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Old Posted Feb 1, 2018, 11:34 PM
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The reason we got Nexus cards is for $10 (CDN) a year you get access to the TSA Pre security lines in US airports. If you travel through a large US airport once a year it quickly becomes worth it. Instead of waiting in long queues and fighting with your carry-on you basically walk right to the front of the line. It is actually a good bargain considering US citizens pay $17 (USD) a year for the same access.

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Separately, WestJet's discount arm named Swoop announced their flights today. YWG made their list with flights to YHM (Hamilton) which is acting as their eastern hub of sorts. Nothing too exciting unless you are looking for a flight to maybe catch a Bomber road game.
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Old Posted Feb 2, 2018, 2:41 AM
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Fellas, keep it down on the nexus cards will ya. They’ll only be good if they remain somewhat of a semi-secret.
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Old Posted Feb 2, 2018, 4:18 AM
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^ The Nexus lines in Winnipeg/Emerson don't mean much to me since the regular lines are rarely long, but being able to access the TSA Pre lines in US airports is a huge benefit... I'll have to look into that!
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Old Posted Feb 3, 2018, 7:08 AM
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The reason we got Nexus cards is for $10 (CDN) a year you get access to the TSA Pre security lines in US airports. If you travel through a large US airport once a year it quickly becomes worth it. Instead of waiting in long queues and fighting with your carry-on you basically walk right to the front of the line. It is actually a good bargain considering US citizens pay $17 (USD) a year for the same access.

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Separately, WestJet's discount arm named Swoop announced their flights today. YWG made their list with flights to YHM (Hamilton) which is acting as their eastern hub of sorts. Nothing too exciting unless you are looking for a flight to maybe catch a Bomber road game.
Yeah it's interesting that WJ centred all Swoop's operations around Hamilton. It's almost useless unless you live in the GTA.
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Old Posted Feb 5, 2018, 6:02 PM
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Swoop seems to be structured to heavily protect WestJet's core business. It also gives it a quick response mechanism if a new upstart ultra low cost carrier starts up.
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Old Posted Feb 5, 2018, 9:47 PM
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Swoop seems to be structured to heavily protect WestJet's core business. It also gives it a quick response mechanism if a new upstart ultra low cost carrier starts up.
Well Flair seems to be doing OK and Jetlines is coming soon, and will also be using Hamilton as it's main port, so there's definitely competition.

It'll be interesting to see how Jetlines vs. Swoop pans out as they both only offer flights to and from Hamilton.
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Old Posted Feb 6, 2018, 5:22 PM
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I know Flair/NewLeaf made plans to fly from Alberta to the Mesa Gateway (Phoenix secondary) airport last year. WestJet previously only flew to the main airport (SkyHarbour) but immediately responded with service to Gateway. They still run service to Gateway but only through Alberta best I can tell.

One of the advantages of Gateway is as a tiny airport, smaller than YWG, it is likely much easier to get slots that SkyHarbor with is significantly busier.

I expect WestJet to make similar aggressive moves to protect its market shares and that Swoop could be its new attack vector.
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Old Posted Feb 16, 2018, 12:28 AM
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All of this cold weather has me thinking.... Why doesn't YWG have year-round flights to sun destinations?
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Old Posted Feb 16, 2018, 12:35 AM
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All of this cold weather has me thinking.... Why doesn't YWG have year-round flights to sun destinations?
Demand for sun travel drops precipitously from Canada during the summer. The only exception I can think of might be Orlando, for obvious reasons.

Year round flights to sun destinations aren't justified and it is better to use capacity on domestic and intercontinental flights during the summer.
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Old Posted Feb 18, 2018, 2:52 PM
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All of this cold weather has me thinking.... Why doesn't YWG have year-round flights to sun destinations?
I'm sure demand is there for certain sun destinations, however there are particular challenges that YWG faces that other cities dont.

YQB for example, a similar sized city, has year round flights to VRA, CUN, CCC, SNU, PUJ and POP (mostly 1x or 2x weekly in the summer). Sunwing operates the bulk of these in summer. However, Sunwing needs to send a plane to YQB to operate these flights, and since YUL (a year round Sunwing operating base) is close by, a quick repositioning flight is not a big deal.

