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Old Posted Oct 25, 2012, 6:35 PM
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Id like to see a mix of the West Bank 3 and East Bank options. Instead of having to share a ROW with Metrolink(and possibly CHSR), have it run on Olympic next to Pesto's old stomping grounds (Wyvernwood), cross the river and turn north on Alameda to the Regional Connector?
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Metro, AEG agree to expand Pico Boulevard rail station for Farmers Field

Metro, AEG agree to expand Pico Boulevard rail station for Farmers Field

By Dakota Smith
10/25/2012
Los Angeles Daily News

"If built, Farmers Field would bring crowds of people to downtown Los Angeles, and it could significantly boost ridership at the light rail station across the street from the proposed 72,000-seat football stadium.

To accommodate those new riders, transit officials signed off Thursday on Anschutz Entertainment Group's plan to double the size of the 20-year-old Pico Boulevard station.

The deal was approved unanimously by the Metropolitan Transportation Authority Board. Supervisor Michael Antonovich abstained from voting..."

http://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_218...d-rail-station
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Metro, AEG agree to expand Pico Boulevard rail station for Farmers Field

By Dakota Smith
10/25/2012
Los Angeles Daily News

"If built, Farmers Field would bring crowds of people to downtown Los Angeles, and it could significantly boost ridership at the light rail station across the street from the proposed 72,000-seat football stadium.

To accommodate those new riders, transit officials signed off Thursday on Anschutz Entertainment Group's plan to double the size of the 20-year-old Pico Boulevard station.

The deal was approved unanimously by the Metropolitan Transportation Authority Board. Supervisor Michael Antonovich abstained from voting..."

http://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_218...d-rail-station
This station should've been underground, in my opinion.
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Old Posted Oct 26, 2012, 8:08 PM
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12th street should be closed to cars. It's not a very trafficked street like 11th, Olympic, Pico or Venice in downtown. Then the trains between Pico and 7th street would be 100% grade seperated.
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12th street should be closed to cars. It's not a very trafficked street like 11th, Olympic, Pico or Venice in downtown. Then the trains between Pico and 7th street would be 100% grade seperated.
Except of course for pedestrians.
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Old Posted Oct 27, 2012, 7:14 AM
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This station should've been underground, in my opinion.
Should have, but I think it's fine regardless. Now you can just step off the train and just walk a couple blocks straight to the stadium with no trouble at all. I dearly hope that LA Central gets funds once the Stadium is under way, because it's not right to be walking past Parking lots when on your way to the games. There needs to be retail on the way there. A mall would be perfect between the Pico station and LA Live/Farmers Field/Staples Center. Either LA Central gets a kickstart, or at least sells the land to someone willing to build.
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Old Posted Oct 27, 2012, 3:37 PM
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That Santa Ana plan is weird. Why not interline with the Green and Blue Lines to reach Downtown? The northern part of the corridor (i.e. rail 1 mile west of Blue) could be served by an improvement of Metrolink to S-Bahn standards. You don't want light-rail mixing with the mega-freights heading to the port anyway.
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That Santa Ana plan is weird. Why not interline with the Green and Blue Lines to reach Downtown? The northern part of the corridor (i.e. rail 1 mile west of Blue) could be served by an improvement of Metrolink to S-Bahn standards. You don't want light-rail mixing with the mega-freights heading to the port anyway.
My understanding is that SCAG proposed that the Santa Ana Line be built as either a feeder line or a spur of the Blue Line, but Metro shot the idea down. The Blue Line is already overcrowded, and would not be able to handle the additional passenger burden.

Also, the Expo/Blue line junction already has enough problems. Running a third line through there would reduce frequency of service on all three corridors and cause even more delay problems with the intersection.
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My understanding is that SCAG proposed that the Santa Ana Line be built as either a feeder line or a spur of the Blue Line, but Metro shot the idea down. The Blue Line is already overcrowded, and would not be able to handle the additional passenger burden.

