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Old Posted Nov 16, 2010, 9:59 PM
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Yes STR, that is more like what I was anticipating for the base..

It sure will be nice when this "Oil Refinery-like" portion of the tower is clad with that prismatic glass.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 16, 2010, 10:05 PM
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Yeah, the official renders just show giant holes in the facade. Literally, glass stops, the floor is open to the world. Which...is nothing I've ever seen on a building. I can see practical problems with random objects (like birds) even at that height. Plus, it just seems like an unnecessary safety hazard when someone has to go in and check the exhausts/intakes/whatever is up there.
The vents on the mechanical floors near the top of the tower are done just like the base, stainless steel grating behind the glass but wider spacing on the glass panels. (The grating keeps the birds out.)

There is a louver wall about 4 feet behind the curtain wall/ cladding so it would be imposable for someone to actually fall through the vent openings in the exterior cladding, if they could even get to them. There are all kinds of plenums conectiong to the louver wall.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 16, 2010, 10:13 PM
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Is there some sheet on the new glass or are they just installing every other piece currently? Guess it's just me (or maybe the camera), but the pieces don't seem to match. Hope someone here will get some clear shots up today
it looks more like they are doing every other panel, look at this picture and you will see like a "placeholder: similar in size to the piece of glass next to it (near the elevator)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/5473458...n/photostream/

     
     
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Old Posted Nov 16, 2010, 10:44 PM
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Will construction speed up as the building gets higher? The floor area's getting smaller as it goes up, so wouldn't it make sense that it only gets faster?
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Old Posted Nov 16, 2010, 10:56 PM
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it gets annoying when people repeat the same questions
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 16, 2010, 11:19 PM
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One more, since everyone liked the first two so much.



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The vents on the mechanical floors near the top of the tower are done just like the base, stainless steel grating behind the glass but wider spacing on the glass panels. (The grating keeps the birds out.)

There is a louver wall about 4 feet behind the curtain wall/ cladding so it would be imposable for someone to actually fall through the vent openings in the exterior cladding, if they could even get to them. There are all kinds of plenums conectiong to the louver wall.
I think I get what you're saying. Let me punch a few more holes after class.
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Old Posted Nov 16, 2010, 11:24 PM
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it gets annoying when people repeat the same questions
It gets annoying when people get frustrated at people that ask the same questions.



Some people are just joining this thread in progress. We should all have some sympathy... Would you really want to read over every comment in 500 or more pages?
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 17, 2010, 12:53 AM
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Some people are just joining this thread in progress. We should all have some sympathy... Would you really want to read over every comment in 500 or more pages?
Thank you! A little kindness makes the world go round, right?! So anyone know the answer?
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Old Posted Nov 17, 2010, 1:14 AM
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Keep in mind that it's getting taller (longer to transport goods up) and colder (winter in NYC = snow and wind) but with the smaller floorplates from here up, I would guess that the progress will remain the same.
     
     
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Keep in mind that it's getting taller (longer to transport goods up) and colder (winter in NYC = snow and wind) but with the smaller floorplates from here up, I would guess that the progress will remain the same.
footprints dont get really smaller. It goes from a octagon to a square to a octagon to a square. The floor plate does shrink some as it rises, but not enough to make a big difference
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footprints dont get really smaller. It goes from a octagon to a square to a octagon to a square. The floor plate does shrink some as it rises, but not enough to make a big difference

Actually, it does get smaller. From the first floor above the base, it starts as a square. At the midway point, it will be an octagon with the widest point being the length of the original square. At the top, it will finish a square with the diagonal being the length of the original square. Knowing this, the floorplate will actually be half the original:

     
     
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Old Posted Nov 17, 2010, 2:08 AM
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So...when I'm done here, who wants a big-ass 3000 or 4000 pixel high/wide render? If so, from where?
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Old Posted Nov 17, 2010, 2:27 AM
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So...when I'm done here, who wants a big-ass 3000 or 4000 pixel high/wide render? If so, from where?
looking up at the towers sounds good for me. If you ever get a chance you should finish the original model. It was one of a kind
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Old Posted Nov 17, 2010, 6:14 AM
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^^^^ Looking at it from the top, at an angle. Not a sharp angle, more of an obtuse... if you get my description.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 17, 2010, 6:36 AM
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^I went with Mr. Lions idea. Shooting on Greenwich St, across the street from DB site. It looks like it will take an hour and ten minutes to finish up. Not that yours was a bad idea, but he posted before you did.

EDIT: Hour and fourteen minutes. Won't be doing many of these, so enjoy.
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^^^ oh wow if thats what its gonna look like its gonna be more iconic than i thought
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 17, 2010, 2:24 PM
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^I went with Mr. Lions idea. Shooting on Greenwich St, across the street from DB site. It looks like it will take an hour and ten minutes to finish up. Not that yours was a bad idea, but he posted before you did.

EDIT: Hour and fourteen minutes. Won't be doing many of these, so enjoy.
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Old Posted Nov 17, 2010, 2:32 PM
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^ The spire really brings the tower out.


Looking at more cladding, maybe in a day or so, the entire floor will be complete...





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Old Posted Nov 17, 2010, 3:08 PM
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^ The spire really brings the tower out.


Looking at more cladding, maybe in a day or so, the entire floor will be complete...

Hate to sound stupid....but in this photo it looks like they go every other piece. Why do they do this?? I figured it would be one solid piece after another.
     
     
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I can't wait until March to see this bad boy. It is going to be completely different than August when I was there last.
     
     
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