The cost of that repositioning flight needs to be factored in to the summer services provided. The business case might make sense from YQB, but might not from YWG.

These are the same kind of issues faced by TS or Rouge, if they were to operate summer sun destinations out of YWG.

Also, Sunwing loses over half it's fleet in the summer (which it leases from Europe during the winter season only). They operate year round sun destinations out of YUL, YQB, YYZ, YVR and YEG. That means the reduced fleet is spread thin during the summer, which doesn't help YWG's case.

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Old Posted Mar 12, 2018, 6:37 PM
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Norwegian Air plans to fly between Canada and Europe this summer. Discount airline plans to take off on July 23.

A longshot for YWG perhaps, but you never know.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/norw...ghts-1.4572198
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Old Posted Mar 12, 2018, 7:02 PM
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^ Norwegian is not really all that far fetched... Winnipeg may not be the most lucrative market for direct transatlantic flights, but Norwegian would have the market almost all to itself depending on service frequency.
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Old Posted Mar 12, 2018, 11:07 PM
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my airport friend said ANA reps was touring the airport ...wonder what’s up.
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Old Posted Mar 13, 2018, 12:59 AM
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Wow ANA? That seems a touch unlikely in terms of new routes. Haha well it is 2018 and anything is possible
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Old Posted Mar 13, 2018, 3:50 PM
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RE ANA - Wonder if it might have been a courtesy visit/follow up on a diversion here or perhaps looking at possible staging for future diversions if needed.

The other interesting piece of news that may have slipped by unnoticed is that WestJet CEO retired effective immediately last week and was replaced by another member of the executive team. That itself isn't noteworthy but the executive's past experience included being an executive with TUI. TUI is a large recreational travel company out of Europe. They, as much as legally allowed in Canada, controlled Signature before it merged with Sunwing and now have a similar position with Sunwing. Also the Sunwing seasonal aircraft leases are pulled from the TUI European fleet.

This might be the cracking open of a door that could lead to Sunwing and WestJet merging in the future with Sunwing perhaps taking the place of Swoop in the WestJet brand hierarchy.

It all might mean nothing but that WestJet's CEO stepped down very suddenly definitely caught industry watchers by surprise. Also TUI is far bigger that you would think on the surface if you start digging a little as it operates under lots of different brands you could come across that appear to be distinct, independent companies unless you look under the covers.
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Old Posted Mar 13, 2018, 3:58 PM
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RE ANA - Wonder if it might have been a courtesy visit/follow up on a diversion here or perhaps looking at possible staging for future diversions if needed.
Could have been anything, they might have been looking at how airlines here handle cold weather ops, might have been visiting a supplier, something to do with codeshares, who knows. But I wouldn't bet a dime on ANA starting service here anytime soon... their only route to Canada is to Vancouver, and it seems very unlikely that YWG would be on the list of additions at this point.
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Old Posted Mar 13, 2018, 8:07 PM
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Maybe ANA was here looking to expand their cargo routes?
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Old Posted Mar 14, 2018, 1:36 AM
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can’t remember if this was posted but side note.. did y’all know that there is bus service fr the Greyhound terminal to Grand Forks and Fargo .... Jefferson Line runs everyday except Monday’s. Leaves late fr Winnipeg gets in like 2am into Grand Forks and leaves Grand Forks at like 4pm gets in at 8pm ish... did not know this was going on for the last year. Cheapest ticket I saw was like 30buks I think.
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Old Posted Mar 14, 2018, 1:41 PM
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^ It was mentioned here when service resumed last year IIRC.
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Old Posted Mar 16, 2018, 10:01 PM
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I had a browse through Quebec City's airport not long ago. I was blown away. It's far more spacious, and the duty free shop blows ours out of the water, reminding me of the one in Vancouver International; that big and with that much of a selection and variation of products.

For an airport that sees about 70% less passenger traffic than we do on an annual basis, they sure did seem to get the better deal.
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