[St. John's] The Steel-Toe Boot Squad - Page 7

Copes · #**121** Posted **Feb 13, 2013, 1:05 AM**

It really was a success. I didn't want to be interviewed, but let me clarify, Signal / Jeddy didn't JUST get interviewed by CBC. They were hit by VOCM, CBC, The Telegram AND NTV. All three of us stood up and spoke in favor, as Signal said, which sort of turned the tide from an anti-development meeting to a pro-development meeting. Without us there would have been 2 For and 4 against. Instead they got 5 for and 4 against. Now imagine if 5 of us had gone. 7 of us. All of us.

It will be interesting to see what headlines are tomorrow. Based on how fast the guys got pulled aside for interviews, I'm willing to bet it won't be the regular "residents against new development" headline.

In closing, I want to say that the Beta run of the Steel-Toe Boot Brigade was an overwhelming success, and I really hope more make it out to the next proposal. There is no doubt in my mind we can make a world of difference.

christopher_chafe · #**122** Posted **Feb 13, 2013, 1:06 AM**

I would have loved to have been there just to see the look on certain faces when the 3 of ye stood up for this proposal.

I bet "Walter Harding" nearly had a heart attack.

Marty_Mcfly · #**123** Posted **Feb 13, 2013, 1:13 AM**

I wonder what proposal will be next....hmm.

christopher_chafe · #**124** Posted **Feb 13, 2013, 1:20 AM**

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Originally Posted by Marty_Mcfly

I wonder what proposal will be next....hmm.

I would say the next one will be mid march(ish) with a public consult for end march mid april.

SignalHillHiker · #**125** Posted **Feb 13, 2013, 1:20 AM**

BTW Jeddy and Copes...

This would've been tomorrow's story without us. Because this guy LITERALLY was there:

christopher_chafe · #**126** Posted **Feb 13, 2013, 1:21 AM**

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Originally Posted by SignalHillHiker

BTW Jeddy and Copes...

This would've been tomorrow's story without us. Because this guy LITERALLY was there:

A big congrats go out to the 3 of ye!!!!!!!!!

jeddy1989 · #**127** Posted **Feb 13, 2013, 1:22 AM**

that was amazing! I LOVED it!! .. you know you are starting to make a difference when you finish saying what you wanted to say and someone yells BRAVO!

christopher_chafe · #**128** Posted **Feb 13, 2013, 1:24 AM**

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Originally Posted by jeddy1989

that was amazing! I LOVED it!! .. you know you are starting to make a difference when you finish saying what you wanted to say and someone yells BRAVO!

you sure you didnt pay that individual LOL only joking

Architype · #**129** Posted **Feb 13, 2013, 1:24 AM**

Again, congrats guys, I will look forward to seeing the interviews.

Copes · #**130** Posted **Feb 13, 2013, 1:33 AM**

I just hope we can get more of us out for the next one. A combined effort really could help to change the tide in the city. For anyone who might be a little unsure, we'll be having another forum meet and greet soon. Come have a beer with us and we can all hash it out!

Marty_Mcfly · #**131** Posted **Feb 13, 2013, 1:33 AM**

jeddy I want to hear EVERYTHING you said

SignalHillHiker · #**132** Posted **Feb 13, 2013, 1:34 AM**

It'd be nice if they air the whole thing - they started filming him pretty quickly as soon as he went up. But he nailed every point in the right order.

Even brought up what European cities like Paris, Oslo, etc. have done. It was just great!

statbass · #**133** Posted **Feb 13, 2013, 1:38 AM**

Great job, guys. Way to do it!

christopher_chafe · #**134** Posted **Feb 13, 2013, 1:59 AM**

Aside from what Jeddy and Signal and Copes have said.....this comment really sums up the whole "heritage issue" for the west end of DT:

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"Mr. A White says if you are concerned with heritage, you should have spoken up before the Delta"

Source: http://twitter.yfrog.com/ocupoxuoj#1mXWSIRAzt0dCLya.99

Copes · #**135** Posted **Feb 13, 2013, 2:08 AM**

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Originally Posted by christopher_chafe

Aside from what Jeddy and Signal and Copes have said.....this comment really sums up the whole "heritage issue" for the west end of DT:

Source: http://twitter.yfrog.com/ocupoxuoj#1mXWSIRAzt0dCLya.99

Haha I clapped when he said that.

Marty_Mcfly · #**136** Posted **Feb 13, 2013, 2:11 AM**

Very true. The heritage value of that neighborhood of downtown is close to zero. Even pre-Delta there was nothing there that would be worth preserving. Eventually that neighborhood would have had to be bulldozed anyway, it would be an absolute embarrassment for any first-world city to have within its limits.

jeddy1989 · #**137** Posted **Feb 13, 2013, 2:30 AM**

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SignalHillHiker · #**138** Posted **Feb 13, 2013, 10:12 AM**

Our first one...

http://www.vocm.com/newsarticle.asp?...30929&latest=1

...There was a mixed bag of reaction - some for and some against. Proponents are confident that the structure would blend in with other big buildings in the area like the Delta Hotel and the Fortis building.

One resident said that the city was "chipping away at heritage regulations that are put in place to limit high buildings" while another said it is a "hodge-podge approach to zoning." But not everyone saw it that way, with several people strongly for development in the west end of downtown rather than the east end...

Awesome start.

jeddy1989 · #**139** Posted **Feb 13, 2013, 11:39 AM**

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Originally Posted by SignalHillHiker

Our first one...

http://www.vocm.com/newsarticle.asp?...30929&latest=1

...There was a mixed bag of reaction - some for and some against. Proponents are confident that the structure would blend in with other big buildings in the area like the Delta Hotel and the Fortis building.

One resident said that the city was "chipping away at heritage regulations that are put in place to limit high buildings" while another said it is a "hodge-podge approach to zoning." But not everyone saw it that way, with several people strongly for development in the west end of downtown rather than the east end...

Awesome start.

and our revolution begins

imagine if we were not there! Guys we can really make a difference!

jeddy1989 · #**140** Posted **Feb 13, 2013, 12:05 PM**

Here's Signal!

Lukewarm response for high-rise hotel proposal

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A proposed hotel for downtown St. John's met with both applause and skepticism at a public hearing on Tuesday night, as details were presented on the proposed 12-storey Hilton Garden Inn.

Ryan Crocker: 'If we want to preserve all of our heritage that exists east of Waldegrave Street, then we need to let development happen somewhere.'
About 30 people attended a hearing at St. John's City Hall on the hotel, which has not yet been fully evaluated by city staff nor put to council for a vote.

The Hilton is planned for the corner of New Gower Street and Springdale Street, and would be built west of the existing Delta Hotel and conference centre. The lot is currently vacant.

The 10 residents who spoke had a variety of opinions, from a poor reaction to the height to support for developing a barren patch of land.

Resident Ryan Crocker said he'd like to see the plan go ahead, in part to shift development away from the nearby heritage zone in the downtown, where height restrictions are much more severe.

"I think we need to expand our downtown. St. John's is a growing city," Crocker said.

"If we want to preserve all of our heritage that exists east of Waldegrave Street, then we need to let development happen somewhere. So west of Waldegrave is the proper place for it. There are a lot of decrepit lots," he said.

Architect Ron Fougere was pleased with what he heard from the public forum.

"Every time we have a public hearing, we're looking for views and how people feel about the design and how they feel about the ideas we have," he said.

"We thought we got some pretty good support tonight, it's nice to see," said Fougere.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfou...aring-213.html