Also, the Expo/Blue line junction already has enough problems. Running a third line through there would reduce frequency of service on all three corridors and cause even more delay problems with the intersection.
How about a new rail line that splits off of the Blue Line at 7th & Long Beach Blvd heading east on 7th street with stops at Cal State Long Beach and the VA hospital where it would merge into the 22 FW, the 5 and finally the 55 with stops at (or near) Disneyland, The Block, Main Place, South Coast Plaza and John Wayne Airport.
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Old Posted Oct 28, 2012, 7:27 AM
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The Santa Ana route could share that Green Line track then head north on Long Beach Blvd/Pacific Blvd, possibly helping to alleviate some of the Blue Line congestion. It would then have to head west on Vernon, then pick your street north to downtown. San Pedro Street perhaps?
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Old Posted Oct 28, 2012, 9:35 PM
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My understanding is that SCAG proposed that the Santa Ana Line be built as either a feeder line or a spur of the Blue Line, but Metro shot the idea down. The Blue Line is already overcrowded, and would not be able to handle the additional passenger burden.

Also, the Expo/Blue line junction already has enough problems. Running a third line through there would reduce frequency of service on all three corridors and cause even more delay problems with the intersection.

I think it is a capacity issue. You add the santa ana line to the blue line ROW at some point, and then you have three routes on one line into downtown. Three major routes. Metro does not want to do this much branching.

They want to serve the eastern part of downtown with the line also.
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Metro Board Wants to Get Rail to LAX By the End of Decade

Metro Board Wants to Get Rail to LAX By the End of Decade

Friday, October 26, 2012
By Neal Broverman
Curbed LA

"As LA's subway and light rail network starts to reach more points of interest, there's still that glaring omission: LAX. The Crenshaw Line, about to start construction next year, will get rail closer, but not directly to, the airport. Metro is studying ways to bridge that extra mile to the terminals and, according to The Source, board members at the transit agency are losing their patience with the timeline (and it's not the first time they've aired frustrations on the matter). Right now, a direct connection to the airport isn't scheduled to happen until 2023--and that's only if the Measure J transit tax passes. "Why? Because Metro can't begin its draft environmental study of the project until Los Angeles World Airports, a city agency, completes a specific plan amendment that would include transportation improvements," reports The Source. After hearing this, County Supervisor Don Knabe, who first asked if the connector could open by 2018, introduced and successfully passed a motion asking for a full report on what it would take to complete the project by 2020..."

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Average weekday ridership for LACMTA Metro Rail:

September 2012 -- 357,096
September 2011 -- 318,861

The Expo Line averaged 20,656 boardings last month. Let's see what effect the Lakers/Clippers/Kings? season has on ridership moving forward.
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Old Posted Oct 30, 2012, 5:15 AM
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Preliminary Regional Connector Work to Begin

Monday, October 29, 2012

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DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES - The Regional Connector won’t open until 2019, but Metro is set to start preliminary work in November on the 1.9-mile underground light rail link that will tunnel through Downtown.
Crews will be removing and realigning utilities including power, water, sewer, telephone and fiber optic lines to make way for future construction of the tunnel. The work will take place throughout the fall, six days a week.
Crews are slated to work along the route from 9 a.m.-3:30 p.m. on weekdays and from 8 a.m.-6 p.m. on Saturdays. Work may also take place during peak weekday periods up to 11 p.m. and on select Sundays, subject to city approval, Metro said in a statement.
Tunnel boring and station construction are not slated to begin until after Metro selects a contractor for the $1.3 billion project; that is expected soon.
The Regional Connector will include three underground stations, at Second and Hope streets, Second Street and Broadway and First Street and Central Avenue. When completed, the project will allow rail passengers to travel the Metro system with fewer transfers.
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I haven't read the whole thread, but what kind of pax-increases are expected from the DT connector? And what are the planned changes in service when it is done?
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Old Posted Oct 30, 2012, 4:06 PM
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Average weekday ridership for LACMTA Metro Rail:

September 2012 -- 357,096
September 2011 -- 318,861

The Expo Line averaged 20,656 boardings last month. Let's see what effect the Lakers/Clippers/Kings? season has on ridership moving forward.
If the USC football game I went to a couple weekends ago is any indicator... the Expo Line should get heavy use for these sporting events. We tried to park at the La Cienega station and it was completely full so we had to go to the La Brea station.
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Old Posted Oct 30, 2012, 5:22 PM
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Noticed yesterday when driving to LAX, light-rail construction has begun south of Olympic at Bundy.
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In an Entrenched Car Culture, Painting a Bolder Face on Mass Transit

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“Make metro cool.” That was Michael Lejeune’s task 10 years ago when he was hired as the first creative director of the Los Angeles County Metropolitan Transportation Authority. The brief was difficult, given this city’s deeply rooted car culture, but Mr. Lejeune, a native of Los Angeles, said he relished the task of making over the image of the third-largest mass-transit system in the United States.

