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Originally Posted by NYguy
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The integration of the new and old buildings is fascinating to me... I made this sketch to keep track of the coordination between floors in the new and old sections. (The numbers in boxes are marketing levels while the numbers not in boxes are construction levels)
So if you look at the cutaway-model diagram you posted it looks like the atrium above the residential amenity gym does go up to Level 11. But that still leaves 6 floors (12-18) of open space.
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Originally Posted by Zerton
Looks like big open mechanical space. There's a cage ladder and a callout to see mechanical sheets for the layout. You'd need to the MEP drawings to see what's actually there. I'm guessing that's where most of the buildings mechanical stuff is going because there's not a lot of room up top.
They can't really use that space for units because there's no way to get required light & vent that deep in the building.
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And that's the thing about all that space, it actually does border on a lot of useable window space, at least in some places. For example, if you look at the plans of floors 14 and 15: (photoshopped together from different sheets from JDS construction set at
http://www.insensation.com/wp-conten...loor-Plans.pdf)
Floor 14
Floor 15
There's that cage ladder inside the enclosure around the elevators. But the whole south face (looking towards 57th st) is open with the glass curtain wall looking down onto the fitness patio. I guess the main issue is that we would need an MEP engineer to say what kind of equipment requires a 6 floor high space. But, throughout the rest of the documents available online all the main mechanical systems are accounted for, for example:
(from another PDF at
https://therealdeal.com/wp-content/u...ned_Part10.pdf)
I know this is getting overly scrutinizing but I think it's really interesting how much non-rentable space this building has in it, including entire floors of the old Steinway Hall building. Again on the floor plans posted above, the upper levels of both condominiums have a small amount of useable space but then are mostly void, including a lot of full windows that I guess will just be blacked out? It doesn't seem like all the rooms will be double height to the point of having two rows of windows. It's almost like this building is so luxurious that the architect / developer decided it was worth surrounding the apartments with emptiness to give them more privacy and lessen the load and occupancy. Maybe I'm reading into it and there really is an insane amount of venting/piping/compressors etc. because a tower like this is pretty much a contained city. But floors 2, 9, 12, and 15 are all full height with no residential, commercial, or obvious mechanical function. And then the only storage space the residents have available to them are those tiny cubbies in the basement that cost like $300,000 extra.
Here's one more plan, from the northern portion of floor 18:
(from the same PDF at
http://www.insensation.com/wp-conten...loor-Plans.pdf)
Ok, this one does say mechanical space, but it's still a huge, full-height, fully window-lined room looking onto 58th street that would make a great covert JDS/Illuminati office. I would want to use it if I wasn't so set on living in Duplex 60-61 which might be the best unit except for the very very top one.
And also, what about the windbreak floors? Are they safe to use as patios for a BBQ?