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Old Posted Dec 20, 2015, 7:23 PM
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Actually I would find the opposite of what you propose making just as much sense.. Lease to retailers, private offices that would find this building connected to one of the most secure, safe locations in the city.
sort of surprised that some of the smaller criminal law firms don't want to rent office space there. Make it a lot easier for the lawyers to come see their clients in the interview rooms as the new station.
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Old Posted Dec 20, 2015, 10:58 PM
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^ Excellent use for the vacated space.

If we want to go one step further and bring in the public sector, legal aid would do brisk business in this location as well. Centralize their downtown locations.
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I'm looking out my window and notice they have had an SUV parked with its lights on and orange cones laid out, at the SW corner. Anyone know whats going on? They were also a number of police vehicles on the street earlier. Maybe some type of move in festivities?
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Apparently some type of crane on the street.
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Winnipeg's next 'white elephant'?
By David Larkins, Winnipeg Sun

http://www.winnipegsun.com/2015/12/2...white-elephant

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The downtown PSB will go vacant next summer after the Winnipeg Police Service has fully moved into its new headquarters on Graham Avenue,

Should the old PSB be saved?

City councillors could move into PSB

Winnipeg city councillors are slated to temporarily move into the Public Safety Building.

Unless they don’t.

Mayor Brian Bowman wants the conversation taken to Winnipeggers.

Our mayor wants our input?
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Old Posted Dec 21, 2015, 7:15 PM
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^ Bowman should give us a list of options. Give us a list of the top 5 alternatives, present the costs and benefits of each.

Just asking what people want is pointless, unless you want to hear a bunch of people asking for a waterpark.
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There was a crane there about two weeks ago lifting stuff up on the roof. Maybe more stuff is being moved up there.
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Old Posted Dec 21, 2015, 8:04 PM
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^ Bowman should give us a list of options. Give us a list of the top 5 alternatives, present the costs and benefits of each.

Just asking what people want is pointless, unless you want to hear a bunch of people asking for a waterpark.
Agree. Seems like a logical solution, but is our new mayor up to the challenge?
I here talk of a lovely green space where people can sit on a bench and enjoy all the Exchange has to offer, where the people of Winnipeg could congregate for public events, meeting the caveat of public use to a tee...and saving tax $$ on refurbishment/renovation of the existing building.

Is the PSB's Brutalist architecture worth the tax $$ to save? The Urban Planner they interviewed had a very different idea.
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Agree. Seems like a logical solution, but is our new mayor up to the challenge?
I here talk of a lovely green space where people can sit on a bench and enjoy all the Exchange has to offer, where the people of Winnipeg could congregate for public events, meeting the caveat of public use to a tee...and saving tax $$ on refurbishment/renovation of the existing building.

Is the PSB's Brutalist architecture worth the tax $$ to save? The Urban Planner they interviewed had a very different idea.
Personally, I think it would be a mistake to demolish the PSB to create a green space or plaza in this area. A large building being used by actual people would contribute more to the vitality of the area than yet another underutilized open space. The PSB fits nicely with the overall aesthetic of the city hall / civic centre, so why not keep it, if a public use can be found?
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Old Posted Dec 21, 2015, 8:56 PM
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Personally, I think it would be a mistake to demolish the PSB to create a green space or plaza in this area. A large building being used by actual people would contribute more to the vitality of the area than yet another underutilized open space. The PSB fits nicely with the overall aesthetic of the city hall / civic centre, so why not keep it, if a public use can be found?
Agreed. We need to get over this obsession with adding more green spaces/public plazas. We have enough of those.

Within a few short steps of the PSB is Old Market Square, the Civic Centre plaza, the Steinkopf Gardens, the little plaza next to the Playhouse... am I missing any? How many plazas does this little corner of the Exchange District really need? It's not like we live in some oppressive urban jungle like Sao Paulo or Tokyo where we need to provide all these little places of respite to escape the endless concrete. Besides, you never see anyone using these squares for 2/3 of the year.
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Personally, I think it would be a mistake to demolish the PSB to create a green space or plaza in this area. A large building being used by actual people would contribute more to the vitality of the area than yet another underutilized open space. The PSB fits nicely with the overall aesthetic of the city hall / civic centre, so why not keep it, if a public use can be found?
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Agreed. We need to get over this obsession with adding more green spaces/public plazas. We have enough of those.

Within a few short steps of the PSB is Old Market Square, the Civic Centre plaza, the Steinkopf Gardens, the little plaza next to the Playhouse... am I missing any? How many plazas does this little corner of the Exchange District really need? It's not like we live in some oppressive urban jungle like Sao Paulo or Tokyo where we need to provide all these little places of respite to escape the endless concrete. Besides, you never see anyone using these squares for 2/3 of the year.
I absolutely agree with the green space, public plaza concept as a non-starter in this particular area contrary to the Urban Planners vision for the space. I feel it would actually be detrimental to the area.

Also not in favor of the renovation of this building. The parkade should come down tomorrow. Some may be in favor of preserving this structure for it's "architectural uniqueness", imho, I don't see it.
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I absolutely agree with the green space, public plaza concept as a non-starter in this particular area contrary to the Urban Planners vision for the space. I feel it would actually be detrimental to the area.

Also not in favor of the renovation of this building. The parkade should come down tomorrow. Some may be in favor of preserving this structure for it's "architectural uniqueness", imho, I don't see it.
Head scratcher on why it's still standing, does someone actually believe it can be rebuilt? Having that parkade standing empty, unsafe and unused says a lot about the state of this city.
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Head scratcher on why it's still standing, does someone actually believe it can be rebuilt? Having that parkade standing empty, unsafe and unused says a lot about the state of this city.
Actually, I understand that the basement garage is still used by the police. So, until they come up with a plan for the site the parkade will remain standing and shuttered because I doubt it could be demolished without getting rid of the still-functional and necessary garage.
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If you are being brought in for questioning you go in through the lower level of the parkade off of William Ave. And I am not sure if its still done but at one time the CSI people use to process vehicles in a secure section of the underground parkade for fingerprints etc.
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I absolutely agree with the green space, public plaza concept as a non-starter in this particular area contrary to the Urban Planners vision for the space. I feel it would actually be detrimental to the area.

Also not in favor of the renovation of this building. The parkade should come down tomorrow. Some may be in favor of preserving this structure for it's "architectural uniqueness", imho, I don't see it.
The plaza was a suggestion by a councilor not a planner. Totally agree that would be a disaster.
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I'm looking out my window and notice they have had an SUV parked with its lights on and orange cones laid out, at the SW corner. Anyone know whats going on? They were also a number of police vehicles on the street earlier. Maybe some type of move in festivities?
It looked like they were putting temporary concrete barriers between the building and the road. Maybe they have safety concerns about offices at street level without a barrier
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Old Posted Dec 22, 2015, 1:46 PM
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Its in the Dec 22 Free Press that barriers are required and the concrete "Jersey Barriers" being installed are just temporary until the sidewalks are repaired and a better looking system is installed .
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^^ "Better looking barriers" is likely going to be highly subjective. I would expect the permanent look is similar to what happened on Graham by MTS Centre.
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Old Posted Dec 22, 2015, 4:39 PM
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^^ "Better looking barriers" is likely going to be highly subjective. I would expect the permanent look is similar to what happened on Graham by MTS Centre.
I've seen a lot of these kinds of things in Europe... I'm not sure if they meet WPS specs (maybe they'd have to be bigger?), but I think something like this would look far better than the concrete bunkers by MTS Centre or by the Portage and Main concourse:

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Oh that's right, the barriers. I would think they will be bollards, and not a continuous wall all the way down.
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