- “Unless you had to take public transportation, the majority of people thought that’s not for me,” he said. With support from 20 internal writers, photographers and other creative hires, Mr. Lejeune, 49, began chipping away at the blind spot he perceived. One of his team’s early efforts was to shift how people spoke about the M.T.A. “The Metropolitan Transportation Authority. Authority? How friendly is that?” he quipped during the lecture. He ditched the verbiage in favor of a new tagline: “Metropolitan Transit Authority? Oh, please. Just say Go Metro.”

- Playful slogans are one thing; getting commuters to use the city’s rails and buses more often is another, and Mr. Lejeune claimed that the makeover had been effective. “After 18 months of advertising (the period after our new campaigns and increased exposure broke, nine years ago), discretionary ridership rose 8 percent,” Mr. Lejeune wrote in a follow-up e-mail. “At the time, that was double the national average increase. And we had not significantly added or changed our service over that period, so we do see the correlation between messaging and an increase in choice ridership,” he added. The mayor’s office, meanwhile, has noted that rail ridership has increased 38 percent since 2005.

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Pollution drop from building rail yard near L.A. harbor disputed

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Public health and environmental experts are disputing predictions that air pollution would be significantly reduced if a giant rail yard is built next to schools, parks and hundreds of homes in the Los Angeles harbor area.

- Rail and port officials say the $500-million yard — known as the Southern California International Gateway — would handle many of the big rigs that now must travel 20 miles north to drop off and pick up cargo containers at Burlington Northern's Hobart Yard, one of the largest facilities of its type in the nation. The project is widely supported by labor unions, business organizations, elected officials and regional planning agencies that cite the creation of hundreds of jobs and the need to accommodate port growth. Public health experts at USC, environmental advocates and officials at the South Coast Air Quality Management District, however, contend that the project's impact analysis overstates the air quality improvements.

- Critics assert that the proposed gateway would still create substantial air pollution in adjacent west Long Beach, a largely minority and low-income community with high rates of asthma and respiratory illness related to emissions from various port operations. For example, at Elizabeth Hudson K-8 School near the project site, about 250 of 1,100 students have asthma. "Hobart Yard won't be empty," said Andrea Hricko, a professor of preventive medicine at USC, citing data from the project's environmental analysis. "BNSF has plans for Hobart even if the Southern California International Gateway is built. By 2035, there will be almost twice as many trucks on the 710 as there were in 2010. The air will not be cleaner." Rail and port officials counter that building the new yard — already eight years in development — would be better than not doing anything.

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Old Posted Nov 3, 2012, 10:36 PM
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Can someone please explain to me, and I am obviously completely in the dark about this, what is it that is inflating the cost of transit construction in the US to the unimaginable levels that it has reached?

I just learned that LA citizens pay on average $25/year for measure R and while that is great and I wish it was even higher (hopefully measure J will pass), that is 10 million people in LA county times $25 = 250 million dollars a year that can barely pay for 2 light rail lines per decade. The California high speed rail project will cost $50 billion!! FIFTY! The second avenue subway line in NYC will cost 5 billion, what is happening here? In Japan and Europe they are paying at least 3 times less, if not more. I read that upgrading the Northeast corridor to high-speed rail will cost more than Japan's MAGLEV line connecting Tokyo and Osaka.

Do other countries have subsidized transit construction? Is the problem unions? What's happening? I can't imagine if the NYC subway system was to be built from scratch today it would probably cost as much as the city's annual GDP. So the issue seems to be not lack of money but exorbitant cost.
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I'm sometimes starting to wonder if cheaper labor laws should be brought back (just when building infrastructure). Sure it isnt much for workers, but ANYTHING in this economy helps than being unemployed. Besides, maybe it would dramatically reduce project costs.
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