September.
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Vaughan FC would have been fine in my eyes.
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Vaughan SC already exists. Guessing they wanted to avoid looking like an affiliation or looking like a club that only represents one municipality.
People have a tendency to complain if all the teams are Vaughan United, Toronto FC, Brampton City...I don't mind it, but I understand why York would go with something trying to appeal to the wider region. We'll see how the other teams shake out but i'm usually in the camp that likes to avoid gimmicky team names (Hello, Ottawa Fury) and instead rely on fans and supporters to develop the culture for the nickname itself. Toronto FC is a good example of this:
The Reds is a side nickname but the team isn't Toronto Reds FC. Nicknames are better when they're organic and not forced. NYCFC is another example: they're nicknamed
The Pigeons, but you'd be crazy to try and market a New York Pigeons soccer team.
There's a good fiftyfive.one article on this:
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You might suggest that this is hypocritical from a Minnesota website who fought to keep its team named something Europhillic and boring. But the Minnesota United FC identity is an illustrative example. Eyes rolled when the “United” name was announced. But jaws dropped when people saw the crest. The key feature of the entire team’s identity is the crest element of the Loon, which immediately gave fans something to latch onto. Before the rebranding event had ended, the team had a staid, respectable soccer name, and a nickname around which to begin to build an organic culture.
This is how they do it in most other parts of the world. Our naming conventions are generally borrowed from England and Scotland, where teams have an official name and a ubiquitous nickname. Often, though not always, that nickname is a central feature of the club crest. This isn’t the only way to do it, but American soccer teams don’t seem to be giving fans any help in establishing common symbols to rally around.
Take Minnesota’s MLS expansion-mates, Atlanta United FC. After a long public brainstorming process that included intriguing names playing off Atlanta’s history as a railroad hub, its postbellum rebirth from the ashes, and other wild cards like “Black Harts”, the team went the unimaginative route with “United.” But unlike Minnesota’s effort years earlier, Atlanta declined to do anything interesting with their badge. What do we call Atlanta? The stripes? The A’s? The red and blacks? There’s not a lot to work with, and no evidence that fans have made any headway.
Joining MLS in 2018 are LAFC, who have insisted upon that soporific name since the very start. They’ve since added a very slick new crest, but the central problem remains. What to call this team? The wings? The angels (recipe for a lawsuit)? The Art Decos? Do they inherit “the goats” from the ghost of Chivas USA?
NYCFC similarly started life with a beautiful but completely unhelpful crest. It didn’t happen immediately, but enough fans have started to call the team “the Pigeons” to give me some hope of that fun, local, and interesting nickname sticking around.
You can go on an on with this stuff. Louisville City FC. St. Louis FC. FC Cincinnati. San Antonio FC. Puerto Rico FC. Nashville FC. Dull, dull, and dull.
Only a few clubs have gotten it right. The shining example among them is the Sacramento Republic, which managed to find an official name that was unique, local, and still Euro-sounding. Slap the state flag’s bear on the crest, and you’ve got the makings of a great club identity in the capital of California. Orlando City SC also found success, despite Orlando really being more accurately described as a large suburb. But the addition of lions to their USL crest and the prominent sun/lion on their MLS crest have reinforced the team’s nickname and identity.
Not every team needs to be the Rochester River Dogz or the Carolina RailHawks. There is a middle ground between a club looking minor league and looking joyless. One great way to do that is to create an identity that works formally and informally. Teams in the US have evidently lost that art, and that’s a shame.
http://fiftyfive.one/2016/12/opinion...rge-us-soccer/
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