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Originally Posted by simms3_redux
Quantum, you're having a Miami orgasm. I understand why, but let's rationally discuss PJ3000's debates.
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OH, JESUS! PLEASE! A lot more is going to have to come out of the ground before I come anywhere near having orgasms over the Miami skyline.
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Originally Posted by pj3000
Companies that would bring and develop a diverse workforce to Miami are not going to establish or relocate because condo towers, retail developments, and entertainment venues have been built at record pace. And guess what? They're not. Will they in the future? Maybe, and I hope they will, because I have a vested interest in Miami.
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PJ3000 this is what I was saying. I certainly wouldn't call it a major city now. Back when we were talking about airports, you said anything in New York is more centrally located than anything in Miami. And I said that spoke volumes about where you're really coming. You asked me what I meant and I didn't want to get into it with you then, but to me, it just said there was no point in arguing with you about any of this because you'll just hold on to your point of view no matter what and cherry pick the arguments to back it up. Some people will make themselves right no matter what. What you said indicated bias whether you think you were being facetious or not. That's why I haven't been back here, but I came back to catch some of the response to this Genting proposal. I'm quite busy on a another skyscraper website, and there really isn't the time for this.
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Originally Posted by Prahaboheme
Love the vision, like so many other grand ideas that ultimately did not see the light of day.
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I think this is different though because of the developer behind it.
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Originally Posted by pj3000
I think we need to read what the announcement actually stated:
The site will likely include somewhere between six and eight towers. Under current zoning, each can be up to 700 feet tall, but Fort-Brescia says they will be built at a variety of different heights.
That's a lot different than saying "6 to 8 towers, up to 700 feet tall each", as the above post stated
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Well, here is what I read from the Thursday 09/15/2011 edition of the Miami Herald. I have it right here in front of me.
"At each four corners, overlooking the lagoon, would stand 65-story hotel towers whose irregular, biopmorphic shapes are taken from coral formations and the sea life that inhabits them."
So 650 feet maybe?
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Originally Posted by Private Dick
Really? From what a South Florida real estate broker friend of mine tells me, the vast majority of the new wave of foreign buyers are buying them as second homes and as investment properties, and not renting out. Most of the condos-turned rentals are being rented out by management companies for the developers and original owners to recoup some revenue lost over the past few years, since many of them were purchased as investment properties to begin with.
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Whatever you want to believe. All of Miami's towers are very well lit at night now, and I have the pictures to prove it.
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Originally Posted by Private Dick
Could it look any cheesier? I think Arquitectonica should hang it up.
It might end up looking cool in real life, but in these pictures - I totally hate it.
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Actually, when I first saw it, I thought it looked gaudy as all hell and more like something that would fit better in Dubai than in Miami, but when I read that the buildings were to be taken for giant coral formations, being a scuba diver myself, I suddenly saw that and thought "Now that makes the project very Miami" and something a little new and different in architecture. Hopefully, it will turn out looking better than the renderings. From my experience, buildings usually do.
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Originally Posted by skyscraperfan23
Miami is a mixture of chicago and las vegas.
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Originally Posted by Private Dick
Yeah... right. Keep trying to convince yourself of the Chicago portion of that statement.
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Actually, the way Miami stands on its waterfront does remind me a lot of Chicago, and we have a river of its namesake running through the middle of downtown, and Miami even has an Edgewater district like Chicago, and it will certainly look more like Chicago in the future than any other American city.
Anyway, Private Dick, pj3000, prahaboheme, whomever... believe what you want to believe. I'm too busy on another website to be concerned with it where I'm moderator of the Miami forum, moderator of the Florida forum, and where I also happen to be a North American moderator. I didn't ask to be a moderator, I was chosen out of the Miami forum because of my "ability to conduct myself in an unbiased and respectable manner." So that is who I am. And now, if you'll excuse me, I have work to do on another website.